BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Ok guys this is a great fight I think...two big,strong guys who wanna crack the top 10 and need a win Who do you have winning...and who should the winner fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wesley_of_Wells Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I really like this matchup. Well done, Joe Silva! I think Lombard will take it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Harris pulls off a crazy sub. The winner should get the Bisping/Belfort loser (if that fight actually happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderleisilva101 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yeah great fight I'm a fan of both and don't want either to lose tbh but I think it ends 1st round no matter who wins, Palhares might catch a leg but I'm thinking Lombard KTFO him before then. Lombard KO round 1 and fairweather fans jump straight back on the wagon again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I really like this matchup. Well done' date=' Joe Silva! I think Lombard will take it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Harris pulls off a crazy sub. The winner should get the Bisping/Belfort loser (if that fight actually happens).[/quote'] Bisping and vitor are both top 5ers and the loser would drop no further then 7th I would think and to have a guy (winner of Palhares/Lombard) who maybe just broke the top 10 fight him I think would be bad match making....give him a brian Stann at the lowest/a mark okami at the highest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Crack the top 10? Both are already in the top 10' date=' bro.[/quote'] What?...no...be4 Lombard lost he was 11th...why would he move up with a lose...and Palhares was around that be4 his lost aswell? Non order top11 Silva Vitor Munoz Boescth Munoz Weidman Stann Okami Belcher Bisping Rockhold Justify in detail which of those guys (total of 3) BOTH Palhares and Lombard are ranked over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wesley_of_Wells Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Bisping and vitor are both top 5ers and the loser would drop no further then 7th I would think and to have a guy (winner of Palhares/Lombard) who maybe just broke the top 10 fight him I think would be bad match making....give him a brian Stann at the lowest/a mark okami at the highest Stann loses to both guys and Okami will lose to Belcher this time. Munoz could be good if he gets a win by then. Maybe Munoz vs. Stann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmenMMA Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Palhares has no heart, Lombard by TKO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Lombard is a Judoka Judoka;s do not practice/use leg locks, its an illegal move, and lombard is pretty flat footed, he could get caught in a leglock could be interesting to see how well Lombard is prepared. I think Lombard will take this though, he just had a bad fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Palhares has no braincells' date=' Lombard by TKO.[/quote'] fixed....I think that's what you ment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Lombard is a Judoka Judoka;s do not practice/use leg locks' date=' its an illegal move, and lombard is pretty flat footed, he could get caught in a leglock could be interesting to see how well Lombard is prepared. I think Lombard will take this though, he just had a bad fight.[/quote'] This is very true...but he also trains with two gums that are Bjj/submission wrestling(manly catch-can) which both have leg locks so I do think he will be prepaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 First of all' date=' you counted Munoz twice. I've been calling Munoz overrated for years and we'll finally get to see it in the future. He's gotten so many gift decisions it's not even funny. And the first time he went up against a top guy he got KTFO. Munoz is top 10 right now, but not top 5. And Rockhold doesn't deserve to be in the top 10. The only guy I can remember him facing is Jardine. (which isn't a good thing) Until he comes over to the UFC and fights top 15 - 20 guys consistently, he doesn't deserve to be on the list. Palhares despite some set-backs has been tearing it up with finishes. Another loss would probably boot him from a top spot in the MW division, but as of right now he's still ranked fairly high. As for Lombard, Weidman in no way "beat" him. That fight shouldn't even be taken into consideration when placing Lombard in the division. Boetsch point fought similar to Condit and should be ashamed of himself. TLDR; Take 1 f the Munoz's and Rockhold off your list and put in Palhares and Lombard.[/quote'] My bad I put Munoz twice...but I'm talking in facts here...not who I think is better Facts are Munoz has 2 top 10 wins and Lombard has NO TOP 25 WINS IN THE PASS 5 YEARS...that's fact look it up...I'm bout to bump my thread where I talked bout this Also Rockhold has one top 10 win in Jacare...this also is a fact...more then both Palhares and Lombard....also Rockhold is the champ of a better Org with better fighters in its divison...you can't justify Lombard being ranked higher when Rockhold has faced and beat better people So no...those two guys (Rockhold,Munoz) have to stay top ten....also you said Munoz if a top ten guy earlier in your post...you cant really think Lombard is as high as #8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 lombard sucks, who cares if he scrapes into the top 10 or not he still needs to prove himself. His last fight was appalling and im annoyed at all the nut huggers that hyped him so much only for me to be extremely let down come fight night. i think palhares should be an easy win for him since his TDD is great and he has heavy hands vs palhares with no real technical standup. But lomtard could suprise us all by getting subbed in the first minute and proving to us all hes a can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Let's say we're talking UFC only' date=' since we're never going to agree on Rockhold. If you take the extra Munoz out, would they both be top 10?[/quote'] No lol...I listed 11 (Munoz twice and Rockhold)...if you take out one Munoz (cuz of my mistake and the otherone stays cuz you even said Munoz is top 10) and one Rockhold thatvleave 9 fighters not 8 Also there is no reason to take out Rockhold...why would you take him out...he has a top 10 win and both Palhares and Lombard have non (that is a ranking fact) and also Lombard has NO TOP 25 WINS which Rockhold has 2 Rockhold resume in the last 5 years > Lombards resume in the last 5 years There is mo debating that....also Sf has the better MW roster then Bellator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 lombard sucks' date=' who cares if he scrapes into the top 10 or not he still needs to prove himself. His last fight was appalling and im annoyed at all the nut huggers that hyped him so much only for me to be extremely let down come fight night. i think palhares should be an easy win for him since his TDD is great and he has heavy hands vs palhares with no real technical standup. But lomtard could suprise us all by getting subbed in the first minute and proving to us all hes a can.[/quote'] Lombard is still a killer...sure he's not 10...but he is still a good fighter...if given the chance I think he could beat a few top 10 guys (Stann,okami maybe,Munoz maybe)....problem is Boescth is also really good and underrated...he beat a perennial top 5 guy in okami right after he just got a title shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Who do you think would win if Rockhold fought Lombard? I don't think Rockhold would be able to compete with him TBH. rockhold is a very solid fighter, his TDD is great and his standup is well rounded. I think he would beat alot of the Top 10 guys in the UFC bisping included. Against lombard i think rockhold could beat him, his leg kicks are much better than boetsch and he has just as much of a gas tank he could easily out point strike him if he wanted. Also has a solid chin to but it wouldnt be smart gonig toe to toe with lombard in a striking matchup but ya never know rockhold could come out on top there to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 - Anderson Silva - Lombard - Weidman - Bisping - Belcher - Belfort - Munoz - Carmont - Stann - Boetsch - Sonnen (still counts) - Palhares, - Shields - Franklin - Okami - Rockhold (even though I think he sucks) - Moussasi - Jacare Souza list of top MWers MW is stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Who do you think would win if Rockhold fought Lombard? I don't think Rockhold would be able to compete with him TBH. Lombard would win I would think But even though I think that I'm not going to be biased when it comes to ranking...thats just me Ranking are fact based Skill level is not Rankings: Rockhold > Lombard Skill level: Lombard > Rockhold That's how I see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 rockhold is pretty overrated, wouldn't cut top 5 in the ufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 tims win over okami had alot to do with luck, he was loosing every second of that fight until he rocked okami. boetsch performance wasnt entetaining against lombard it was boring, but it showed a huge whole in lombards fighting style, he doesnt move very much and any fighter with good kicks and a gas tank can beat him. rockhold would have a better chance of exploiting that weakness than boetsch did. rockhold is a top 10 and would be in the ufc, but i doubt he would be top 5. i think he has the skill thoguh to beat... okami, boetsch, bisping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I think Lombard will take it but i want Toquinho to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Lombard is a Judoka Judoka;s do not practice/use leg locks' date=' its an illegal move, and lombard is pretty flat footed, he could get caught in a leglock could be interesting to see how well Lombard is prepared. I think Lombard will take this though, he just had a bad fight.[/quote'] Trust me he trains leglocks anyone in mma does and especially anyone that was coached by Erik Paulson for as long as he was does and if he's facing Palhares you better believe he'll amp that part of his game up a few notches and look for ways to avoid it all together. He also has toehold win on his record from 2005 and broke someones leg in a grappling tourney in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 What?...no...be4 Lombard lost he was 11th...why would he move up with a lose...and Palhares was around that be4 his lost aswell? Non order top11 Silva Vitor Munoz Boescth Weidman Stann Okami Belcher Bisping Rockhold Justify in detail which of those guys (total of 3) BOTH Palhares and Lombard are ranked over them WTF!!! First off You have Weidman below Munoz (Munoz #3??? LMAO!!!), Munoz got DOMINATED by Weidman. You also have Boetsch above Weidman which is questionable at best. You have Stann above Bisping? Really? First off Bisping has already beaten Stann, and he got completely dominated by Sonnen and has lost 2 of his last 3 fights. Stann in the top 6? Yeah, that makes your rankings credible. Having Belcher, Okami, Stann, above Bisping I do not buy for one second. Silva Weidman Bisping Belfort Boesch Munoz Okami Rockhold Belcher Stann That's more about how I'd rank em. With that said, I expect Lombard can take Palhares, butcha never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa80teur Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 WTF!!! First off You have Weidman below Munoz (Munoz #3??? LMAO!!!)' date=' Munoz got DOMINATED by Weidman. You also have Boetsch above Weidman which is questionable at best. You have Stann above Bisping? Really? First off Bisping has already beaten Stann, and he got completely dominated by Sonnen and has lost 2 of his last 3 fights. Stann in the top 6? Yeah, that makes your rankings credible. Having Belcher, Okami, Stann, above Bisping I do not buy for one second. Silva Weidman Bisping Belfort Boesch Munoz Okami Rockhold Belcher Stann That's more about how I'd rank em. With that said, I expect Lombard can take Palhares, butcha never know.[/quote'] he wrote "Non order top11" right before the list so undered best 11 fighters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 he wrote "Non order top11" right before the list so undered best 11 fighters? Ah, my eyes migrated right past that part, so now it makes a little more sense lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallStuff Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 What?...no...be4 Lombard lost he was 11th...why would he move up with a lose...and Palhares was around that be4 his lost aswell? Non order top11 Silva Vitor Munoz Boescth Munoz Weidman Stann Okami Belcher Bisping Rockhold Justify in detail which of those guys (total of 3) BOTH Palhares and Lombard are ranked over them Let's keep the names relevant now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Let's keep the names relevant now. Zuffa Zombies are out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wesley_of_Wells Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Zuffa Zombies are out Rockhold fights for Zuffa-owned Strikeforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Bumpage I'm starting to lean to Lombard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I dont see how Lombard loses this fight. Paul Harris is a one trick pony and I doubt he ever gets another leg lock on another top 15 opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I dont see how Lombard loses this fight. Paul Harris is a one trick pony and I doubt he ever gets another leg lock on another top 15 opponent. He's got other subs...he's just too dumb to use them lol I would assume Lombard has some good sub d since he works with Erik paulson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Also this fight should have been the main event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Lombard is a Judoka Judoka;s do not practice/use leg locks' date=' its an illegal move, and lombard is pretty flat footed, he could get caught in a leglock could be interesting to see how well Lombard is prepared. I think Lombard will take this though, he just had a bad fight.[/quote'] Lombard has submission wins by leglock and his go-to submissions are leg locks and armbars actually. Lombard doesn't have much leg to lock though, I have a hard time seeing Palhares winning that way, maybe a choke however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 looks like a gimme fight for lombard, palhares isnt going to submit lombard and his striking is terrible. Trying to salvage their ex prospect here it seems by giving him the easiest matchup vs his skill set possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Lombard should have this. If he doesn't win I will be dissapoint. although Judokas dont practice leg locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Bump who yall got baby Going to be a good fight I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaksame Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if all those who disrespected Hector after his first fight are still talking him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if all those who disrespected Hector after his first fight are still talking him down? What you mean....most of the stuff said bout him was called for No top 10 wins No top 25 wins (going into that fight) Lost to Tim Was not ranked top 10 What was wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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