Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Stephan Bonnar helped usher in The UFC to the mainstream with his fight against Forrest Griffin and I for one have no issues with that guy being handed a fight with Anderson Silva for that reason alone. Stephan Bonnar and Forrest Griffin deserve pretty much what ever they ask for...within reason. That's how life really works chumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 The one fight helped but the impact is really overrated. Liddell, Hughes, Franklin, Tito, and Randy had more of an impact on the UFC's popularity than Bonnar or Griffin. I have no problem with Bonnar and Silva fighting though. This is how mma is supposed to be, **** rankings, **** who deserves what. Two fighters agreed to fight each other and they are going to figure out who will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 The one fight helped but the impact is really overrated. Liddell' date=' Hughes, Franklin, Tito, and Randy had more of an impact on the UFC's popularity than Bonnar or Griffin. [b']I have no problem with Bonnar and Silva fighting though. This is how mma is supposed to be, **** rankings, **** who deserves what. Two fighters agreed to fight each other and they are going to figure out who will win.[/b] Agreed. I love this fight, but I think Silva doesn't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 The one fight helped but the impact is really overrated. Liddell' date=' Hughes, Franklin, Tito, and Randy had more of an impact on the UFC's popularity than Bonnar or Griffin. I have no problem with Bonnar and Silva fighting though. This is how mma is supposed to be, **** rankings, **** who deserves what. Two fighters agreed to fight each other and they are going to figure out who will win.[/quote'] I don't think the impact was overrated. The fighters you mentioned built a fan base that mainstream America had no clue about but the impact of Forrest and Bonnars fight on network television ushered in "mainstream" America. Just a few years before that MMA was banned EVERYWHERE. That fight had heart, that fight was brutal, that fight was everything MMA is about and it was on free TV. Maybe at the time it didn't mean much to you or others because you were already invested? Possibly? How long have you been following MMA? Nirvana didn't invent grunge rock but they brought it to the mainstream arguably better than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I seriously don't give a crap about this fight. really, what is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I seriously don't give a crap about this fight. really' date=' what is the point?[/quote'] There's lots of reasons I'm starting to care. Keep thinking about it, it may come to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 There's lots of reasons I'm starting to care. Keep thinking about it' date=' it may come to you.[/quote']I seriously couldn't care less to be honest, but I will see how I feel in a few days. It may grow on me, I'll give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I seriously couldn't care less to be honest' date=' but I will see how I feel in a few days. It may grow on me, I'll give it a go [/quote'] It may be *****'s retirement fight:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I seriously couldn't care less to be honest' date=' but I will see how I feel in a few days. It may grow on me, I'll give it a go [/quote'] At first I was feeling the same way but I thought about it and because of the BS politics between Jones and Chael, the legacy of Bonnar, the fact that this could be Bonnars retirement fight or his shinning moment as an underdog rising up from the ashes, or just to see Silva fight...I'm getting excited. I thought Jones vs Vitor was lame but I'm excited for it now. Anything can happen! Bonnar has a small chance of winning but there's still a chance. I think the greatest moments in MMA come from small chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 At first I was feeling the same way but I thought about it and because of the BS politics between Jones and Chael' date=' the legacy of Bonnar, the fact that this could be Bonnars retirement fight or his shinning moment as an underdog rising up from the ashes, or just to see Silva fight...I'm getting excited. I thought Jones vs Vitor was lame but I'm excited for it now. Anything can happen! Bonnar has a small chance of winning but there's still a chance. I think the greatest moments in MMA come from small chances.[/quote'] I will seriously think about it and what you have said. If Bonnar could get the win then it would be one of the best moments in UFC history. Just thinking that is a very big IF. It will probably grow on me, this is the first day since the weekend I have actually caught up with anything MMA related so still new news for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I will seriously think about it and what you have said. If Bonnar could get the win then it would be one of the best moments in UFC history. Just thinking that is a very big IF. It will probably grow on me' date=' this is the first day since the weekend I have actually caught up with anything MMA related so still new news for me[/quote'] It's been a crazy 3 weeks in MMA. Yeah, everyone is counting Bonnar out. I have to pull for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I don't think the impact was overrated. The fighters you mentioned built a fan base that mainstream America had no clue about but the impact of Forrest and Bonnars fight on network television ushered in "mainstream" America. Just a few years before that MMA was banned EVERYWHERE. That fight had heart' date=' that fight was brutal, that fight was everything MMA is about and it was on free TV. Maybe at the time it didn't mean much to you or others because you were already invested? Possibly? How long have you been following MMA? Nirvana didn't invent grunge rock but they brought it to the mainstream arguably better than anyone.[/quote'] I have been following closely since UFC 22 but had seen a few events before so 98 or 99. I get what you are saying but after the show you need stars to keep everyone watching and the reason that my friends and I were even watching the first TUF to begin with was Liddell and Randy. I just think that it would have made it with or without that fight. It may have taken longer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 It's been a crazy 3 weeks in MMA. Yeah' date=' everyone is counting Bonnar out. I have to pull for the guy.[/quote']It seriously has been crazy. I have always been a fan of Bonnar and hope he can pull off the upset, just need to get my head to follow my heart on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I have been following closely since UFC 22 but had seen a few events before so 98 or 99. I get what you are saying but after the show you need stars to keep everyone watching and the reason that my friends and I were even watching the first TUF to begin with was Liddell and Randy. I just think that it would have made it with or without that fight. It may have taken longer though. Still, you've been following it a long time, you watched it grow from the start of Zuffa getting involved. You're an old school follower and I think it's hard for us guys to see past what sparked your interest to begin with. Youre right man, those guys are rock stars and we know they built the sport. They were the test pilots, the guine pigs, the ones who made a company very rich, the ones who put there bodies on the line and many of them retired with very little BUT with the ground work they layed out it helped the Griffen and Bonnar fight set the bar higher for a new form of sports entertainment on network/cable tv. That fight not only had guys like you and I watching, it had the young guys (new fans) going to school the next day talking about the fight and those guys are now out of school and still following it and probably turned on at least one friend to the sport. I think it was the single most important fight for ZUFFA...ever. And MMA reaped the benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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