TheMmaKnowItAll Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Unquestionable cardio, decent chin, great wrestling, great stand up, controlled agression! After toying lesnar and big foot and now mauling his greatest rival jds, cain stands head and shoulders above the rest. How can anyone stop him? He makes fedor look very amateur! Reem?werdum? They couldn't handle his pace. Cain will now retire the baddest dude on the planet and as the greatest heavyweight ever!! Be interesting to see jon jones give HW a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz2990 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I wanna see bones call him out now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimi1406052972 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No, he isnt. Cormier is the best HW on the planet. Shame they made a deal to never fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameriman Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No' date=' he isnt. Cormier is the best HW on the planet. Shame they made a deal to never fight[/quote'] What...? The best competition DC has ever faced is Barnett... Cain just utterly demolished the man who most considered the baddest man on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 i dont know if he ll be able to do that same thing to much bigger overoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PakaL Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 In miles ahead you mean protected by the ufc.Same as silva and gsp the cash cows will get sub par opponents.Thus you get super record breaking champs that fight paper bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 didn't he just fight JDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 What...? The best competition DC has ever faced is Barnett... Cain just utterly demolished the man who most considered the baddest man on the planet. He demolished a JDS who has zero wrestling with wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodredsunn Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No' date=' he isnt. Cormier is the best HW on the planet. Shame they made a deal to never fight[/quote']need few real fights to be considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 need few real fights to be considered So you are saying he has had no real fights lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMmaKnowItAll Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Cormier took Barnett too a hard fought decision? Hardly impressive! I would rank Barnett with big nog and frank Mir, and look what jds and cain did too those 2!! Cormier belongs at 205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodredsunn Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 So you are saying he has had no real fights lmfao can you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 can you read? yes, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Cormier took Barnett too a hard fought decision? Hardly impressive! I would rank Barnett with big nog and frank Mir' date=' and look what jds and cain did too those 2!! Cormier belongs at 205[/quote']Cormier also KO'd Big Foot whilst Cain only TKO'd him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodredsunn Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 yes' date=' can you?[/quote'] where did i say he has had no real fights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 need few real fights to be considered where did i say he has had no real fights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameriman Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He demolished a JDS who has zero wrestling with wrestling And...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodredsunn Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 well, sorry... was meant few more... DC is great, but no way he shall get instant title shot. need few fights in ufc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 And...? and what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 well' date=' sorry... was meant few more...DC is great, but no way he shall get instant title shot. need few fights in ufc.[/quote'] fair enough , dont think anybody is saying he should get an immediate title shot. I dont think anybody should get a title shot in a new organsation of the bat just my giving opinion on how good he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePack19 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Slack jaws. Lmao!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLGA32 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He demolished a JDS who has zero wrestling with wrestling This quote sounds as if all Cain did was use his wrestling to beat up poor JDS, who didnt have any wrestling. He FIRST beat JDS in the standup, which lead to the domination.. JDS was done early in that fight. He got too ****y, too fast. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepZzZz Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He demolished a JDS who has zero wrestling with wrestling :rolleyes:Dude, I mean, come on... 2 days ago JDS had the best TD in the hw division bla bla bla, and now he has 0 wrestling, you don't get the sprawl and the spring and the tdd that Dos Santos has with 0 wrestling. Listen, I'm a huge JDS fan, 10 times more than of Cain but the difference is I'm not a nutthugger and the truth is: Cain beat the piss out of him standing and on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No Cain is not....well he's not yet that is...there are still a few intresting fights for him besides JDS III You have Werdum,Overeem...if he would fight Dc that would be good aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepZzZz Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 No Cain is not....well he's not yet that is...there are still a few intresting fights for him besides JDS III You have Werdum' date='Overeem...if he would fight Dc that would be good aswell[/quote'] ^and this also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 This quote sounds as if all Cain did was use his wrestling to beat up poor JDS' date=' who didnt have any wrestling. He FIRST beat JDS in the standup, which lead to the domination.. JDS was done early in that fight. He got too ****y, too fast. Period.[/quote'] He used his wrestling to great effect to tire JDS and dominate him, not exactly untrue I think you'll agree. JDS has zero wrestling Dude' date=' I mean, come on... 2 days ago JDS had the best TD in the hw division[/b'] bla bla bla, and now he has 0 wrestling, you don't get the sprawl and the spring and the tdd that Dos Santos has with 0 wrestling. Listen, I'm a huge JDS fan, 10 times more than of Cain but the difference is I'm not a nutthugger and the truth is: Cain beat the piss out of him standing and on the ground. I have never said that, so what in pure wrestling terms, JDS has zero wrestling. Hehas average TDD and was exposed BADLY by a natural wrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepZzZz Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He used his wrestling to great effect to tire JDS and dominate him' date=' not exactly untrue I think you'll agree. JDS has zero wrestling I have never said that, so what in pure wrestling terms, JDS has zero wrestling. Hehas average TDD and was exposed BADLY by a natural wrestler[/quote'] Credential-wise: no he does not BUT take in consideration the fact that he was taken down AFTER Cain lit him up. Getting hit in the head at hw can lower your TDD to an "average" level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLGA32 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 He used his wrestling to great effect to tire JDS and dominate him' date=' not exactly untrue I think you'll agree. JDS has zero wrestling I have never said that, so what in pure wrestling terms, JDS has zero wrestling. Hehas average TDD and was exposed BADLY by a natural wrestler[/quote'] I was just saying that I dont think he wouldve dominated JDS so badly in the wrestling department, had he not rocked him first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Credential-wise: no he does not BUT take in consideration the fact that he was taken down AFTER Cain lit him up. Getting hit in the head at hw can lower your TDD to an "average" level. his TDD isnt good period. the reason he was able to defend any was Cain didnt disguise any takedowns. Cain isnt a top level wrestler either and dominated JDS everywhere JDS needs to work his next camp mainly wrestling to be able to control Cain. Yes Cain did hit him a lot, but his takedowns can be seen a mile away. Any HW that is a good wrestler will stop Cains takedowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman20 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 no... Mir> all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I was just saying that I dont think he wouldve dominated JDS so badly in the wrestling department' date=' had he not rocked him first..[/quote'] I dont believe that was a major factor in his dominating the fight. It helped, but JDS is weak in wrestling and Cain used that to his advantage. Thats not a bad thing, thats actually a smart well thought out gameplan which he executed perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Mousasi Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Unquestionable cardio' date=' decent chin, great wrestling, great stand up, controlled agression!After toying lesnar and big foot and now mauling his greatest rival jds, cain stands head and shoulders above the rest. How can anyone stop him? He makes fedor look very amateur! Reem?werdum? They couldn't handle his pace. Cain will now retire the baddest dude on the planet and as the greatest heavyweight ever!! Be interesting to see jon jones give HW a go?[/quote'] Makes Fedor look amateur? He's winning fights the same way Fedor did in Pride. They are very similar in fight styles. The only difference is Cain's wrestling vs Fedor's sambo. Could Cain become the best HW ever? Maybe. But let's see him vs Overeem first and see if he can hold on to the belt for a significant period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krendo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 his TDD isnt good period. the reason he was able to defend any was Cain didnt disguise any takedowns. Cain isnt a top level wrestler either and dominated JDS everywhere JDS needs to work his next camp mainly wrestling to be able to control Cain. Yes Cain did hit him a lot' date=' but his takedowns can be seen a mile away. Any HW that is a good wrestler will stop Cains takedowns[/quote'] The reason JDS has rolled through the HW division is that his TDD is amazing and he makes people fight him on their feet. How can you say that his TDD isn't good? Cain isn't a top level wrestler? He graduated from Kofa High School, where he compiled a record of 110?10 in four years of wrestling, including winning the 5A Arizona Wrestling Championship twice. After high school, he attended Iowa Central Community College, wrestling for one season and winning the NJCAA National Championship. Afterwards, Velasquez transferred to Arizona State University. He wrestled for the Sun Devils for three seasons and compiled a record of 86?17, placing 5th in the country in 2005, and 4th in 2006. I dunno, looks pretty top level to me, even if he's just worked on his stand up for the last 6 years, where he just beat up the best boxer in the HW division on his feet, he's still a top level wrestler. I'm no Cain Fanboy, but you make these two sound like they're two left foot retards compared to DC, and I think you're a bit off the cuff here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josetplayer Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Btw dana said last night that comier wuld either move down weight or agree to fight cain even tho they are friends/training partners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'm no Cain Fanboy' date=' but you make these two sound like they're two left foot retards compared to DC, and I think you're a bit off the cuff here.[/quote'] how do I make them sound like that lmao Cain v DC would be a great fight to which I believe DC would have the edge. thats all. its just an opinion to who I think is better. Cain wins fights by aggression, cardio and a lot of punches. JDS wins fights by punching and decent TDD against average wrestlers or fighters that just dont use their wrestling enough thats just the way I see it. what they did in colledge means nothing to what they are doing right now in the UFC and JDS has not shown any good wrestling IMO. some decent TDD at times, but people fear his striking not his wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Btw dana said last night that comier wuld either move down weight or agree to fight cain even tho they are friends/training partners have you a link for that, I am very interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Reem, Werdum, Cormier (even though they're not fighting), and even JDS are all still capable of beating Cain. And when Jones arrives on the scene, so can he. He hasn't even defended yet and morons like that guy at the press conference are already comparing him to Anderson. lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krendo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sorry, I guess I just really read his TDD isnt good period. the reason he was able to defend any was Cain didnt disguise any takedowns. Cain isnt a top level wrestler either and dominated JDS everywhere His TDD is good period. I think the reason that he wasn't able to defend any of them is cause he was seriously rocked and looked like sloth from the goonies afterwards. I think Cain is a top level wrestler. Your opinion of DC and Cain is respected, it may be a great fight. I think it was just the two blanket statements that got my speedo all bunched up for a second there. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fobar Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sorry' date=' I guess I just really read His TDD is good period. I think the reason that he wasn't able to defend any of them is cause he was seriously rocked and looked like sloth from the goonies afterwards. I think Cain is a top level wrestler. Your opinion of DC and Cain is respected, it may be a great fight. I think it was just the two blanket statements that got my speedo all bunched up for a second there. lol[/quote'] Its all opinions and maybe I could have worded things better to start with lol also, your AVI is P4P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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