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If Carlos Condit loses to GSP, will he still be referred to as a former champion?

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He'll be a former interim champ' date=' no matter what you think of him he did hold the interim title. With that said I think he's going to beat beat GSP, then all these annoying Condit haters will turn into Condit fanboys, thats what sheep do.[/quote']

 

I don't like GSP either, but I could see Carlos beating him because of how long GSP has been out + we don't know if he will be the same GSP after the knee problem. We all saw how much getting knocked out changed GSP, so I imagine a knee injury could be even more traumatic.

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He'll be a former interim champ' date=' no matter what you think of him he did hold the interim title. With that said I think he's going to beat beat GSP, then all these annoying Condit haters will turn into Condit fanboys, thats what sheep do.[/quote']

 

No instead they will go with one of the following excuses:

 

A.) GSP had ring rust

 

B.) GSP was injured

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Sorry buddy shogun pride grand prix champion and ufc lhw champ

 

Carlos is the fake champ ' date=' he wont even have it anyways after november[/quote']

 

And he still got his ****ing *** beat by Hendo.

 

Condit will finish GSP who is the fake champ (has to grease and use roids like SloBum).

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Lmao' date=' what is Diaz's ratio against 'real competition'? Because I count 0/6[/quote']

I would consider Paul Daley, Frank Shamrock, Scott Smith, Sakurai, Tibau, Neer, Fickett, and Robbie Lawlor all 'real competiton' that he finished (and possibly Santos, but I think he's overrated and his sister is tougher).

 

For Carlos, I would consider his wins over Trigg, Hardy, and Ellenberger his only 'real competition' finishes.

 

Besides, what's your point? Nobody was claiming that Diaz was a great finisher like all these Condit ****s do.

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If so that's kind of weak because:

 

A) He never would have won a title without GSP being injured.

 

B) He never defended said fake title.

 

Does anyone know if interim champs are still referred to as a former champion?

 

Big Nog is referred to as a "Former UFC Heavyweight Champion" and I believe Shane Carwin has been referenced as that as well. So my assumption is, despite having not defeated the linage champion, becoming an Interim Title holder does in the eyes of the UFC qualify you as a former champion. Now, will the MMA community at large accept this? Who's to say, but I doubt most people would make a stickling point about it if on a Countdown Show he's described as being a former champion - at least I've not seen it become a big issue to date.

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I would consider Paul Daley' date=' Frank Shamrock, Scott Smith, Sakurai, Tibau, Neer, Fickett, and Robbie Lawlor[/b'] all 'real competiton' that he finished (and possibly Santos, but I think he's overrated and his sister is tougher).

 

For Carlos, I would consider his wins over Trigg, Hardy, and Ellenberger his only 'real competition' finishes.

 

Besides, what's your point? Nobody was claiming that Diaz was a great finisher like all these Condit ****s do.

 

lmfao.

 

all UFC cuts and 2nd rate cans.

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Big Nog

Frank Mir

GSP

Shane Carwin

Randy Couture

 

All Notable Interim Champions

 

yes

 

Carlos Condit will go down in history with them

 

but more importantly with Couture and GSP as the only interim title holders to fight and win for the Undisputed Belt

 

GSP over Serra

 

Couture over Ortiz

 

and it will be Condit over GSP

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lmfao.

 

all UFC cuts and 2nd rate cans.

compared to Condit's finish list, which is a who's who of MMA I suppose.......:rolleyes:

Say all you want, Frank Shamrock was truly a great fighter that Diaz finished.

 

And again, none of us Diaz fans are claiming he's the world's greatest finisher like you Condit dopes are. If he finishes more than 1 relevant fighter, then maybe you can make this claim.

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compared to Condit's finish list' date=' which is a who's who of MMA I suppose.......:rolleyes:

Say all you want, Frank Shamrock was truly a great fighter that Diaz finished.

 

And again, [b']none of us Diaz fans are claiming he's the world's greatest finisher[/b] like you Condit dopes are. If he finishes more than 1 relevant fighter, then maybe you can make this claim.

 

because he's not.

 

1 dimensional can. 7-5 in the UFC against the likes of Drew Fickett and Koji Oishi

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compared to Condit's finish list' date=' which is a who's who of MMA I suppose.......:rolleyes:

Say all you want, Frank Shamrock was truly a great fighter that Diaz finished.

 

And again, none of us Diaz fans are claiming he's the world's greatest finisher like you Condit dopes are. If he finishes more than 1 relevant fighter, then maybe you can make this claim.[/quote']

 

Frank Shamrock 'was' a great fighter. He was a shell of himself after Cung did work on him.

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Frank Shamrock 'was' a great fighter. He was a shell of himself after Cung did work on him.

So since Diaz was the only one he fought after Cung, you're saying that he was a great fighter right up until he fought Diaz, then suddenly he became a can? Yeah right. He was still a great fighter - Diaz just made him look like he wasn't.

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In all honesty Gentlemen, can we not agree that Frank's best days where far behind him by the time he stepped foot into Strikeforce? He was a legend, and absolutely one of the best fighters in the early stages of MMA development, but he was more or less retired for half a decade - and even once he came back only fought but once a year. Legend he may be, talented fighter he was, but every SF event he headlined was done more in mooching off the name he and his adopted brother had established long ago and less to do with actually being a top talent.

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In all honesty Gentlemen' date=' can we not agree that Frank's best days where far behind him by the time he stepped foot into Strikeforce? He was a legend, and absolutely one of the best fighters in the early stages of MMA development, but he was more or less retired for half a decade - and even once he came back only fought but once a year. Legend he may be, talented fighter he was, but every SF event he headlined was done more in mooching off the name he and his adopted brother had established long ago and less to do with actually being a top talent.[/quote']

 

/winner

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In all honesty Gentlemen' date=' can we not agree that Frank's best days where far behind him by the time he stepped foot into Strikeforce? He was a legend, and absolutely one of the best fighters in the early stages of MMA development, but he was more or less retired for half a decade - and even once he came back only fought but once a year. Legend he may be, talented fighter he was, but every SF event he headlined was done more in mooching off the name he and his adopted brother had established long ago and less to do with actually being a top talent.[/quote']

Was he as good as he was when he was in his mid-20's? Of course not; how many fighters are? But he was still a great fighter. He completely dominated and embarrassed Baroni, and was putting on one helluva fight against Cung Le until his arm broke. Not suggesting that he was a top-5 guy at the time or anything, but he was still a good fighter when Diaz fought him.

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