B_radly1406052482 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I said it months ago... It's coming. Exposing Mormonism for what is really is, or at least at it's most secretive core, will sling enough mud on Mitt to give Barry the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Oddly enough, I think the way he conducts himself in such a noble way greatly reflect many of the morals & values most of us share - you know, unlike that fake christian guy who peddles moral equivalency & hate....the one who currently holds office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Are the Christian right fully behind Romney despite his being Mormon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_told_you_so Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Prediction: There will be another 50 separate threads about the elections by midnight and still nothing will have been settled just people repeating the same old crap over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 yeah, why not? Its not like the other guy is a real christian or anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Prediction: There will be another 50 separate threads about the elections by midnight and still nothing will have been settled just people repeating the same old crap over and over. +1 though I'd say your being quite conservative in your estimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Are the Christian right fully behind Romney despite his being Mormon? Judging by the fact that birthers made such a big deal over Obama "supposedly" swearing in over a Quran. I'd say the Christian right would be in an uproar over Romney swearing in over a Book of Mormon. It's also ironic that the Christian right has, by and large said Mormonism is cult for decades but now its not simply because he's not Obama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Judging by the fact that birthers made such a big deal over Obama "supposedly" swearing in over a Quran. I'd say the Christian right would be in an uproar over Romney swearing in over a Book of Mormon. It's also ironic that the Christian right has' date=' by and large said Mormonism is cult for decades but now its not simply because he's not Obama...[/quote'] Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Its quite amusing that those who hate people of faith the most know the least about matters of faith...and as such they are only able to spew from their arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKobayashi Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Judging by the fact that birthers made such a big deal over Obama "supposedly" swearing in over a Quran. I'd say the Christian right would be in an uproar over Romney swearing in over a Book of Mormon. It's also ironic that the Christian right has' date=' by and large said Mormonism is cult for decades but now its not simply because he's not Obama[/b']... LOL..So true!.. Mormons are "ok" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 LOL..So true!..Mormons are "ok" now. we dont have to agree with someones personal beliefs to support them for office. The only people making an issue out fo religion are the ones who claim religion shouldnt be factored in politics to begin with. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKobayashi Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 we dont have to agree with someones personal beliefs to support them for office. The only people making an issue out fo religion are the ones who claim religion shouldnt be factored in politics to begin with. Go figure. Agree, disagree with their personal beliefs...Doesn't mean squat to me. I don't care what religion the candidates are. I merely lol'd at the fact that there were loads of rightwingers in this country who would have never have voted for a mormon before...Until one of them won the GOP nomination...Backtrackmuch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Agree' date=' disagree with their personal beliefs...Doesn't mean squat to me. I don't care what religion the candidates are. I merely lol'd at the fact that there were loads of rightwingers in this country who would have never have voted for a mormon before...Until one of them won the GOP nomination...Backtrackmuch?[/quote'] Maybe back in the 19050's, but that pretty much went out the window when Kennedy was elected. Then again, on the same token, its equally laughable that so many atheists claim anyone who believes in the invisible sky daddy is an idiot, yet many of these same people openly embrace Obama & Ron Paul alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKobayashi Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Maybe back in the 19050's' date=' but that pretty much went out the window when Kennedy was elected. Then again, on the same token, its equally laughable that so many atheists claim anyone who believes in the invisible sky daddy is an idiot, yet many of these same people openly embrace Obama & Ron Paul alike.[/quote'] 1950's?! This was a few months ago man! So many people still think Mormonism is a cult and that they aren't true Christians. But when one of them is facing off against Obama, then and only then does all of that go out the window. On the atheist bit. I've never, not once heard an athiest say they wouldn't vote for a believer. Just a fact. I am from Utah and I have heard it over and over from outsiders how they'd never vote for a mormon. Hell, my own rightwing family from Cali said they wouldn't vote for a mormon before he won the nomination....Saw them a few weeks ago...Now they bout it, bout it when it comes to Romney..They love the guy!! ****in' hypocrites they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL4TRU_STRENGTH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 1950's?! This was a few months ago man! So many people still think Mormonism is a cult and that they aren't true Christians. But when one of them is facing off against Obama' date=' then and only then does all of that go out the window. On the atheist bit. I've never, not once heard an athiest say they wouldn't vote for a believer. Just a fact. I am from Utah and I have heard it over and over from outsiders how they'd never vote for a mormon. Hell, my own rightwing family from Cali said they wouldn't vote for a mormon before he won the nomination....Saw them a few weeks ago...Now they bout it, bout it when it comes to Romney..They love the guy!! ****in' hypocrites they are.[/quote'] Really? Who are these people who claimed they wouldn't vote for a Mormon? Ive witnessed no such talk, and nobody I know has heard of it either. It's a meme, that's all. My point about the atheism bit wasn't who they'd vote for, but rather their duplicity in claiming such people are retarded, yet they embrace people who openly proclaim their faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGnoob Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I actually think what the Mormons do is brilliant. The have created one of the most successful family institutions of all time. Regardless if you agree with their theology, they have A brilliant system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKobayashi Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Really? Who are these people who claimed they wouldn't vote for a Mormon? Ive witnessed no such talk' date=' and nobody I know has heard of it either. It's a meme, that's all. My point about the atheism bit wasn't who they'd vote for, but rather their duplicity in claiming such people are retarded, yet they embrace people who openly proclaim their faith.[/quote'] So your duplicity idea only applies to atheists and not those that flip flopped on the Mormonism issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I said it months ago... It's coming. Exposing Mormonism for what is really is' date=' or at least at it's most secretive core, will sling enough mud on Mitt to give Barry the election.[/quote'] That was supposed to happen last time he ran too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_radly1406052482 Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 They do indeed have a brilliant system. They have been pumping out good little college grad productive members of society for many years. And I think reflective of that mindset, Romney and his ideals along with the people he recruits could potentially bring similar prosperity to the country and the economic stability it needs. But sadly, and the point of me making mention of it, he will likely not be elected because "if" the radicalness of the core Mormon beliefs, which ARE NOT orthodox biblically christian, are exposed, he will lose millions of votes. He may himself be alright, but when you look at the facts about the Mormon church it may surprise many. I'm still voting for him because my guy Ron Paul is out, and I cannot vote for the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 They do indeed have a brilliant system. They have been pumping out good little college grad productive members of society for many years. And I think reflective of that mindset' date=' Romney and his ideals along with the people he recruits could potentially bring similar prosperity to the country and the economic stability it needs. [b']But sadly, and the point of me making mention of it, he will likely not be elected because "if" the radicalness of the core Mormon beliefs, which ARE NOT orthodox biblically christian, are exposed, he will lose millions of votes. He may himself be alright, but when you look at the facts about the Mormon church it may surprise many. [/b] I'm still voting for him because my guy Ron Paul is out, and I cannot vote for the O. Again that was supposed to happen last time he ran. I don't think people actually care anymore. Atleast not enough to hold it against him. It won't even really be brought up anyway and even if it did it would backfire and be seen as a weak attempt attacking his religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 They do indeed have a brilliant system. They have been pumping out good little college grad productive members of society for many years. And I think reflective of that mindset' date=' Romney and his ideals along with the people he recruits could potentially bring similar prosperity to the country and the economic stability it needs. But sadly, and the point of me making mention of it, he will likely not be elected because "if" the radicalness of the core Mormon beliefs, which ARE NOT orthodox biblically christian, are exposed, he will lose millions of votes. He may himself be alright, but when you look at the facts about the Mormon church it may surprise many. I'm still voting for him because my guy Ron Paul is out, and I cannot vote for the O.[/quote'] So vote for Gary Johnson ffs!!! You "I support Ron Paul but am voting for Romney now" people drive me absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyFeet Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Mormonism>Islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_radly1406052482 Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 So vote for Gary Johnson ffs!!! You "I support Ron Paul but am voting for Romney now" people drive me absolutely insane. Gary Johnson who? Bro, if I thought GJ had a chance I'd surely vote for him. He doesn't. I can't throw away my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Gary Johnson who? Bro' date=' if I thought GJ had a chance I'd surely vote for him. He doesn't. I can't throw away my vote.[/quote'] 3rd parties will never gain any traction if people keep thinking like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 3rd parties will never gain any traction if people keep thinking like this. the actual way you can get a third party gain traction for a prez election, is vote locally for local 3rd parties....thats where it starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 3rd parties will never gain any traction if people keep thinking like this. That's true but the problem is most people do so you are both kind of right. Another thing is lets say a Ron Paul or Gary got into office. Do you actually believe things would change that much? I sure don't. No matter how well meaning thier intentions are washington doesn't work like that. Color me a cynic but i'd argue im just a realist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 the actual way you can get a third party gain traction for a prez election' date=' is vote locally for local 3rd parties....thats where it starts[/quote'] Yes, I know. Stomp and I have had quite a few conversations about this. The same problem exists in local and State elections. Unless someone has a (D) or an ® next to their name, the hive mind will not favor them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_radly1406052482 Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 3rd parties will never gain any traction if people keep thinking like this. It's the people that think like this is why I know he will never have a chance even if I vote for him. Ron Paul had a chance, but it was whisked away by the media monster. Again... not throwing away my vote, you shouldn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 It's the people that think like this is why I know he will never have a chance even if I vote for him. Ron Paul had a chance' date=' but it was whisked away by the media monster. Again... not throwing away my vote, you shouldn't either.[/quote'] Your throwing it away anyway by voting for whoever you feel is the lesser of the two bozo's. Whoever gets in barring some drastic unforeseen bad situation that pops up don't expect much change. Another four yrs will roll on and you'll want someone else in and get fooled again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 It's the people that think like this is why I know he will never have a chance even if I vote for him. Ron Paul had a chance' date=' but it was whisked away by the media monster. Again... not throwing away my vote, you shouldn't either.[/quote'] Right, because all that's ever existed has been democrats and republicans. I'm not surprised you're a hive mind thinker though. Not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesoulpower Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Honestly guys it's prob smarter to have Romney in office that way he can **** up so bad we can just overthrow our modern version of government. By 2022 all these right removing right natzys will be shipped to Utah and fenced in and all the other states will enjoy the freedoms our founding fathers originally intended for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Honestly guys it's prob smarter to have Romney in office that way he can **** up so bad we can just overthrow our modern version of government. By 2022 all these right removing right natzys will be shipped to Utah and fenced in and all the other states will enjoy the freedoms our founding fathers originally intended for us. No! You can **** up really bad and still be considered a hero to a lot of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_radly1406052482 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Right' date=' because all that's ever existed has been democrats and republicans. I'm not surprised you're a hive mind thinker though. Not surprised at all.[/quote'] I don't consider myself a hive thinker as you say, but a realist. And what do you suggest, voting for Johnson.. as if he has a real chance? Do you think he has a real chance or do you want your vote to just prove a point? Srsly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesoulpower Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 No! You can **** up really bad and still be considered a hero to a lot of people! Yikes I didn't think about that. We are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabri1985 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I don't consider myself a hive thinker as you say' date=' but a realist. And what do you suggest, voting for Johnson.. as if he has a real chance? Do you think he has a real chance or do you want your vote to just prove a point? Srsly.[/quote'] It's not about you thinking he has a real chance or not, it's about you thinking he is the best man for the job. Wasting your vote would be to vote in a guy you don't think is fit to do the job because he is the lesser of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesoulpower Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 It's not about you thinking he has a real chance or not' date=' it's about you thinking he is the best man for the job. [b']Wasting your vote would be to vote in a guy you don't think is fit to do the job because he is the lesser of two evils.[/b] Good post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChamp Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think he's just suffering from Romnesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 It's not about you thinking he has a real chance or not' date=' it's about you thinking he is the best man for the job. Wasting your vote would be to vote in a guy you don't think is fit to do the job because he is the lesser of two evils.[/quote'] Good post! They are all "fit to do the job." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 It's not about you thinking he has a real chance or not' date=' it's about you thinking he is the best man for the job. Wasting your vote would be to vote in a guy you don't think is fit to do the job because he is the lesser of two evils.[/quote'] This guy gets it! Too bad you're not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 If Romney was a Muslim, people wouldn't vote for him, would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChamp Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 If Romney was a Muslim' date=' people wouldn't vote for him, would they?[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Is this what you mean Brad? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-29/romney-avoids-taxes-via-loophole-cutting-mormon-donations.html Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations In 1997, Congress cracked down on a popular tax shelter that allowed rich people to take advantage of the exempt status of charities without actually giving away much money. Individuals who had already set up these vehicles were allowed to keep them. That included Mitt Romney, then the chief executive officer of Bain Capital, who had just established such an arrangement in June 1996. That's it! Start taxing churches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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