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BruteDion

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well since the UFC is giving credit to Vitor for his HW torney win as an HW Champhionship that means Hendo also gets credit for his MW torney win as an MW Champhionship:):D

 

and with that MW belt that means his list of accomplishments looks like this

 

UFC MW champ

Pride WW champ

Pride MW champ

SF LHW Champ

 

thats a total of 4 major promo champhionships across 2 weightclass...only randy has done more but that was with one major promo alone when much of that time Pride was deeper

 

also lets look at the former champs he has beaten

 

Fedor (thought to be the HW GOAT by some)

Shogun

Cavelcarte

Sobral X2

Franklin

Wandy

Belfort

Bustamente X2

Newton

Big Nog

 

thats 12 wins over former Major promo champs...pretty impressive

 

only guys i think who could match that are Fedor,Shogun but all have lost to hendo and dont have his title count

 

he lost to anderson and i think anderson is the best P4P fighter MMA has seen but he has not matched hendos accomplishments

 

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The loss to Shields' date=' and then the rebirth with TRT make me question his recent accomplishments.[/quote']

 

everyone has losses...im not saying he is the best all time fighter im just sayin hes the most accomplished

 

also the TRT was all legal so whats the problem...taking credit from a person who didnt break any rules to me is stupid...if it broke a rule ok (like cheal) if its legit then whats the problem...if mir beat JDS would he be less of a champ?

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everyone has losses...im not saying he is the best all time fighter im just sayin hes the most accomplished

 

also the TRT was all legal so whats the problem...taking credit from a person who didnt break any rules to me is stupid...if it broke a rule ok (like cheal) if its legit then whats the problem...if mir beat JDS would he be less of a champ?

 

Legal and ethical aren't the same.

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Legal and ethical aren't the same.

 

while i agree

 

you can measure what is legal

 

what you cant measure is whats ethical

 

you do know what is measurable?...accomplishments and thats the bases of this thread

 

shoul every fighter that has taken TRT or any other stimulate that helps...having to much cafeine in you is wrong...do we take away from the coffee drinkers that fight aswell?

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i still think that hendo vs shields fight somehow had every single thing going right for shields to win.

 

Any other period of their mma careers would have Hendo winning' date=' Hendo would win the rematch if they had one, even at 185 today.

 

[b']I also feel the same way about Nog vs Mir both times[/b] :o

 

This^^

Nog wasn't 100% going into their first fight

2nd fight showed who was the boss standing, however he rushed the guillotine trying to prove a point;leaves his arm in during the peak out and gets tapped.

I would still be very excited if they had a 3rd fight even though Nog is 0-2.

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This^^

Nog wasn't 100% going into their first fight

2nd fight showed who was the boss standing' date=' however he rushed the guillotine trying to prove a point;leaves his arm in during the peak out and gets tapped.

I would still be very excited if they had a 3rd fight even though Nog is 0-2.[/quote']

 

Could not agree more

 

Brock: mir has a horse shoe up his ***

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while i agree

 

you can measure what is legal

 

what you cant measure is whats ethical

 

you do know what is measurable?...accomplishments and thats the bases of this thread

 

shoul every fighter that has taken TRT or any other stimulate that helps...having to much cafeine in you is wrong...do we take away from the coffee drinkers that fight aswell?

 

If your performance falls way off, and then you use TRT to recapture what you lost, that should be wrong. Yes, it's legal, but I say that's unethical.

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This^^

Nog wasn't 100% going into their first fight

2nd fight showed who was the boss standing' date=' however he rushed the guillotine trying to prove a point;leaves his arm in during the peak out and gets tapped.

I would still be very excited if they had a 3rd fight even though Nog is 0-2.[/quote']

 

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what's your point?

 

That Frank Mir officially finished Big Nog twice and ex PRIDE fans are still butthurt and making excuses just like Big Nog and how much Frank Mir "sucks" and "ducks" fights and blah blah blah yawn....fart

 

Also its a quiet day at work

 

frank_mir_2.jpg

 

WAR FRANK MIR!!!

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That Frank Mir officially finished Big Nog twice and ex PRIDE fans are still butthurt and making excuses just like Big Nog and how much Frank Mir "sucks" and "ducks" fights and blah blah blah yawn....fart

 

Also its a quiet day at work

 

frank_mir_2.jpg

 

WAR FRANK MIR!!!

 

no one is denying the victory to be a fake, not saying it's a wwf scheme or whatever.

There not excuses, there facts; he was in the hospital weeks before, and in the 2nd fight he dropped Mir, rushed the guillotine and left his arm in during the peak out...all facts.

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If your performance falls way off' date=' and then you use TRT to recapture what you lost, that should be wrong. Yes, it's legal, but I say that's unethical.[/quote']

Further, any time a fighter goes on TRT, it makes me wonder if he has juiced in the past.

 

Also, I really don't care much about Hendo's Pride WW career. 185 has been a very thin weight division across MMA for quite some time, and is just now getting some depth in UFC. I'd say Hendo was hiding in lower weight GPs to avoid most of the 205ers in Pride at that time. Funny how he also avoided the Openweight GPs. (Just like to throw that out there, to all his bootlicking "anyone/anytime/anyweight" fans) Hendo's bragging rights from fighting at 185 are about as solid as Franklin's. Sure, you had a belt, but it's not like you had stiff competition.

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The loss to Shields' date=' and then the rebirth with TRT make me question his recent accomplishments.[/quote']

 

TRT certainly taints things a bit to me. Hendo, while awesome, is not the most accompalished fighter ever. Some of those achievments of his are good but his use of TRT really hurts it for me since I consider it cheating.

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Accomplished means notable wins,he has none.Even some of those wins he also lost to those same guys,so again nothing accomplished by splitting with average fighters.This division was and still is full of Pride fighters really just a bunch of average guys beating each other,does nothing for an accomplishment title.

He fought one guy that is a top level fighter [shield's] and got embarrassed by the MUCH smaller guy.Why do you think Hendo disrespected Shield's.it is because he KNOWS how bad that fight made him look and ruins his entire image.I could see if Hendo lost to a guy his own size and maybe via a LUCKY shot but Shield's wrestled him over an entire fight and Hendo just laid on his back like he had no clue how to get up.When you have NO clue how to fight off your back,i would say not only does that ruin your image,it proves he is a VERY over rated fighter.

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If your performance falls way off' date=' and then you use TRT to recapture what you lost, that should be wrong. Yes, it's legal, but I say that's unethical.[/quote']

 

is that known?...i dont know when he stated taking TRT and see if there was a increase in his fighting

 

Further' date=' any time a fighter goes on TRT, it makes me wonder if he has juiced in the past.

 

Also, I really don't care much about Hendo's Pride WW career. 185 has been a very thin weight division across MMA for quite some time, and is just now getting some depth in UFC. I'd say Hendo was hiding in lower weight GPs to avoid most of the 205ers in Pride at that time. Funny how he also avoided the Openweight GPs. (Just like to throw that out there, to all his bootlicking "anyone/anytime/anyweight" fans) Hendo's bragging rights from fighting at 185 are about as solid as Franklin's. Sure, you had a belt, but it's not like you had stiff competition.[/quote']

 

ur kidding?

 

pride WW,MW,HW were all deeper then the ufc at the time...and how can you say he was ducking the 205ers when he fought thier prime Wandy twice lol (to be fair one time wandy was not a champ but prob just as skilled)

 

hendo: "yah im going to duck those 205ers but hey i wanna fight the best one in the world right now twice but **** fighting those other guys"

 

also he fought the 205er 4 times in pride its not like he only fought wandy...he fought Wandy,Big Nog,Vitor,Bustamente....that 4 former champs in a weight classes above you...name me another fighter who has done that?...you cant cuz no one has done that

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now as usual on this forum ppl cant understand the base of this thread...imnot sayin hendo is the best fighter of all time...i would put Silva' date='Fedor,GSP ranked ahead of him

 

but no one those guys have a better list of accomplishments[/quote']

 

I do understand He got run out of the UFC the first time, and since he came back, he hasn't won a title. Couture has accomplished more then Hendo, Jones has accomplished more then Hendo, Anderson Silva has accomplished more then Hendo, Penn has accomplished more then Hendo, GSP has accomplished more then Hendo. Once Hendo lost to Anderson Silva and left the UFC, his accomplishments have to be taken in the perspective that since Silva is better then Hendo, that he could have also done what Hendo did.

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I do understand He got run out of the UFC the first time' date=' and since he came back, he hasn't won a title. Couture has accomplished more then Hendo, Jones has accomplished more then Hendo, Anderson Silva has accomplished more then Hendo, Penn has accomplished more then Hendo, GSP has accomplished more then Hendo. Once Hendo lost to Anderson Silva and left the UFC, his accomplishments have to be taken in the perspective that since Silva is better then Hendo, that he could have also done what Hendo did.[/quote']

 

No to almost everything in this post. :rolleyes:

 

Couture is debatable on list of accomplishments. But suggesting Jones is laughable.

 

The heavyweight that cuts obscene amounts of weight in order to fight as small opponents as he possibly can? Hendo has fought at Heavyweight and won, Chicken legs will get smashed as soon as he goes up there. It is also way to early in Jones career to claim something like this.

 

Anderson is probably the better fighter but he's only been the champion on one weight division in one organization. He also under performed in Pride so its up for debate.

 

GSP is laughable, another man who will not step into the octagon if he doesn't have a size advantage. Tapped to strikes. Say's he wants to wrestle in the olympics, never will but Hendo has.

 

Penn is a BAMF but not exactly rocking the same resume.

 

 

TL: DR- LOL STFU

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