BispingTheBeast Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 On the surface it may seem like UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones has virtually wiped out the top contenders at 205lbs, but there are a few challengers still waiting in the wings. Beyond his April 2013 fight against Chael Sonnen, the reigning and defending light heavyweight king still has a potential fight against Dan Henderson looming, and maybe the most intriguing fight of all ? a showdown with Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix champion Daniel Cormier. Cormier has mentioned on more than a couple of occasions that he would like to get a shot against Jones at some point in the future, and revealed that the two even chatted about it earlier this year. For his part, Jones has since played off Cormier?s challenges to coach against him on the Ultimate Fighter and said he was ?relatively unknown?. On Tuesday, Jones was again asked about Cormier but this time it related to his wrestling skills. Cormier is a former Olympian and NCAA champion wrestler, but Jones didn?t seem to their skill sets were all that far apart nowadays. RELATED POSTS Is Daniel Cormier the Solution to the Jon Jones Puzzle? Dana White ?Likes? the Idea of Jon Jones Facing Daniel Cormier in the UFC Strikeforce Barnett vs Cormier: What a Difference a Year Made for Daniel Cormier (Post Video) Strikeforce Barnett vs. Cormier Results: Daniel Cormier Stands as Champion Daniel Cormier Knows He?ll Eventually Be in the UFC (Video) Where Jones knows he?s better however is at fighting, and that?s where he?d beat Cormier if they ever come face to face in the cage. ?Cormier?s probably a little bit better than me (at wrestling), but it?s not a wrestling match at all. When you talk about knees and submissions and punching and kicking him in the face, and upkicks, it?s just not a wrestling match,? Jones said. Jones has no problem saying that Cormier?s collegiate and amateur wrestling career was more impressive than his, but he wouldn?t be the first fighter he?s faced with more awards in that category. ?When it comes to credentials he definitely had a better wrestling career than me, but half the guys I fought have had better wrestling careers,? Jones stated. The only credentials Jones is worried about when facing Cormier is his standing as the best 205lb fighter on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnicorn Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Cormier is a far better wrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesGunn Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Sounds like he's scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnicorn Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Sounds like he's scared. Jones would get crushed by Cormier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 #BelieveInDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmart Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Jones would get crushed by Cormier Yes just like shogun would crush him and machida please lol stop the hate daniel cormier doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as jon jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKWS75 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes just like shogun would crush him and machida please lol stop the hate daniel cormier doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as jon jones ^^ Word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 DC would destroy Jones at MMA, Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, Drinking, Driving.... Jones wins at ducking, being a pompous ego maniac and a pedo deserving 25 to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Barnett probably thought that Cormier was only "a little better" than him in wrestling, too, and he got flipped like a pancake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourthnorseman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes just like shogun would crush him and machida please lol stop the hate daniel cormier doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as jon jones Mr Smart?! More like Mr retard with a comment like that! It has nothing to do with hate man. Its called common sense. If Cormier can pick up a 260 pound Josh Barnett and slam him on his head what do you think he could do to Jones? Let me guess...the reason he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Jones is because he hasn't fought in the UFC right? Jones is a scared and he is clearly ducking him. A lame excuse I might add too! The UFC could easily promote the **** out of Cormier with his OLYMPIC caliber wrestling and impressive wins over Bigfoot Silva and Barnett. Jones is the Champion and should be a big enough reason to sell the fight on his own. Pathetic excuse for being a scared little ***** more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourthnorseman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 dc would destroy jones at mma' date=' wrestling, boxing, kickboxing, drinking, driving.... Jones wins at ducking, being a pompous ego maniac and a pedo deserving 25 to life.[/quote'] lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchu Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 you duck someone when you were appointed a fight and you refuse to take it, for whatever reason that may be... Cormier hasn't been appointed to Jones, so that's not ducking... if that is ducking then JDS is also ducking Overeem... many other examples can be made from that definition of ducking... And yes, under my definition of ducking, Jones DID duck Sonnen, even if he was right for doing so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fourthnorseman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 you duck someone when you were appointed a fight and you refuse to take it' date=' for whatever reason that may be... Cormier hasn't been appointed to Jones, so that's not ducking... if that is ducking then JDS is also ducking Overeem... many other examples can be made from that definition of ducking... And yes, under my definition of ducking, Jones DID duck Sonnen, even if he was right for doing so...[/quote'] Both Jones and JDS are scared and would duck if they could. Their comments show it. Jones in particular could be doing the Ultimate Fighter and fighting Cormier next instead of Sonnen (who he appearently didn't want to fight because he wasn't worthy). Funny how once faced with the prospect of facing Cormier, Sonnen all of a sudden deserves this title shot that he apparently didn't just weeks prior hey? And now it's Cormier who doesn't deserve it! Chicken **** bones:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchu Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Both Jones and JDS are scared and would duck if they could. Their comments show it. Jones in particular could be doing the Ultimate Fighter and fighting Cormier next instead of Sonnen (who he appearently didn't want to fight because he wasn't worthy). Funny how once faced with the prospect of facing Cormier' date=' Sonnen all of a sudden deserves this title shot that he apparently didn't just weeks prior hey? And now it's Cormier who doesn't deserve it! Chicken **** bones:rolleyes:[/quote'] Both Sonnen and Cormier don't deserve it... And Cormier wasn't asked to coach TUF against Jones, Sonnen was... You can say all you want, but if the UFC had decided to put Cormier on TUF against Jones, Jones would have said yes after the whole 151 fiasco... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourthnorseman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Both Sonnen and Cormier don't deserve it... And Cormier wasn't asked to coach TUF against Jones' date=' Sonnen was... You can say all you want, but if the UFC had decided to put Cormier on TUF against Jones, Jones would have said yes after the whole 151 fiasco...[/quote'] Dude there were multiple threads about a week ago with links showing that Dana White had asked Jones about fighting Cormier on the TUF show. Jones said he wasn't into "raising Cormiers stock" and that Cormier was relatively unknown in the mma community. Basically saying that he felt Cormier wasn't worthy of the title shot. So say all you want but the idea of Cormier fighting Jones on TUF in fact was throw around. And its also a fact that Jones wanted no part of fighting Cormier. Do your research man before you say that Jones would do this or Jones would do that. Jones would rather take another Middleweight gimmie fight more like it. And I'm sorry but there is only one other guy as, or more deserving of a title shot than Cormier, and that is Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchu Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Dude there were multiple threads about a week ago with links showing that Dana White had asked Jones about fighting Cormier on the TUF show. Jones said he wasn't into "raising Cormiers stock" and that Cormier was relatively unknown in the mma community. Basically saying that he felt Cormier wasn't worthy of the title shot. So say all you want but the idea of Cormier fighting Jones on TUF in fact was throw around. And its also a fact that Jones wanted no part of fighting Cormier. Do your research man before you say that Jones would do this or Jones would do that. Jones would rather take another Middleweight gimmie fight more like it. And I'm sorry but there is only one other guy as' date=' or more deserving of a title shot than Cormier, and that is Henderson.[/quote'] Please show me a link where it says that the UFC offered Cormier to Jones for TUF and I'll take my words back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolomite5698 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 DC would destroy Jones at MMA' date=' Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, Drinking, Driving.... Jones wins at ducking, being a pompous ego maniac and a pedo deserving 25 to life.[/quote'] Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolomite5698 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Please show me a link where it says that the UFC offered Cormier to Jones for TUF and I'll take my words back... It was never offered to Jones, Cormier just expressed interest and Jones said he didn't want to because DC is "not known well enough" and "isn't here to raise stock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchu Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 It was never offered to Jones' date=' Cormier just expressed interest and Jones said he didn't want to because DC is "not known well enough" and "isn't here to raise stock."[/quote'] If that's true then that means I'm right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolomite5698 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 If that's true then that means I'm right... No idea. Didn't read the argument. Just read what you said. It was never officially offered to Jones. DC just posted on twitter about it and Jones killed it off before the UFC even tried to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourthnorseman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 If that's true then that means I'm right... The fight was not officially proposed to him by Dana but Dana said to the media he liked the idea of this fight. I think Dana was not going to push the issue because there is a desperate need to get the ratings back up for TUF. So in a way Jones has a point when looking at it from a marketing perspective as Sonnen is much more well known. So in short I understand why the decision was made but I still think it was lame coming from Jones standpoint. Coming from Dana it makes more sense. Jones shouldn't want this fight, and in fact never did. **** he let an event get cancelled because he believed in this so strongly. I think it became a lot more rose colored to Jones though once he realized his only other option was Cormier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchu Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 The fight was proposed to him by Dana. I think Dana was not going to push the issue because there is a desperate need to get the ratings back up for TUF. So in a way Jones has a point when looking at it from a marketing perspective as Sonnen is much more well known. So in short I understand why the decision was made but I still think it was lame coming from Jones standpoint. Coming from Dana it makes more sense. Jones shouldn't want this fight' date=' and in fact never did. **** he let an event get cancelled because he believed in this so strongly. I think it became a lot more rose colored to Jones though once he realized his only other option was Cormier.[/quote'] So there's no link... interesting... and the event cancellation is a whole different topic... even though he wasn't the one to blame for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan001 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Mr Smart?! More like Mr retard with a comment like that!. lmao! quote of the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button_man Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 jones is a punk and talks a lot of trash.yes,he's a good fighter but sometimes he discredits fighters.i hope he really fights silva,and maybe he should also step up and go to HW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetatronBJJ Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 DC would destroy Jones at MMA' date=' Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, Drinking, Driving.... Jones wins at ducking, being a pompous ego maniac and a pedo deserving 25 to life.[/quote'] StompGrind is the very best at bringing MMA knowledge but can also switch it up and troll with the best of them. P4P most versatile poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmart Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Mr Smart?! More like Mr retard with a comment like that! It has nothing to do with hate man. Its called common sense. If Cormier can pick up a 260 pound Josh Barnett and slam him on his head what do you think he could do to Jones? Let me guess...the reason he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Jones is because he hasn't fought in the UFC right? Jones is a scared and he is clearly ducking him. A lame excuse I might add too! The UFC could easily promote the **** out of Cormier with his OLYMPIC caliber wrestling and impressive wins over Bigfoot Silva and Barnett. Jones is the Champion and should be a big enough reason to sell the fight on his own. Pathetic excuse for being a scared little ***** more like it. Seriously your thick as **** u numpty for a start bones will bulk up and be a massive HW if cormier moves down he wont b the same and stfu comparing fking barnet to bones i dont care if hes 260 pounds hes not anywhere near the same league as bones cormier will get his fat as.s picked apart brought down and submitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmart Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Jones is the Champion and should be a big enough reason to sell the fight on his own. Pathetic excuse for being a scared little ***** more like it. Ye its not hate is it that sounds abit hatey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapped2strikes Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I reckon Jones would trash him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yes just like shogun would crush him and machida please lol stop the hate daniel cormier doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as jon jones Even if you think Jones would beat DC( I don't) you can't say it wouldn't be a good fight right till the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmafan73 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 he would get smashed by DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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