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RogerJones620

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Would anyone really have questioned it?

 

At the party I was at, myself and everyone else were all like "that was an illegal knee" (not saying it was, but in the moment that's how we saw it), and I heard several of the celebrity commentators (Michael Bisping, Ronda Rousey) say the same thing when it first happened.

 

Legal or illegal, if the Referee had stopped the fight and Disqualified Anderson Silva right there, would anyone really have questioned it?

 

I really think where the knee was so questionable (I've seen convincing arguments for both sides - legal or illegal) that if the Referee had stopped the fight that it would have gone down in history as illegal.

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Rule_abiding_poster

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No, infact I was much more suprised at Anderson NOT being disqualified in that fight, he did everything he could to try though leading up to the fight and even cheated blatantly numerous times in the bout and still somehow got away with it. No worries though at least we all know who the better more talented fighter now is, and that's Chael p. Sonnen.

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yes because It didnt hit him in the face.

 

False. Put a protective pad on your chest, lean up against the wall and let me throw a knee at your chest as hard as I can. You should be safe because of the protective pad, right? You won't get about half of your teeth knocked out and have to go to the ER for a traumatic brain injury, because it was a knee to the chest, right?

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At the time of viewing I genuinely believed it was legal.

 

I wasn't sure enough that I'd have bet my house on it, but I remember thinking that it was ok, while eagerly awaiting the replay, just to confirm.

 

If the fight had of been stopped, I think I'd have been shocked. And by the time the replay was done, I'd have been fuming.

 

It was the right call, thankfully.

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Would anyone really have questioned it?

 

At the party I was at' date=' myself and everyone else were all like "that was an illegal knee" (not saying it was, but in the moment that's how we saw it), and I heard several of the celebrity commentators (Michael Bisping, Ronda Rousey) say the same thing when it first happened.

 

[b']Legal or illegal, if the Referee had stopped the fight and Disqualified Anderson Silva right there, would anyone really have questioned it?[/b]

 

I really think where the knee was so questionable (I've seen convincing arguments for both sides - legal or illegal) that if the Referee had stopped the fight that it would have gone down in history as illegal.

 

If the ref wrongly disqualified Silva by saying that knee was illegal, after the ringside officials watched the slow motion replays, it would've been turned into a no contest.

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False. Put a protective pad on your chest' date=' lean up against the wall and let me throw a knee at your chest as hard as I can. You should be safe because of the protective pad, right? You won't get about half of your teeth knocked out and have to go to the ER for a traumatic brain injury, because it was a knee to the chest, right?[/quote']

 

I have never been more sure of anything in my entire life. You sir, are retarded.

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False. Put a protective pad on your chest' date=' lean up against the wall and let me throw a knee at your chest as hard as I can. You should be safe because of the protective pad, right? You won't get about half of your teeth knocked out and have to go to the ER for a traumatic brain injury, because it was a knee to the chest, right?[/quote']

 

I don't. . . . .you. . . . . .wha?

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There is no argument. There's no such thing as "valid points from both sides". The knee is either to the face or it isn't to the face.

 

Slow motion HD replays make it crystal clear that the knee was to the body. Wasn't even to the highest section of the chest. If the ref had called it illegal there would've been no DQ because he would've given Sonnen 5 minuts to recover before considering the fight over. Sonnen would've either wussed out for the whole time like Koscheck or would've kept going right away. In those 5 minuts the replay would've been showed times and times again and it would've been obvious before the time out is over that the knee was legal.

 

If you still think that knee was disputable it just means you haven't seen replays with good enough definition.

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that's quite stupid.

his leg barely touches sonnen's face' date=' and his knee def didn't.

 

if you follow the rules hard enough to say that one was illegal, 80% of the fights would change results due to nape punches.[/quote']

 

+1

 

They should just give them swords and they should fight like in Spartacus

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You know how many fouls i have seen go unscathed,then to think IF there was one in a title fight,there should be a DQ?

IMO there should be an auto penalty for all infractions,none of this warning crap and twice you lose.The ONLY reason i accept a warning is in such cases as this one a borderline call,i wouldn't want to see a guy lose on something too close to call.

I have seen guys kick the other to the groin then even after a warning they go right back to more borderline kicks.

The problem with this sport and any others is they revolve around a judgment call by an official.This includes stoppages ,stand ups,this is not even mentioning the very shotty judging.

To answer your question..of course! I would have questioned it.Then after seeing the replay ,i would have said ok maybe a stoppage for a minute.However you know as well as me that it did nothing to Sonnen and his EGO is so big he wouldn't want to give any impression Silva hurt him,so he would have asked to continue immediately.

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in case there are any naysayer's that exist still doubting the obvious illegal knee thrown by silva please see below for proof:

 

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=3893&d=1342380432

 

1. Posts a picture displaying Anderson's knee hitting the chest, but with text saying that is hitting the head.

2. Hopes people will just read the text and completely ignore the actual image

3. Is in complete denial

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JimmyKruger

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It's not even deniable that Anderson's leg hit Sonnen in the face

 

But it is deniable that the knee hit his face' date=' because it didn't.

 

The upper thigh merely came into contact with the face as a result of the fact it is located in the middle of a leg, which can only be bent [i']so far[/i].

 

So the question raised has nothing to do with the knee to the chest but rather asks whether that portion of anderson's thigh which did make contact with chael's face, did so with enough force to have been the cause (or even a significantly contributing factor) of Chael being unable to continue, moments later.

 

And the answer is no.

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