This Whole Anti-Muslim Film Thing

[Melvinj0]

Its so stupid. If you've actually watched the film its just like WTF? People are really angry over this? People have killed people because of this stupid movie?

 

Religion is so great eh?

[Bezerker101]

Its so stupid. If you've actually watched the film its just like WTF? People are really angry over this? People have killed people because of this stupid movie?

 

Religion is so great eh?

 

Melvin, Melvin, Melvin ... their entire belief system is based on "Convert them or Kill them"

... I believe many people are not aware of this -

 

*** Kevbo is gonna love this thread -

 

 

 

 

Melvin, do you have any new stand-up comedy video's on yt ?

... we enjoyed the hell out of them ?

[Melvinj0]

Melvin' date=' Melvin, Melvin ... their entire belief system is based on "Convert them or Kill them"

... I believe many people are not aware of this -

 

*** Kevbo is gonna love this thread -

 

 

 

 

Melvin, do you have any new stand-up comedy video's on yt ?

... we enjoyed the hell out of them ?[/quote']

 

Not atm, im performing tuesday and thursday though, so ill upload those performances.

[Vendur]

The supposed "film rage" is ******** created by the leftist media as Obama's covering fire, nothing more.

 

They are trying to re-elect the worst president in US history. Takes a lot of lies and misrepresentation to do so. Have you been asleep for bush's third term?

[Bezerker101]

The supposed "film rage" is ******** created by the leftist media as Obama's covering fire' date=' nothing more.

[b']

They are trying to re-elect the worst president in US history[/b]. Takes a lot of lies and misrepresentation to do so. Have you been asleep for bush's third term?

 

word 100% ^

[Kevbo_Jones]

Its so stupid. If you've actually watched the film its just like WTF? People are really angry over this? People have killed people because of this stupid movie?

 

Religion is so great eh?

 

The film was just the catalyst. The real driving force behind the protests are the US occupations of Muslim dominated areas, our support of Israel, our support of oppressive dictators, and drone strikes killing innocent people. The film will also be used by US government to attack first amendment rights and regulate internet content. Watch and see...

[Kevbo_Jones]

The supposed "film rage" is ******** created by the leftist media as Obama's covering fire' date=' nothing more.

 

They are trying to re-elect the worst president in US history. Takes a lot of lies and misrepresentation to do so. Have you been asleep for bush's third term?[/quote']

 

Uhhh the right is basically parroting the same nonsense as the left. You are aware of that right? The only real solutions are to cut aid to those areas, close the embassies, and bring our service members home. But that would be "letting the terrorists win" right?

[Bezerker101]

The film was just the catalyst. The real driving force behind the protests are the US occupations of Muslim dominated areas' date=' our support of Israel[/b'], our support of oppressive dictators, and drone strikes killing innocent people. The film will also be used by US government to attack first amendment rights and regulate internet content. Watch and see...

 

the key being "our support of Israel"

... how you be brother love ?

[Bezerker101]

Uhhh the right is basically parroting the same nonsense as the left. You are aware of that right? The only real solutions are to cut aid to those areas' date=' close the embassies, and bring our service members home. But that would be "letting the terrorists win" right?[/quote']

 

the idea of the Muslim Brotherhood working w/ the Obama administration

for any other reason than $$$ is twilight zone -

[Kevbo_Jones]

the key being "our support of Israel"

... how you be brother love ?

 

Very true and Ive been great. Good to see you back around these parts!

[Kevbo_Jones]

the idea of the Muslim Brotherhood working w/ the Obama administration

for any other reason than $$$ is twilight zone -

 

The president has little to do with CIA involvement with these organizations. It's on a need to know basis, and the president doesn't need to know.

[Bezerker101]

The president has little to do with CIA involvement with these organizations. It's on a need to know basis' date=' and the president doesn't need to know. [/quote']

 

this thread is in good hands -

[Kevbo_Jones]

I also find it highly entertaining that many outspoken Christians, the very same ones that defend their religion when talking about the crusades, the inquisitions, witch trials... Etc... Etc. As bad people doing bad things in the name of god, not acting in accordance with religion itself can, in the same breath, paint every Muslim with the same broad brush for the actions of a few radicals. It's comically hypocritical.

[Vendur]

I also find it highly entertaining that many outspoken Christians' date=' the very same ones that defend their religion when talking about the crusades, the inquisitions, witch trials... Etc... Etc. As bad people doing bad things in the name of god, not acting in accordance with religion itself can, in the same breath, paint every Muslim with the same broad brush for the actions of a few radicals. It's comically hypocritical.[/quote']

 

There is no christian dogma /teachings about "witch trials", inquisition, crusades.

 

 

Much different from the Koran, As killing the infidel is akin to a commandment to them.

 

That said, this third world trash didn't need Mohammad's blessingfor their violence. Their rage is that of a bassackwards people shaking their fists and pounding sand at their own pathetic existence.

 

Being the head of the FBI and CIA and whatever else in your fantsies, it must be hard to be biblical scholar, too.

 

How do you do it, kevbo?

[Kevbo_Jones]

All of what you said is not true. The bible calls for and accepts acts of violence just as much as the Koran. Ill leave you to your own research on the subject, as its been discussed ad nauseam. What you fail to understand is that the religious texts of the Koran are just as easily manipulated as those of the bible. You're trying to blame Islam as a whole for their opposition of ideological clashes under US occupation.

 

Can you honestly tell me that Americans would be any more diplomatic if the shoe were on the other foot and we were being occupied by an Islamic based society who supported oppressive government and leadership, all the while killing women and children in attempts to snuff out radicals? I think not... That is why we are hated around the world. Americans have an inability to empathize with other cultures who are under these situations. The "they hate our freedoms" pitch is propaganda to garner support from ignorant flag waivers.

[Vendur]

All of what you said is not true. The bible calls for and accepts acts of violence just as much as the Koran. Ill leave you to your own research on the subject' date=' as its been discussed ad nauseam. What you fail to understand is that the religious texts of the Koran are just as easily manipulated as those of the bible. You're trying to blame Islam as a whole for their opposition of ideological clashes under US occupation. [/quote']

 

 

The Koran doesn't need to be manipulated to foster violence. It's plumb full of genocidal savagery outright.

 

And go ahead and show me the new testament talking about killing people and such.You are so full of **** kevblow. You know nothing. You hope beyond hope some idiot is clicking through this website who doesn't already know you are bereft of even the most basic intellectual capacity.

[fobar]

Why do Christians always refer to the the New Testament and try and distance themselves from the Old?

 

genuine question

[Kevbo_Jones]

The Koran doesn't need to be manipulated to foster violence. It's plumb full of genocidal savagery outright.

 

And go ahead and show me the new testament talking about killing people and such.You are so full of **** kevblow. You know nothing. You hope beyond hope some idiot is clicking through this website that doesn't already know you are bereft of even the most basic intellectual capacity.

 

Not all sects of Christianity follow the teachings of the NT, mistake 1. You obviously cannot discuss this topic in a mature, rational manner and have to resort to insults to fill that void, mistake 2. You're still clearly painting all Muslims with the same sweeping, broad brush and trying to blame my "intellectual capacity" on your preconceived prejudices, mistake 3.

[Kevbo_Jones]

Why do Christians always refer to the the New Testament and try and distance themselves from the Old?

 

genuine question

 

That's because the NT was the re-write to correct all the misnomers and hypocrisy of the teachings of the OT.

[fobar]

That's because the NT was the re-write to correct all the misnomers and hypocrisy of the teachings of the OT.

So basically they cherry picked the bit's they liked and said the original was just a mistake?

[fobar]

Oh and how do we know the New Testament is correct and not the Old? who decide they Old wasn't the book to follow anymore?

[Kevbo_Jones]

BTW here are a few to get the ball rolling...

 

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

 

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

 

Kill Witches You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

 

Kill Homosexuals

 

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

 

Kill Fortunetellers

 

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

 

Death for Hitting Dad

 

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

 

Death for Cursing Parents

 

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) 2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

 

Death for Adultery

 

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

 

Death for Fornication

 

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

 

Death to Followers of Other Religions

 

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

 

Kill Nonbelievers

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

 

Kill False Prophets

 

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

 

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

 

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

 

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

 

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night),and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

 

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

 

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

 

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

 

Death for Blasphemy

 

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

 

Kill False Prophets

 

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

 

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

 

Infidels and Gays Should Die

 

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

 

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

 

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

 

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

 

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

[Vendur]

Not all sects of Christianity follow the teachings of the NT' date=' mistake 1. You obviously cannot discuss this topic in a mature, rational manner and have to resort to insults to fill that void, mistake 2. You're still clearly painting all Muslims with the same sweeping, broad brush and trying to blame my "intellectual capacity" on your preconceived prejudices, mistake 3.[/quote']

 

Are you seriuosly ths ****ing dumb.

 

Jesus nor his teachings even exist in the OT.

 

The "sects" you are refering to would be jews, not Christians, assuming the even existed.

 

In either case it's irrrelevant, because they don't exist and it's just more ******** you made up.

[Kevbo_Jones]

So basically they cherry picked the bit's they liked and said the original was just a mistake?

 

Pretty much. Dabble in a bit of martyrdom with Jesus and voila... All is forgiven.

[Kevbo_Jones]

Are you seriuosly ths ****ing dumb.

 

Jesus nor his teachings even exist in the OT.

 

The sects you are refering to would be jews' date=' not christians.

 

In either case it's irrrelevant, because they don't exist and it's just more ******** you made up.[/quote']

 

Exhibit A there fobar... I never mentioned Jesus. Maybe you should specify by saying "my denomination doesn't follow the OT." Which proves my point in your quoted post. You are aware that there are different sects of Islam just as with Christianity, right? See where I'm going with this?

[fobar]

Pretty much. Dabble in a bit of martyrdom with Jesus and voila... All is forgiven.

thankyou my friend

[fobar]

Exhibit A there fobar...

Hmmm, he seems mad for some reason?

[chanman20]

I also find it highly entertaining that many outspoken Christians' date=' the very same ones that defend their religion when talking about the crusades[/b'], the inquisitions, witch trials... Etc... Etc. As bad people doing bad things in the name of god, not acting in accordance with religion itself can, in the same breath, paint every Muslim with the same broad brush for the actions of a few radicals. It's comically hypocritical.

 

i believe the Catholic's started the crusades, not all Christians are Catholic. Also who are you talking about when you say many outspoken Christians?

 

Anyway all 3 of you guys should chill out a little bit lol

[Vendur]

Exhibit A there fobar... I never mentioned Jesus. Maybe you should specify by saying "my denomination doesn't follow the OT." Which proves my point in your quoted post. You are aware that there are different sects of Islam just as with Christianity' date=' right? See where I'm going with this?[/quote']

 

You can't be "christian" and not follow the NT. You aren't "going" anywhere. You are right where you started: standing in a pile of your own ignorant ********.

[chanman20]

You can't be "christian" and not follow the NT. You aren't "going" anywhere. You are right where you started: standing in a pile of your own ignorant ********.

 

since when do you make the rules o.O

[Vendur]

since when do you make the rules o.O

 

Wow. This forum is full of even dumber people then before. Is that even possible?

 

A christian who doesn't follow the NT is like a vegetarian who only eats meat. It his nothing to do with "who makes the rules"; it's the very definition of the words being spoken of.

[fobar]

Wow. This forum is full of even dumber people then before. Is that even possible?

 

A christian who doesn't follow the NT is like a vegetarian who only eats meat. It his nothing to do with "who makes the rules"; it's the very definition of the words being spoken of.

How very Christian of you to insult people that you believe are ignorant? or to use your words dumb

[Kevbo_Jones]

Oh and how do we know the New Testament is correct and not the Old? who decide they Old wasn't the book to follow anymore?

 

The First Council of Nicaea.

[Kevbo_Jones]

Wow. This forum is full of even dumber people then before. Is that even possible?

 

A christian who doesn't follow the NT is like a vegetarian who only eats meat. It his nothing to do with "who makes the rules"; it's the very definition of the words being spoken of.

 

Oh really? How do you explain the various orthodoxy denominations then?

[chanman20]

Wow. This forum is full of even dumber people then before. Is that even possible?

 

A christian who doesn't follow the NT is like a vegetarian who only eats meat. It his nothing to do with "who makes the rules"; it's the very definition of the words being spoken of.

 

LOL just shut up while your ahead kid

[Vendur]

Oh really? How do you explain the various orthodoxy denominations then?

 

Go ahead and tell me the christian denominations who don't follow the NT.

[Kevbo_Jones]

i believe the Catholic's started the crusades' date=' not all Christians are Catholic. Also who are you talking about when you say many outspoken Christians?

 

Anyway all 3 of you guys should chill out a little bit lol[/quote']

 

That's correct! Just as a specific sect of ultraconsevative Islam is responsible for these radicals and their behaviors. Should all Muslims be put under the same umbrella but Christians not? That's my point.

[chanman20]

Wow. This forum is full of even dumber people then before. Is that even possible?

 

A christian who doesn't follow the NT is like a vegetarian who only eats meat. It his nothing to do with "who makes the rules"; it's the very definition of the words being spoken of.

 

so cause someone said ok the NT is better the the old one if you don't follow it your not a christian means its true. Im pretty sure i can believe in the new or old if i want to. Next your gonna say if someone doesn't go to Church every week there not a christian right?

 

how about this you sit here and insult/cuss at people so your not a real christian so stop kidding yourself

[fobar]

i believe the Catholic's started the crusades' date=' not all Christians are Catholic. Also who are you talking about when you say many outspoken Christians?

 

Anyway all 3 of you guys should chill out a little bit lol[/quote']

3 of you guys?

 

only one seems to be mad, i'm just asking genuine questions so

[chanman20]

That's correct! Just as a specific sect of ultraconsevative Islam is responsible for these radicals and their behaviors. Should all Muslims be put under the same umbrella but Christians not? That's my point.

 

you got me there

[Vendur]

LOL just shut up while your ahead kid

 

Who the **** are you again? Kevbo's **** lover?

[fobar]

The First Council of Nicaea.

Didnt they have input of all the teachings that were available and pick the parts from each they thought would make up the best book to go forward with?

[Gabri1985]

What was the film? anyway how often do you see pics of Muslims burning American flags, if your going to do that kind of stuff then you really have no room to get mad.

 

All religion does is give idiots like this another reason to kill.

[fobar]

Who the **** are you again? Kevbo's **** lover?

Why are you so mad?

[Kevbo_Jones]

Go ahead and tell me the christian denominations who don't follow the NT.

 

Why should I waste my time posting research you need to do yourself? This also really has bunk to do with the topic at hand.

[chanman20]

Who the **** are you again? Kevbo's **** lover?

 

awww is the little kid getting mad

[Vendur]

Why are you so mad?

 

I'm not mad. I'm vendur. That's how I roll, nooblet.

[chanman20]

did yoiu know when Family guy made fun of them they sent in letters threatening to kill everyone who worked there

[fobar]

I'm not mad. I'm vendur. That's how I roll' date=' nooblet.[/quote']

you roll angry and insult people, is that being a good christian?

 

and why insult when you are wrong, just admit you are wrong and move on. turn the other cheek

[Kevbo_Jones]

Didnt they have input of all the teachings that were available and pick the parts from each they thought would make up the best book to go forward with?

 

Yes, exactly. Much how partisan cherry pickers do in politics for favorable images of their candidates.