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The question surfaced the moment Daniel Cormier finished pounding out a bloodied and stunned Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva in Strikeforce's heavyweight grand prix. When Cormier, a former Olympian and rare blue-chip heavyweight prospect, eventually made his way to the UFC, what would happen if his good friend and training partner, Cain Velasquez, was the reigning champion?

 

For a time, both Cormier and Velasquez simply shrugged off the question, not wanting to entertain an uncomfortable situation before it became a reality. However, after Cormier solidified his top-5 ranking with an unmitigated rag-dolling of Josh Barnett, a fallback plan to curb the match-up between training partners became an increased necessity.

 

So, the way Cormier saw it, what better way to make a big splash than by calling out one of the faces of the UFC?

 

"I think he wants to drop down [to light heavyweight]," Velasquez said of Cormier between bites of chicken at a recent media luncheon. "He's been wanting that fight with Jon Jones for a while now. We've definitely talked about it. [When] he does come into the UFC, he can make 205 [pounds]."

 

Cormier has called out Jones numerous times in recent weeks, even challenging the light heavyweight kingpin to a season on The Ultimate Fighter. Jones publicly acknowledged that while he'd be open to a coaching spot on TUF, it wouldn't be against Cormier, who he dismissively referred to as a "relative unknown."

 

Former middleweight contender Chael Sonnen ultimately landed the TUF gig opposite Jones, leaving a slighted Cormier with a bitter taste in his mouth.

 

"It eats at him a little bit," Velasquez said of his friend.

 

"You being the champ, I believe, my opinion, is you don't have a say in who you fight. The No. 1 guy is the No. 1 guy. Whatever. You need to take on all challenges."

 

Regardless, the whole discussion is moot if Cormier, who weighed-in at 238 pounds for his fight against Barnett, is unable to healthily trim his body down to the 205-pound light heavyweight limit.

 

Cormier was team captain of the United States' 2008 Olympic wrestling team, competing at 96 kilograms (roughly 212 pounds), until he infamously withdrew prior to competition when an incident cutting weight led to severe kidney failure, which ultimately ended his amateur wrestling career. Since then Cormier has been understandably hesitant to resort back to cutting weight.

 

According to Velasquez, while it won't be easy, the pair's team at San Jose's American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) has faith Cormier will be able to drop the weight in a healthy, non-threatening manner.

 

"He's heavy right now," admitted Velasquez. "He's like 240 [pounds] right now.

 

"But, you know, we'll clean up his diet really good, because the way his diet is, it isn't the cleanest. He's going to have to work a little bit at it, for sure. He just has to do it smart. The diet needs to be on-point. He can't be messing around with that kind of stuff. I think he can do it."

 

If everything works out, and Cormier successfully cuts down and secures his fight against Jones, Velsaquez has no doubts about the result.

 

"He'd beat him," vowed the admittedly biased former champ. "He's fast. He's powerful. He has the best wrestling out there. I think he beats him wherever they're at."

 

As for a future match-up between training AKA partners, the 30-year-old Velasquez unsurprisingly reiterated that fight fans probably shouldn't hold their breath.

 

"I've said this before, if you want to see us fight, come Monday, Wednesday or Friday into the gym. You'll see us fight for free."

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I'd like to see Cormier actually debut in the UFC before a title fight is given, even if he leaves as the champ of SF.

 

Velasquez I think could make 205 and have a very strong run at the division, the thing is with heavyweights that are lighter like Cormier and Velasquez is, just like Crop Cop, they believe their speed gives them the advantage against the bigger guys, but once you start to age the speed diminishes and they can't deal with the power of bigger guys. Crop Cop learned that the hard way and I feel that V and Daniel C will too along with every HW under 245. Unless you're built like Overeem and Kongo and literally can't cut below 225 you shouldn't be fighting HW. Yea im talking about you too Roy Nelson.

 

The weight limit is 265 and thats what all HW's should strive for. Typically if your walking around at 235 you're either just too lazy to trim the fat or you literally can't go under because you're a walking stack of muscle like Kongo.

 

Just saying you never see light heavyweights weighing in at 190 for a fight simply because they think its a speed advantage.

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There's something about Cormier that intrigues me. I think he is a stud, and only a couple fighters have a chance at beating him at lhw/hw. JDS, Overeem, Jones, Silva (at 205) are the only ones I see with the skills to beat Cormier. It's a toss up tho....

 

Cormiers striking is/was improving at an alarming rate, and his wrestling is second to none. He was the captain of the US Olympic team for peets sake!

 

I can't wait to see him fight one of the aforementioned guys!

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I heard somewhere that Bones at a UFC event actually went up to DC and asked him if was going to cut down to 205. Bones knows DC is a serious threat to take his title probably the only one at the moment.

 

If Cormier can't put Jones on his back, then no one can. Sonnen was an alternate for the US Olympic team, Cormier was their captain. (different years/teams tho)

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Cormier is LEGIT

 

Wrestling credentials:

 

Gold in US. Championships 8 years in a row, then CAPTAIN of the U.S. Olympic team. Did not compete due to kidney failure, but had a very legitimate chance of winning gold

 

MMA credentials:

 

Strikeforce HW grand prix champion and undefeated

 

 

 

 

All that being said...he's still a massive underdog against Jones. This is MMA and Jones is the p4p number 1 on the planet...Cormier has all the potential in the world, but we've seen this will many people in MMA before (super talented in one facet, but not able to be a UFC champ). I see this being a close match though because Cormier wouldn't be easy to beat...but I just think Jones would be much too dynamic of a striker, and a good enough wrestler to neutralize Cormier's one advantage

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The only guy who could legitimately have a shot at Bones is Machida...stylistically he just matches up great (knows how to control distance so he could avoid Jones' reach) and Machida is probably the number 2 guy in LHW anyways. Second best shot at Jones is Gus. Third I'd say is Cormier. Fourth probably Rashad. After that, everyone is an extreme long shot

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Cormier is LEGIT

 

Wrestling credentials:

 

Gold in US. Championships 8 years in a row' date=' then CAPTAIN of the U.S. Olympic team. Did not compete due to kidney failure, but had a very legitimate chance of winning gold

 

MMA credentials:

 

Strikeforce HW grand prix champion and undefeated

 

 

 

 

All that being said...he's still a massive underdog against Jones. [b'] This is MMA and Jones is the p4p number 1 on the planet[/b]...Cormier has all the potential in the world, but we've seen this will many people in MMA before (super talented in one facet, but not able to be a UFC champ). I see this being a close match though because Cormier wouldn't be easy to beat...but I just think Jones would be much too dynamic of a striker, and a good enough wrestler to neutralize Cormier's one advantage

 

No way is he higher on the p4p list than Silva, and you could even argue Hendo( seeing how he has fought at multiple weight classes.)

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No way is he higher on the p4p list than Silva' date=' and you could even argue Hendo( seeing how he has fought at multiple weight classes.)[/quote']

 

Hendo!?! Come on, man

 

The way I see p4p is that it refers to CURRENT ABILITY. It has nothing to do with how many weight classes someone fought in, it's more about how well they are currently able to fight proportional to other fighters in their weight class

 

That being said, it's subjective so I can't fault you at all for saying Jones shouldn't be number 1. Everyone has a different opinion who is number 1. Just a fun topic to discuss....I don't take it too serious because no one knows for sure who the best fighter is if every fighter weight the same because it's all hypothetical

 

 

 

If I had to guess, I'd say...

 

1. jones

2. silva

3. gsp

4. aldo

5. jds

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The only guy who could legitimately have a shot at Bones is Machida...stylistically he just matches up great (knows how to control distance so he could avoid Jones' reach) and Machida is probably the number 2 guy in LHW anyways. Second best shot at Jones is Gus. Third I'd say is Cormier. Fourth probably Rashad. After that' date=' everyone is an extreme long shot[/quote']

 

Machida will not beat Bones. I say Cormier would have the best shot then Gus.

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Machida will not beat Bones. I say Cormier would have the best shot then Gus.

 

Why would you give Cormier a better shot than Machida? Is it his weight advantage (Cormier would probably weigh 235 at fight time while Machida would probably weight 202-ish) or more due to the fact that Cormier is more of an unknown

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Why would you give Cormier a better shot than Machida? Is it his weight advantage (Cormier would probably weigh 235 at fight time while Machida would probably weight 202-ish) or more due to the fact that Cormier is more of an unknown

 

How could you think Machida would beat him did you not watch the first fight? You think Machida would be able to duplicate what he did in the first round for 5 rounds because I don't. Bones figured him out in the second round Bones would probably finish him sooner in a rematch. I think Cormiers wrestling is what wins him the fight which is the best in all of MMA. He will take Bones down and he has some good GNP as well just look at what he did to Barnett. Also his stand up is improving as well.

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