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Actually if you read the article in it's entirety, it's estimated that total loss to the local economy was $40 million, the revenue loss to the UFC was estimated at $20 million. Still a hard blow to the company who has seen some recent stalling in their expansion mission, but not quite as staggering as depicted.

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UFCs Fault = 75%

Jon Jones Fault = 20%

Dan Hendersons Fault = 5%

 

No wonder i hate Dana for putting on such a blatantly terrible trash heap of a ppv.

Close, but I would put Hendo at 4%, and 1% to the other LHW's who didn't jump at the chance to fight him.

 

The loss isn't a big deal to the UFC, or the community. But it is a huge loss to the guys on the prelims/undercard.

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dan hendersons fault: 0%

 

he tried to train through an injury unlike so many other wimps including Jones who couldn't fight rashad because of a hurt finger that didn't even need surgery.

 

Hendo was the reason for the whole debacle in the first place, 5% blame is fair.

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Close' date=' but I would put Hendo at 4%, and 1% to the other LHW's who didn't jump at the chance to fight him.

 

The loss isn't a big deal to the UFC, or the community. But it is a huge loss to the guys on the prelims/undercard.[/quote']

 

The UFC is going to compensate the undercard fighters that don't get a fight right away.

 

Hendo was the reason for the whole debacle in the first place' date=' 5% blame is fair.[/quote']

 

It's tough to blame a guy for trying to fight through an injury. Look at what is happening now, he probably lost his immediate title shot and a couple million dollar pay day.

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I don't think the local economy was hit as bad as projected. Without knowing how many people who had booked flights and hotels cancelled, it would be only a guess. I would think that most of those people would have gone to Vegas anyway as a lot of bookings these days are non refundable to guarantee lower rates. Also it was Labor Day weekend, so the city would have been packed anyway... But it sucks for all those people who booked specifically for the fights for sure!!

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Twasn't Jones fault.

 

sure it was

 

he was offered a replacement fight, with a guy whos overweight out of shape and hasnt even trained, for the sake of saving the card and the paychecks of all of the fighters, and he turned it down

 

just how is that not his fault? he was offered an easy fight and he ducked it and ruined it for everybody else.

 

yeah the ufc can be partly to blame for putting together a card thats primary source of revenue is just one fight, but still jon jones is just as equally to blame for not giving his balls a tug. sponsored by his own company but wont even save their card. thats not very responsible. then again neither is getting drunk and smashing your car into telephone poles.

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sure it was

 

he was offered a replacement fight' date=' with a guy whos overweight out of shape and hasnt even trained, for the sake of saving the card and the paychecks of all of the fighters, and he turned it down

 

just how is that not his fault? he was offered an easy fight and he ducked it and ruined it for everybody else.[/quote']

 

You're late to the blind hate for Jones bandwagon, those threads are at page 14 by now. Not taking the fight with Sonnen has NOTHING to do with the fact that no other LHW stepped up and the UFC put together, what I considered a decent card, others considered a trash card. Either way I think we can all agree the card may not have been PPV worthy. Jones receives some of the blame but not for the reasons you mention.

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dan hendersons fault: 0%

 

he tried to train through an injury unlike so many other wimps including Jones who couldn't fight rashad because of a hurt finger that didn't even need surgery.

 

This is alot more Dan Henderson's fault than anyone else's he should have at least given a heads up the 2 and a half weeks ahead of time he knew he was injured, and why do you think his knee is injured in the first place? Its because the damn commission lets these old farts use TRT so they can train harder than their bones, tendons, ligaments, and other soft tissue can handle. So you can blame the commission as well. Dana White can also blame himself for about 20%, but I don't feel like writing a book here, and I really like Dana so I want this situation to pass because I like everyone involved (except the commission). I was upset because I didn't want my two favorite light heavies to fight each other. Dan Henderson cannot get off without any blame though, even he knows that. He may have even waited so long to heighten the chances of his buddy Chael getting the shot because everyone knows even Dana that he is the only crazy bastard to take the fight with no training camp at all. Just a weight cut.

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This is alot more Dan Henderson's fault than anyone else's he should have at least given a heads up the 2 and a half weeks ahead of time he knew he was injured' date=' and why do you think his knee is injured in the first place? Its because the damn commission lets these old farts use TRT so they can train harder than their bones, tendons, ligaments, and other soft tissue can handle. So you can blame the commission as well. Dana White can also blame himself for about 20%, but I don't feel like writing a book here, and I really like Dana so I want this situation to pass because I like everyone involved (except the commission). I was upset because I didn't want my two favorite light heavies to fight each other. Dan Henderson cannot get off without any blame though, even he knows that. He may have even waited so long to heighten the chances of his buddy Chael getting the shot because everyone knows even Dana that he is the only crazy bastard to take the fight with no training camp at all. Just a weight cut.[/quote']

 

lol you really think Dan knew for sure he couldn't fight 2 weeks before the fight was called off? Come on.... He tried to train through it and decided it was to much, no shame in that.

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I'd say it's 100% the UFC's fault. No one should be paying for cards with a single decent fight on it. They should be trying to stack every card, it doesn't always happen but that card was sad.

 

Fighting with 3 days notice shouldn't even be allowed honestly, there's a reason fighters train for months. Not to mention Chael didn't even remotely deserve ANOTHER title shot regardless of circumstance. The UFC is trying to use JBJ as a scapegoat for many poor decisions in general.

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lol you really think Dan knew for sure he couldn't fight 2 weeks before the fight was called off? Come on.... He tried to train through it and decided it was to much' date=' no shame in that.[/quote']

 

he should have given someone a heads up its the professional way to do it, when you try to work through it more injury occur, and cannot pump up the TRT

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he should have given someone a heads up its the professional way to do it' date=' when you try to work through it more injury occur, and cannot pump up the TRT[/quote']

 

It's not the first time Henderson has fought with an injury. He's said multiple times that he felt he'd be ok to fight. Tons of fighters fight through injury for a paycheck that doesn't come that often. This is the first fight in his career, (since Before Christ was born) that he's had to cancel.

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+1

 

You can't blame someone for getting injured' date=' unfortunately it's just part of the game when these guys train that hard everyday.[/quote']

 

No, but you can blame a fighter that gets injured 3 weeks before his main event fight. And only tells dana 5 days before the fight.

 

Had dana knew that hendo was injured, he would have had enough time to prepare for the worst.

 

Its the ufc, hendo, and jonex fault that the card got scratched.

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Actually if you read the article in it's entirety' date=' it's estimated that total loss to the local economy was $40 million, the revenue loss to the UFC was estimated at $20 million. Still a hard blow to the company who has seen some recent stalling in their expansion mission, but not quite as staggering as depicted.[/quote']

 

At least someone here can read hah.

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No' date=' but you can blame them for not bringing the injury to the attention of your employer until it's too late.[/quote']

 

Dan Henderson has been injured in camps before, and he's fought with nagging pains plenty throughout his career. This is the first time, in his entire career that spans over 15 years that he has pulled out from a fight due to injury. Sorry, but over a decade of fighting through pain has earned him the respect and acknowledgement that this was an extenuating circumstance. He didn't even know the full extent of the injury, in fact, he was still training, but taking it easy hoping it was not a serious injury that required surgery.

 

I can tell you right now, Dana White and the rest of Zuffa aren't interested in hearing about every bump and bruise these guys get in training camps. They want to know about injuries that are going to keep them off the cards - once Hendo knew his injury was going to preclude him from fighting, he informed Dana.

 

Sorry, but you will never convince me that Hendo is even remotely to blame for this. He has made a career out of fighting with nagging pains, and if ONE TIME in his entire career he has to be pulled from a fight due to requiring surgery, I think the least we could do as fans is respect this is a single blemish on an otherwise sterling reputation of "toughing it out" that few other fighters in this business will ever be able to amass.

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its 100% UFC / Dana fault ... 0% to fighters! ... and they should stop crying over a few million $ ... when they make hundreds of millions and are a billion $ company.

 

Its 100% not Jon Jones fault' date=' not his fault his opponent got injured and the rest of the card was pathetic. Dana deserved this.[/quote']

 

multi-account much. lol

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dan hendersons fault: 0%

 

he tried to train through an injury unlike so many other wimps including Jones who couldn't fight rashad because of a hurt finger that didn't even need surgery.

 

Dan plays a big part in this. Nobody is saying he's a wimp or anything but you have to pull the trigger a lot quicker on whether you are in or out. And Dan and Chael were definitely in cahoots. There is no doubt in my mind that Chael knew Dan would pull out and that he was training for Jones way in advance. I think it was around the time the **** talking on twitter started. Most of the blame lies with Dana and Joe Silva. Fighters are going to look out for themselves and their families. It's Dana and Silva's job to look out for the fans and make sure the cards are stacked with great fights. A lot of people hate Jones and love Hendo, so they don't want to imagine that maybe Dan made a bad call.

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Dan plays a big part in this. Nobody is saying he's a wimp or anything but you have to pull the trigger a lot quicker on whether you are in or out. And Dan and Chael were definitely in cahoots. There is no doubt in my mind that Chael knew Dan would pull out and that he was training for Jones way in advance. I think it was around the time the **** talking on twitter started. Most of the blame lies with Dana and Joe Silva. Fighters are going to look out for themselves and their families. It's Dana and Silva's job to look out for the fans and make sure the cards are stacked with great fights. A lot of people hate Jones and love Hendo' date=' so they don't want to imagine that maybe Dan made a bad call.[/quote']

 

Well you also have to understand a lot of fighters-especially when they are in high profiled fights, they want to drag out the injury to hopefully it goes away.

They can't risk telling the UFC in case they really do get better however they give it to someone else.

So I can see why Hendo didn't tell the UFC sooner because he was hoping he could heal up and still fight, it just didn't turn out really well.

 

Plus they were banking that if anything did happen, the main event would still accept a replacement, I mean this is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship is it not?

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Well you also have to understand a lot of fighters-especially when they are in high profiled fights' date=' they want to drag out the injury to hopefully it goes away.

They can't risk telling the UFC in case they really do get better however they give it to someone else.

So I can see why Hendo didn't tell the UFC sooner because he was hoping he could heal up and still fight, it just didn't turn out really well.

 

Plus they were banking that if anything did happen, the main event would still accept a replacement, I mean this is the Ultimate FIGHTING Championship is it not?[/quote']

 

I know all about keepin injuries a secret but bottom line, it was still bad for 151. Hendo was looking out for himself(understandably). He's a professional athlete with doctors that specialize in these things. And the whole thing with Chael makes it look suspicious too. And I don't know what I would do if I was in Jones position. You're a young kid with a mentor/coach/****** bag spewing nonsense in your ear. And what happens if he does lose the fight? We are talking about another professional athlete. Chael isn't a bum. There is a chance he could have lost. People hate him for ducking. If he lost people would hate him and he would be beltless.

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I know all about keepin injuries a secret but bottom line' date=' it was still bad for 151. Hendo was looking out for himself(understandably). He's a professional athlete with doctors that specialize in these things. And the whole thing with Chael makes it look suspicious too. And I don't know what I would do if I was in Jones position. You're a young kid with a mentor/coach/****** bag spewing nonsense in your ear. And what happens if he does lose the fight? We are talking about another professional athlete. Chael isn't a bum. There is a chance he could have lost. People hate him for ducking. If he lost people would hate him and he would be beltless.[/quote']

 

If he was to lose which IMO would of had been a really low chance, plus if he was to lose-99% chance he was getting an immediate rematch.

I understand he doesn't want to lose the belt at all because he wants to build a legacy, but rejecting a fight is also going to go onto his legacy.

I have a feeling he was worried that Chael had a good chance to put him on his back and he didn't train off his back as much.

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If he was to lose which IMO would of had been a really low chance' date=' plus if he was to lose-99% chance he was getting an immediate rematch.

I understand he doesn't want to lose the belt at all because he wants to build a legacy, but rejecting a fight is also going to go onto his legacy.

I have a feeling he was worried that Chael had a good chance to put him on his back and he didn't train off his back as much.[/quote']

 

I don't know if Chael was that much more of a threat than Dan in the wrestling department. You might be able to argue either way but even if Chael is better at wrestling at this point of their careers, I don't think he's on a whole other level or anything. I think Jones also knew how bad Chael wanted a shot and how much **** he talked. I think it honestly made Jon feel good to have that power over him to not have to give him a shot. But I dont' think Jones had any idea that the backlash would be this great though.

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