Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Here it is. We've been on here complaining for a few hours and the whole MMA world is in an uproar. Good read: http://www.mmamania.com/2012/10/16/3513108/jon-jones-versus-chael-sonnen-for-tuf-17-reeks-of-desperation This sums it up nicely... In terms of pay-per-view draws, both Jones and Sonnen are likely top five. Jones for his incredible in-cage ability and Sonnen for his spectacular talents outside the cage, brazenly confident with his words and being the ultimate entertainer. That being said, this move reeks of desperation. Dana White has time and time again defended the UFC by stating that they get the best fighters in the world to fight each other. This move, hands down, is not the case. Maybe on short notice, a fight like Anderson Silva vs. Stephan Bonnar or Vitor Belfort vs. Jon Jones makes sense as an emergency fill-in, but this is unacceptable. Instead of a short notice replacement, this fight will get a solid six months of build-time. Chael Sonnen does not deserve a title shot of this magnitude. Not even close. LOL at getting a title shot based on words that come out of his mouth..... and Discuss. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Inb4Danasaysallpeoplecomplainingareidiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jon Jones will be in an environment filled with alcohol. Jones' past complications with alcohol and pedophilia makes the UFC look bad. Jones is also undeserving of a fight with Chael. The UFC dun goof'd on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Inb4Danasaysallpeoplecomplainingareidiots lol, yet the main idiot made the idiotic fight. Sorry Dana. Oh wait, nevermind, you're on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 lol' date=' yet the main idiot made the idiotic fight. Sorry Dana. Oh wait, nevermind, you're on Twitter.[/quote'] I honestly would respect him a lot if he just came out and said: "You know what? Yeah, we're struggling with TUF and need to keep it entertaining so we did this." I bet however he's going to somehow try and legitimize this ridiculous decision... I also bet he'll use that same old excuse of males between 18-34 thing, like that means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz2990 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Fight makes sence only on one week notice when an event is about to be cancelled ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 dana will make the arguement that the fans asked for it first it was to save the ****ing event, this is ******** and a waste of time should have made machida/sonnen and had hendo fight jones.... **** Zuffa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I honestly would respect him a lot if he just came out and said: "You know what? Yeah' date=' we're struggling with TUF and need to keep it entertaining so we did this." I bet however he's going to somehow try and legitimize this ridiculous decision... I also bet he'll use that same old excuse of males between 18-34 thing, like that means something.[/quote'] They could have kept Chael as the entertaining coach without giving him an undeserving title shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 They could have kept Chael as the entertaining coach without giving him an undeserving title shot. if Dan Henderson was a coach he would have brought Chael in....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well, it really does seem like Jones is here to stay as champ. So I don't see what the problem is fattening him up with entertaining fights between meaningful defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan369 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The reason the TUF struggles for ratings is because it is on a Friday night at 10pm. Who in the hell would stay in on a Friday just to watch. They need to move the show to another night if they want better ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 They could have kept Chael as the entertaining coach without giving him an undeserving title shot. Yeah, Rampage vs Sonnen would be good... If that couldn't happen beacuse Page wants to leave have him against someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why the **** was my thread merged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 if Dan Henderson was a coach he would have brought Chael in....... I'd find it hilarious if Chael somehow beat Jones and Hendo beat Machida.....I'd love to see Sonnen vs Hendo. lol Well' date=' it really does seem like Jones is here to stay as champ. So I don't see what the problem is fattening him up with entertaining fights between meaningful defenses.[/quote'] And this, ladies and gentlemen is relative of why lots of haters refer to Anderson Silva as a can-crusher. Welcome to the can crushing era, Jon Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jon Jones vs Chael Sonnen for TUF 17 Sets a Horrible Precedent Jon Jones will be in an environment filled with alcohol. Jones' past complications with alcohol and pedophilia makes the UFC look bad. Jones is also undeserving of a fight with Chael. The UFC dun goof'd on this one. Don't merge this thread, it isn't the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma_Machine Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why the **** was my thread merged? Mad gay yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why the **** was my thread merged? Because I made it exactly 3 minutes before you did....and arguably, did it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The coaches don't live in the house.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why would you make this thread a 2nd time, when I made the original one before you did your first one? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why would you make this thread a 2nd time' date=' when I made the original one before you did your first one? lol[/quote'] Mine was merged unjustifiably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangasm Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jon Jones vs Chael Sonnen for TUF 17 Sets a Horrible PrecedentJon Jones will be in an environment filled with alcohol. Jones' past complications with alcohol and pedophilia makes the UFC look bad. Jones is also undeserving of a fight with Chael. The UFC dun goof'd on this one. Don't merge this thread' date=' it isn't the same one.[/quote'] die in a fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The coaches don't live in the house.. Jon Jones lives wherever there is more alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Mine was merged unjustifiably. Sorry, I'm not a mod....and the mod said it was "mad gay yo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jon Jones lives wherever there is more alcohol. Now we know where to find Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 die in a fire Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jon Jones lives wherever there is more alcohol. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Sorry' date=' I'm not a mod....and the mod said it was "mad gay yo".[/quote'] I believe he meant it was mad gay yo that it got merged. Should have remained independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I believe he meant it was mad gay yo that it got merged. Should have remained independent. I don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Interesting TV, but Sonnen still doesn't deserve a title shot, losing his last fight in a lower weight class. This fight only made sense when they needed someone at a day's notice, now they can pick anyone from a whole division, and they pick a guy that hasn't fought at 205 in over 5 years? Intradasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidStateLogic Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 stupid fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Will Jones' have to wear an ankle bracelet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 At first I was angry....then I realized why not....they padded Silva's record to rack up wins.....they are gonna do the same to JBJ...give him a few easy ones to rack up the wins. It is still ridiculous!:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 At the same time everyone is complaining, they are already working on a good script for the show AND the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbo Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does anyone actually care to see this? Jones is an amazing fighter but it's due to his athleticism (not a knock on him) and you can't teach someone that. Not to mention people wanted Jones vs Sonnen to save 151, does anyone really want to see this now? I would much rather Jones was paired with a top 5 LHW. Hell could have Shogun and Jones coach and just so Shogun can win something they could have the coaches challenge be a pie eatting contest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does anyone actually care to see this? Jones is an amazing fighter but it's due to his athleticism (not a knock on him) and you can't teach someone that. Not to mention people wanted Jones vs Sonnen to save 151' date=' does anyone really want to see this now? I would much rather Jones was paired with a top 5 LHW. Hell could have Shogun and Jones coach and just so Shogun can win something they could have the coaches challenge be a pie eatting contest[/quote'] Jones only eats 15 year old pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jones only eats 15 year old pie. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNMEfighter Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Good for them. Who cares who deserves a title shot anymore. These 2 will be a good fight for sure. And you all know you're not going to miss it. Mission accomplished by Dana right there. As far as I'm concerned, grudge fights are way more exciting than most other fights anyway. Now as far as TUF goes, I think the appeal is becoming more about the coaches than the guys trying to make it to the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderleisilva101 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jones only eats 15 year old pie. Haha win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 5 thread star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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