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Anyone who disagree need to watch the video of Condit's past fights, his run is much much more impressive than GSP's. He is much more deserved to be called a champion than GSP. This guy always deliever, this guy finished opponents in what ever way you can imagine. But when I am watching GSP's fight, I always feel that I am wasting my time.

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90% condit fans did not watch Condit vs Kampmann.

 

Condit has fans?

 

Junglebird is probably the only one here after the Diaz fight that is still a Condit fan. And I think that's great. Everyone else likes to judge him based off of one fight and completely forgets about his previous fights. Sad to see Condit get so much hate :(. I still think Condit is a beast. That being said...

 

 

...GSP for the win. I think a new GSP comes into this fight. He even said in an interview, posted recently from BJPenn.com, that he doesn't even have a plan for the fight!! And that's really surprising.

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Condit has fans?

 

Junglebird is probably the only one here after the Diaz fight that is still a Condit fan. And I think that's great. Everyone else likes to judge him based off of one fight and completely forgets about his previous fights. Sad to see Condit get so much hate :(. I still think Condit is a beast. That being said...

 

 

...GSP for the win. I think a new GSP comes into this fight. He even said in an interview' date=' posted recently from BJPenn.com, that he doesn't even have a plan for the fight!! And that's really surprising.[/quote']

 

Condit vs. Kampmann was a war.

 

I'll be happy to see the old GSP back.

 

If not. Condit will finish him.

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I like Condit, not GSP so much, but Condit won't win this. GSP is better on the feet and is the much better, stronger Wrestler. Unless GSP gets ****y (probably not) and gets caught with something flying or just kind of goes through the motions on the ground and gets caught in an armbar or triangle, Condit will be on the wrong end of a dominating performance. Or, maybe, hopefully this long lay off has reignited the long loss fire in GSP and he comes out and devastatingly finishes Condit early? I don't expect the 2nd option to happen, but Condit will likely be dominated for 5 rounds.

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Condit has fans?

 

Junglebird is probably the only one here after the Diaz fight that is still a Condit fan. And I think that's great. Everyone else likes to judge him based off of one fight and completely forgets about his previous fights. Sad to see Condit get so much hate :(. I still think Condit is a beast. That being said...

 

 

...GSP for the win. I think a new GSP comes into this fight. He even said in an interview' date=' posted recently from BJPenn.com, that he doesn't even have a plan for the fight!! And that's really surprising.[/quote']

 

I'm still a huge Condit fan. I don't like the fact that he's with the Jackson camp. The diaz fight was bad, if Condit could get out of that camp and back to what he does best, I still believe he's a champion. He just fell into the wrong point scoring camp rather than a finishing camp. :( I really think that camp is a sport killer.

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The big factor here is how GSP has recovered from the knee injury. Every fighter who has had major injuries always claims they are either 100% or even better than before when they have their comeback fight, but what actually happens is a different story.

 

Before GSP's acl injury I would have said that GSP's takedowns are too good for Condit to stop. Also GSP is just too good of a grappler for Condit to reverse or sub. I know many people look at the Dan Hardy fight and say GSP does not have good BJJ because he couldn't finish subs against a poor grappler, but GSP's amazing control abilities from top position are hard to deny. GSP has become too good at top control for anyone, but a spectacular BJJ specialist like Maia, to be able to reverse or sub him.

 

Now with the injury though you have to consider whether GSP will be 100%. There is also a possibility he could come out even better with new motivation and new skills from a long break, but the stability of his knee will be a major danger for him going forward.

 

I will still pick GSP because I think he is a bad match up for Condit, but I would not be surprised at all if Condit does win and either ring rust or knee problems cause GSP to lose his title.

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The big factor here is how GSP has recovered from the knee injury. Every fighter who has had major injuries always claims they are either 100% or even better than before when they have their comeback fight' date=' but what actually happens is a different story.

 

Before GSP's acl injury I would have said that GSP's takedowns are too good for Condit to stop. Also GSP is just too good of a grappler for Condit to reverse or sub. I know many people look at the Dan Hardy fight and say GSP does not have good BJJ because he couldn't finish subs against a poor grappler, but GSP's amazing control abilities from top position are hard to deny. GSP has become too good at top control for anyone, but a [b']spectacular BJJ specialist like Maia, to be able to reverse or sub him[/b].

 

Now with the injury though you have to consider whether GSP will be 100%. There is also a possibility he could come out even better with new motivation and new skills from a long break, but the stability of his knee will be a major danger for him going forward.

 

I will still pick GSP because I think he is a bad match up for Condit, but I would not be surprised at all if Condit does win and either ring rust or knee problems cause GSP to lose his title.

 

Soooooo what is BJ Penn to you then?

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It all depends on how GSP is going to fight in this one. He always gets ramped up about his fights saying he's going to go for the kill but then his instincts get the better of him and he starts to fight safe. I just think all of these years fighting safe and with game plans has affected his instincts as a fighter and he will revert to them in times of pressure. Kind of like training in a martial art, you do it so often that when it comes time to use the skills, you just do it out of instinct and almost subconsciously.

 

Condit's never faced a guy like GSP that has such skill and all fighters go into the fight with GSP saying they'll do this and that, but when they're in there, they quickly realize that it's not like training with some partner but a guy that has better skills than you so you start to freeze up a little when things don't go your way.

 

Anything is possible in this fight, but if we match skills and so forth, GSP's abilities should nullify anything Condit can do in there. This one is going to go to the person who makes the least mistakes or that capitalizes on one.

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Anyone who disagree need to watch the video of Condit's past fights' date=' his run is much much more impressive than GSP's. He is much more deserved to be called a champion than GSP. This guy always deliever, this guy finished opponents in what ever way you can imagine. But when I am watching GSP's fight, I always feel that I am wasting my time.[/quote']

 

I would not disagree that Condits run has been impressive, no doubt ,and a lot of people are counting him out, unfortunatly those were stand up wars , and Condit will be spending upward of 21 minutes on his back,now if GSP can take down premium wrestlers like Hughes ,Ffitch , and Kos, I would be surprised if Carlos will be stuffing many takedowns.Condit has so many offensive weapons, maybe he can catch George coming in with a knee or elbow, he won't be throwing many kicks fearing the TD though.TAKEDOWN DEFENCE AND SUBMISSIONS SHOULD BE HIS FOCUS.Despite what the haters say George is a very good stand up fighter, we just have not seen it in a while, CARLOS CAN WIN IF THIS FIGHT IF IT STAYS STANDING(MAYBE) , BUT DEFENDING THE BEST TWO LEG IN THE SPORT IS UNLIKELY. H8 TO SAY IT BUT.........AND STILL WW CHAMPION OF THE WORLD GEORGE ST. PIERRE UD 5

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i agree' date=' he ran like usain bolt against diaz[/quote']

 

yeah he should have played right into diaz's strength like diaz's last 10 opponents. Brains win fights, condit is a super athlete, he was able to run a marathon , win the interim title and oh, yeah guess what................he still outstruck nick.better to avoid getting hit than trying to knock out nicks hand with his head

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i think if condit keeps moving and sticks and moves he will be able to avoid the takedown, GSP is famous for his shot but its difficult to land one when your opponent is constantly moving. He has alot less to fear in the standup depertment so should be able to be abit more offensive whilst keeping the footwork going to avoid the double leg. Could be an easy fight for condit if he manages that. GSPs standup has becoem more and more questionable.

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I'm still a huge Condit fan. I don't like the fact that he's with the Jackson camp. The diaz fight was bad' date=' if Condit could get out of that camp and back to what he does best, I still believe he's a champion. He just fell into the wrong point scoring camp rather than a finishing camp. :( I really think that camp is a sport killer.[/quote']

 

But he was getting finishes before the Diaz fight and he was with Jackson.

 

So does it really matter? It was one fight. I don't expect him to fight like that against GSP.

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lol you were wasting your time because GSP was always an easy winner.Why people constantly talk about finishing is beyond me.What is he going to do when he can't finish,RUN?You talk impressive ruin,he looked nothing of the sort versus Diaz,he even admitted that he could not fight Diaz ,he had to use a run n gun tactic.

 

What i fear more than GSP opponents is he has got completely away from wrestling.I knew that would happen with that dumb boxing training he did.His wrestling was completely dominating this sport,so why would he change that is just idk retarded.All he needed was to add elbows and wrestling finishing moves and nobody would touch him until he retires.

 

IF GSP gets back to wrestling more,there is NOTHING Condit can do but lay on his back and pray the ref gives him a handicap advantage to stand up.

REF.."Here you go son ,i will help you up ,since you came into this title fight unskilled".

IMO refs standing up fights is like a bowling handicap,to help the needy,less skilled fighters.

A guy gets you down on the street ,you don't say "can you please let me back up...lol".

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First instinct tells me GSP wins no problem...but but...Condit is one hell of a classy fighter and he is as resilient as they come.

 

Rory Macdonald beat Condit up for two rounds. Round three Condit comes out and fights like it's the first round and puts a mad beatdown on Rory...a stellar performance showing the heart and skills of a champ.

 

Also a one punch KO of Hardy!

 

I would not like to have money at stake on the outcome of this fight.

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lol you were wasting your time because GSP was always an easy winner.Why people constantly talk about finishing is beyond me.What is he going to do when he can't finish' date='RUN?You talk impressive ruin,he looked nothing of the sort versus Diaz,he even admitted that he could not fight Diaz ,he had to use a run n gun tactic.

 

What i fear more than GSP opponents is he has got completely away from wrestling.I knew that would happen with that dumb boxing training he did.His wrestling was completely dominating this sport,so why would he change that is just idk retarded.All he needed was to add elbows and wrestling finishing moves and nobody would touch him until he retires.

 

IF GSP gets back to wrestling more,there is NOTHING Condit can do but lay on his back and pray the ref gives him a handicap advantage to stand up.

REF.."Here you go son ,i will help you up ,since you came into this title fight unskilled".

[b']IMO refs standing up fights is like a bowling handicap,to help the needy,less skilled fighters.[/b]

A guy gets you down on the street ,you don't say "can you please let me back up...lol".

 

Couldnt agree more. What about ineffective striking. (Condit vs Diaz) Diaz you seem to be having a hard time with this fighters defensive minded approach, lets break this up, and you can start in his guard. Stupid right? Then why do we allow it for ground game.

 

They are fighting, this is where the fight ended up, let them go at it and work it out. Its a bit embarrassing for the sport to be honest.

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Anyone who disagree need to watch the video of Condit's past fights' date=' his run is much much more impressive than GSP's. He is much more deserved to be called a champion than GSP. This guy always deliever, this guy finished opponents in what ever way you can imagine. But when I am watching GSP's fight, I always feel that I am wasting my time.[/quote']

 

11ers......

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