jamamaw Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have always wanted them to ban elbows on the ground, and last night was a good reason why. Bones would throw his elbows just to cut. With banned elbows wrestlers would actually have to create some distance to throw some G'n'P. What do you guys think. And no I'm not a butthurt vitor fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i agree ban elbows, allow soccer kicks(not stomps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 nut kicks should also be legal Stann got kicked in the nuts and wasn't even affected Fighters just kick the other guy in the nuts so they can rest for a couple minutes, it really has no affect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have always wanted them to ban elbows on the ground' date=' and last night was a good reason why. Bones would throw his elbows just to cut. With banned elbows wrestlers would actually have to create some distance to throw some G'n'P. What do you guys think. And no I'm not a butthurt vitor fan [/quote'] Uhhh no... Don't allow a wrestler to sit in your guard and throw short elbows. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Uhhh no... Don't allow a wrestler to sit in your guard and throw short elbows. Problem solved. You could say the same thing about soccer kicks, knees to the head and low blows. "well don't let the guy low blow you" ""Don't allow the guy to knee you on the head when you are downed" "Don't let the guy stomp your face in" Some things are just purley cheap and need to be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 You could say the same thing about soccer kicks' date=' knees to the head and low blows. "well don't let the guy low blow you" ""Don't allow the guy to knee you on the head when you are downed" "Don't let the guy stomp your face in" Some things are just purley cheap and need to be banned[/quote'] All of those comments are valid though. Dictate the fight with your own gameplan and you won't have to fight out of reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 All of those comments are valid though. Dictate the fight with your own gameplan and you won't have to fight out of reaction. might as well make guns legal in the octagon!!! "Just dont let him shoot you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I've always thought that using the point of the elbow (12-6 rule) should be enforced more than it is. It can punch a hole in a guys skull. But using the forearm part of the elbow should remain legal. However, doing so in hopes of a bad cut does seem a bit barbaric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 might as well make guns legal in the octagon!!! "Just dont let him shoot you!" Again, nice rebuttal... The only people who make excuses are butthurt fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Again' date=' nice rebuttal... The only people who make excuses are butthurt fans.[/quote'] by your logic that statement is true as well....your logic is flawed....and retarded...hence the gif's.... and whos making excuses? were discussing topics of MMA, this is a Forum to discuss just that....o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasopasha Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i agree ban elbows' date=' allow soccer kicks(not stomps)[/quote'] this and also knees on the ground it would make north south and side control awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 this and also knees on the ground it would make north south and side control awesome yea i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 by your logic that statement is true as well....your logic is flawed....and retarded...hence the gif's.... and whos making excuses? were discussing topics of MMA' date=' this is a Forum to discuss just that....o.O[/quote'] Just... I.... I don't have time for this... /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Just... I.... I don't have time for this... /facepalm seriously, look at your claim....it follows the same logic pattern as my statement of the guns.....its a stupid statement no matter how you turn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 seriously' date=' look at your claim....it follows the same logic pattern as my statement of the guns.....its a stupid statement no matter how you turn it[/quote'] No... It doesn't. One is relevant, one is not. But seeing how you post in other threads its not very hard for me to realize you have no clue what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should ban punches too. It's clear that every time someone throws a bunch it's because they either want to bruise or cut their opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should ban punches too. It's clear that every time someone throws a bunch it's because they either want to bruise or cut their opponent. Ha! This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 No... It doesn't. One is relevant' date=' one is not[/b']. But seeing how you post in other threads its not very hard for me to realize you have no clue what you're talking about. wow, if your that dumb to even realize your wrong im sorry...and if your that hard headed to admit your wrong, im still sorry....your sad...smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 wow' date=' if your that dumb to even realize your wrong im sorry...and if your that hard headed to admit your wrong, im still sorry....your sad...smh[/quote'] You're champ. You're... Also, I'm not wrong. Bringing up a gun in MMA is COMPLETELY irrelevant. No matter how much your simple mind tries to rationalize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should allow finger pokes and ear biting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should allow finger pokes and ear biting!! Agreed, just no elbows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 You're champ. You're... Also' date=' I'm not wrong. Bringing up a gun in MMA is COMPLETELY irrelevant. No matter how much your simple mind tries to rationalize it.[/quote'] idgaf about grammar, not in english class bro.... but saying groin shots should be legal makes sense? eyepokes? biting? scratching? "just dont let them do it" right? seriously your mentally handicapped if you cannot see the stupidity of your logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRender Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Ban elbows?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayzee Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 But the problem is you would have to ban all elbows because they do the same damage when you are standing up are up against the fence. You would have to also ban kneeing, as they can do just as mush damage as the elbows. Holy ****, you would have to also ban submissions as they could kill someone. I think we already banned too many moves. No one has been killed yet keep the fights as real as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 But the problem is you would have to ban all elbows because they do the same damage when you are standing up are up against the fence. You would have to also ban kneeing' date=' as they can do just as mush damage as the elbows. Holy ****, you would have to also ban submissions as they could kill someone. I think we already banned too many moves. No one has been killed yet keep the fights as real as possible.[/quote'] i agree! lets add : headbutts scratching hair pulling eye gouging groin shots as real as it gets! also: elbows standing up/on the cage do not do same amount of dmg as on the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magerget Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Banning elbows? wow, that's really not a good idea... I'm with Rogan actually, they should bring back head butting as well, and kneeing a grounded opponent in the head (not a lying-on-the-ground, opponent, but take away the put-down-the-hand-strategy) should be allowed as well. Elbows are a big part of the ground game, it would change the sport and not for the better imo if they were banned. Fish-hooking, groinshots and stuff like that though, should stay banned... But that's just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemically_Enhanced Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have always wanted them to ban elbows on the ground' date=' and last night was a good reason why. Bones would throw his elbows just to cut. With banned elbows wrestlers would actually have to create some distance to throw some G'n'P. What do you guys think. And no I'm not a butthurt vitor fan [/quote'] I agree. They should also ban punches, kicks and the ability to take your opponent to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have the answer: Elbow pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should keep them and allow soccer kicks and stomps. I want to see mixed martial arts at its best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have the answer: Elbow pads. I thought of this as well. Seeing as they have padded gloves over the knuckles, would this not also make sense. The only problem is that anything strapped to your arm is going to probably give fighters severe arm-pump. It happens to me whenever I've tried using them while racing motocross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 They should ban punches too. It's clear that every time someone throws a bunch it's because they either want to bruise or cut their opponent. I can handle a nice debate, but if you can't see how there is a difference and see both sides of the argument, then there is no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 It isn't really about the brutality of the cut itself, it just allows Lay and Prayer's to not make any distance and throw a few short elbows to keep the fight on the ground. Everyone saying they should ban punches, kicks, and knees clearly don't understand what people who want elbows banned are talking about. It's about making a fighter create distance to land the Ground and pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckstars23 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I agree completely ground elbows ruin fights.. standing elbows can be ****ing amazing though weidmans ko over munoz was so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 It isn't really about the brutality of the cut itself' date=' it just allows Lay and Prayer's to not make any distance and throw a few short elbows to keep the fight on the ground. Everyone saying they should ban punches, kicks, and knees clearly don't understand what people who want elbows banned are talking about. It's about making a fighter create distance to land the Ground and pound.[/quote'] We should ban takedowns as well since they inevitably lead to ground elbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 We should ban takedowns as well since they inevitably lead to ground elbows. Ok i'll play. If elbows are banned there isn't a reason to ban take downs because they can't lead to elbows, because they are illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I think that if it takes skill to throw they should be allowed. I hate soccer kicks for example beacuse they're just that, soccer kicks, everybody can punt a guy in the head and knock him the **** out. However stomps in my opinion are ok, it's a move that requires athleticism and skill from the guy throwing it and in case he screws it up he can be dragged to the ground and put on some very dangerous positions. Elbows are fine beacuse if they were that good everybody would be throwing them and finishing with them, only a select few use them with efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSouthpaw Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Yeah I have to agree man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Ok i'll play. If elbows are banned there isn't a reason to ban take downs because they can't lead to elbows' date=' because they are illegal.[/quote'] Alright you got me there. But people get cut with punches, kicks, and knees, so they all must go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Make Jones wear elbow pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Make Jones wear elbow pads Make Silva wear boxing gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I wouldn't be opposed to then banning those short straight dropping elbows. i.e. you put your palm or forearm on someone's head and just dead drop your weight and elbow smash them from only a few inches away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark547 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I would really like to see kicks to the knee made illegal. I cringe every time I see it. I don't think Jones would be successful with out it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPride Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 those knee kicks seem to be unsportsmanlike - I mean imagine of someone caught an arm and hit the outside with a wing Chung palm strike and snapped it inwards at the bone? they'd be punished severely for it. It's in a similar scope to those knee kicks. It just has a nasty feel to it when u see it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 They should make you tie your arms behind your back and no kicking of any sort, only thing allowed would be two guys running full speed into each other, last man standing wins 50 dollars please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengu Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Ban elbows and bring in knees on the ground, elbows cause way too many cuts that can easily get fights stopped. Any bet Jones was targeting to land the elbows just above Vitor's eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Kicks and punches are not ment to cut your opponent. They are for trying to get a knock out. A lot of times elbows are just thrown for cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKWS75 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Kicks and punches are not ment to cut your opponent. They are for trying to get a knock out. A lot of times elbows are just thrown for cuts Go watch boxing or something, you can go piss an moan about a cut boxer and say that they need thicker gloves. This is FIGHTING, no ******* allowed :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Go watch boxing or something' date=' you can go piss an moan about a cut boxer and say that they need thicker gloves. This is FIGHTING, no ******* allowed :mad:[/quote'] lol the thing is some things like Soccer Kicks and knees to the head are banned, but elbows are not. they need to decide, either ban everything and make it a sport or unban everything and make it a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madvillain8 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 They should keep elbows in but add upkicks from the guard and remove the one hand on the mat rule so Jones can get his **** kicked in when he does that stupid three point stance. It's only fair and would even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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