JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Refer to poll, vote and then discuss your pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I wanna see a bit more of Glover, if his stand-up and Jitz is as good as Chuck and everyone else says, he could really pose some problems. Other than him, Vinny M may just have the best chance of beating him right now because his Jitz is on a whole other level to everyone else on that list. There would of course be the risk in the stand-up though, as he probably would rank last out of all the guys on the list in the stand-up department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Damn, I forgot to put Matt Hamill in the poll I would like to see Hamill vs Vinny Magalhaes next, what you thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Damn' date=' I forgot to put Matt Hamill in the poll I would like to see Hamill vs Vinny Magalhaes next, what you thinks?[/quote'] Jones gets to fight the winner for the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I said glover because by the sounds of it he is the most well rounded, he has obvious power and very lethal top game, if his defense is on a similar level that's my pick, via my isn't good enough standing to warrant him being the best chance because simply Jon won't let it get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Jones can't brawl and Hendo is the best at brawling. Not sure if he can avoid getting taken down but I'm going with Hendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chute_Boxe_Champion Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Jones can't brawl and Hendo is the best at brawling. Not sure if he can avoid getting taken down but I'm going with Hendo. Hendo is cool and all but he gasses fast, now you have to get close enough to land your h-bomb, jones will straight arm and avoid damage or clinch and trip, not to mention he constant attack of push kicks and in general lengthy distance strikes Hendo is too slow in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hendo is cool and all but he gasses fast' date=' now you have to get close enough to land your h-bomb, jones will straight arm and avoid damage or clinch and trip, not to mention he constant attack of push kicks and in general lengthy distance strikes Hendo is too slow in my opinion[/quote'] I agree, but he stands the best chance out of anyone imo. Shogun and Vitor don't have the wrestling, Rashad and Rampage don't have the aggression, Machida maybe... but tbh i don't think he has the knockout power necessary, most of the other up and coming guys aren't well rounded enough imo. Alex? He had trouble with Te Huna's wrestling, relies on his reach to win, Jones > Alex, who else? The true secret IMO is exploiting their gameplans. Jackson's get so gameplan specific that they aren't as well rounded and prepared for everything as they could be. Serra was a jiu jitsu guy, he trained exclusively boxing leading up to St. Pierre 1 in the blind hope that GSP would stand with him. It worked. I think the same thing happened yesterday. Vitor's wrestling was non existent. He had better wrestling in the Rumble fight then against Jones. His grappling was all jiu jitsu oriented from his back. Jones got caught off guard from it. Someone could do this, maybe someone who Jones thinks is going to strike with him, but they end up taking him down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magerget Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think Gustafssons boxing and movement could pose a real problem for Jones. And if his tdd and wrestling has gotten better, he has a real opportunity to take the belt imo. Gus hits hard, and often. Jones hasn't been challanged by that yet. Maybe by Machida, who has really crisp hands and counters, but Alex punches harder. If Gus KO's or TKO's Shogun, he should be the obvious choice for the #1 contenderstatus... Not like that's a cakewalk, but I think it's absolutley possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengu Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Still think Lyoto has a good shot, Vinny can also get a submission but he would need to pull guard. Forget trying to take Jones down-just pull guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yo enigma, Gus has been wrestling with Phil Davis for a year now, so i think with him being so young his wrestling game will have caught up. He has always had solid striking and BJJ, so the Shogun fight will show where he is at... But i think he is gonna shock a few people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 For thosewho say Hendo, my issue with him is that less skilled wrestlers have taken him down and the smaller Anderson Silva choked him out. I dont think he has the bottom game of Vitor to stop those elbows either. Only shot he has got is if he is prepared to blitz Jones and catch him, but even Vitor failed to unload on him so it makes u doubt Hendo would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Damn' date=' I forgot to put Matt Hamill in the poll I would like to see Hamill vs Vinny Magalhaes next, what you thinks?[/quote'] Jones gets to fight the winner for the title Lol. With Jones potentially out for a few months i think that the unconfirmed Machida vs. Hendo fight will be the title eliminator with Shogun vs Gus being up there too. Will be interesting to see who Glover faces next should he get past Maldonado, Rampage still seems keen to face him although im still desperate for Rampage vs Shogun :cool: Rashad is waiting for a match-up right now too, i heard he wants Machida but i cant see that happening unless Hendo goes straight into a fight with JBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengu Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yo enigma' date=' Gus has been wrestling with Phil Davis for a year now, so i think with him being so young his wrestling game will have caught up. He has always had solid striking and BJJ, so the Shogun fight will show where he is at... But i think he is gonna shock a few people![/quote'] Bro to be fair Davis isn't the best wrestler in the LHW div, was taken down by Evans and Jones has a complete different style of wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Bro to be fair Davis isn't the best wrestler in the LHW div' date=' was taken down by Evans and Jones has a complete different style of wrestling.[/quote'] True, but apart from Jones and Evans, there isnt anyone in the division as good as Davis is there? Gus having trained with a good wrestler like Davis for a year now should mean that he has far better TD defence and offensive wrestling. This coupled with his far better striking and BJJ than Davis could mean a very dangerous opponent for Jones in Gus.... It is of course theoretical at the moment, but the Shogun fight will give us a very good indication of where Gus is at right now. His height/length would pose an interesting match-up with Jones if he can either defend the TD or be offensive vitor style off his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharasha Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 everyone seems to have completely forgotten about Phil Davis? The guy was on a tear before the Rashad loss (which I put down to inexperience). In a year or two this guy gonna be a monster. and didnt he finish Gus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 everyone seems to have completely forgotten about Phil Davis? The guy was on a tear before the Rashad loss (which I put down to inexperience). In a year or two this guy gonna be a monster. and didnt he finish Gus? He choked Gus out after wearing him down with his smothering wrestling style, as Gus had pretty basic wrestling skills back then. He has since been training WITH Davis to improve his wrestling. The problem with Phil Davis is that his stand-up is woeful in comparison to the divisions best. Evans also exposed his wrestling as not being as great as we first thought anyway, although Evans tbh is one of the best MMA wrestlers in the game today! Davis also looked bad in the minute we got to see him against Prado in August, Prado looked like he was gonna take his head off before the eye-poke! Who knows, a convincing win for Davis over Prado in October could propell him back into the 205 conversation again, but its gonna take a few wins for him to really recover coz Evans really did dominate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judd92 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Someone on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Someone on this forum. Exactly, Vinny M :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
||LastManStanding|| Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Gustafsson is basically a poor man's Jon Jones. Before the Vitor fight I wouldn't have given A Silva much of a chance but I'm starting to believe he could give Jones some serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker_Kid Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vinny Magalhaes. Lyoto Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyUK Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 bumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Dammit i voted Gustoff before i saw VinnyMegalanbelcher via Rousey. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6XStringz Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I"ll say Lyoto cause I haven't seen Gustaf fight a top 5 guy in the division. But I believe Gustaf has the tools to beat him. We would just have to see how much he sharpened those tools and if he brought them and utilized them properly to a fight with JBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Someone on this forum. Tim Hague coming for that mother****er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 machida / gustaffson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madvillain8 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Does anybody else think that Glover is a 205 JDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBJF Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Matt Mitrione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoneybadger1406053351 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Tim Sylvia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Jones took Vitor down beacuse he was confident he could dominate him there (which he did even with a screwed up arm). He would never take Vinny or one of those other BJJ wizards down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman20 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 CHEAL SONNEN DOES YOU RACIST :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 how is alex leading this poll ??? his striking is good but still not great! his wrestling is crappy as **** !! he would get dominated, cut up, and submitted or tko'd by jones total domination by jones.. please explain how he has a chance ??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 how is alex leading this poll ??? his striking is good but still not great! his wrestling is crappy as **** !! he would get dominated' date=' cut up, and submitted or tko'd by jones total domination by jones.. please explain how he has a chance ???????????[/quote'] This^^ Glover is a stud from what I've heard the pros say, but he still needs to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I can almost bet we'll never see JBJ in that position ever again. At least not in the LHW division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 This^^ Glover is a stud from what I've heard the pros say' date=' but he still needs to prove himself.[/quote'] lol we dont agree often but i also agree. glover hasnt done **** to prove himself till now beating kingsbury doesnt tell much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Does anybody else think that Glover is a 205 JDS? Hell no. Glover's has an aggressive in your face standup that consist of a very repetitive heavy left hook and straight/overhand right combination an an occassional kick but he's really most dangerous on the ground and he will look to take it there if he can unlike JDS. They are really not that much alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Mousasi Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Mousasi /endthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 After doing some reading on Vinny Magalhaes' mma record, this is the kind of aggressive submission specialist that could really exploit Jones' weakness. The guy does flying armbars! I posted this pic on the Celebrity Look Alikes thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 After the Vitor fight I'd like to see him fight Werdum at HW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vitor rematch is the only fight I want to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon1406052403 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Sonnen, if he could get Jones down.... interesting And from the list, Machida. He has a OK chance of beating Jones (did well the first time, until he got murdered...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 After the Vitor fight I'd like to see him fight Werdum at HW. Vinny Magalhaes won the 2011 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship by beating Fabricio Werdum in the finals. I believe Vinny is the best bet for beating Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vinny Magalhaes won the 2011 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship by beating Fabricio Werdum in the finals. I believe he is the best bet for beating Jones. Yeah, but he's too small for Jones and he'd get TKO'd first. Werdum would be a good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipso_facto Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah' date=' but he's too small for Jones and he'd get TKO'd first. Werdum would be a good fight.[/quote'] Vinny is so good at submissions, he could very well take Jones by simply pulling-guard right from the start (with little or no stand-up even involved). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 A chance to beat Jones.....top level HW fighter A chance to beat Silva....top level LHW fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vinny is so good at submissions' date=' he could very well take Jones by simply pulling-guard right from the start (with little or no stand-up even involved).[/quote'] Well I hope it happens anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah' date=' but he's too small for Jones and he'd get TKO'd first. Werdum would be a good fight.[/quote'] Vinny is so good at submissions' date=' he could very well take Jones by simply pulling-guard right from the start (with little or no stand-up even involved).[/quote'] Agreed but that could happen too. Only one way to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wesley_of_Wells Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Someone on this forum. Alan Belcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Alan Belcher. No Vinny Magalanbelcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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