BruteDion Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I have had a lot of friends who have served...and those that had the balls to complete thier time have very little to show for it I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way...you hear bout all the programs available to them when they get out to help with education,getting a job ect....but I hear way more storys bout it being BS What do yall think...while I would like them to give vets more...I would also like for them to cut cost by taking less recruits and giving more incentives to keep the soldiers in the military and not leave...do u think that could help cut cost I'll admit I'm no expert...do yoy think that would not only help the military keep highly trained person but also help those soldiers and cut cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakenshi1243 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I feel like vets get a lot of incentive for being in the military, but these kids just ****ing throw it away by being irresponsible. From what I have seen, the military will take care of you, you just have to capitalize on the opportunities. I may be wrong though, I don't have much experience with vets to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I feel like vets get a lot of incentive for being in the military, but these kids just ****ing throw it away by being irresponsible. From what I have seen, the military will take care of you, you just have to capitalize on the opportunities. I may be wrong though, I don't have much experience with vets to begin with. this maybe very true...of all them they can't all be using it to the fullest...maybe its just most of them are to lazy to take the things they are given which is crazy to think of uknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakenshi1243 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I just can't count the amount of military members that blow everything away while on the field. I wish I could go on half the spending sprees these guys go on, full sleeve tattoos, even unpractical cars that will drain your cash once you're out. I feel bad for them since it's the first time most of them are away from home, and have no idea how to handle their finances. Again this is not the case for all the servicemen, just the younger ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'm a 7 year vet They get plenty if they take advantage of it Like you guys said, most just piss it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAGOD1 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady969 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I have had a lot of friends who have served...and those that had the balls to complete thier time have very little to show for it I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way...you hear bout all the programs available to them when they get out to help with education,getting a job ect....but I hear way more storys bout it being BS What do yall think...while I would like them to give vets more...I would also like for them to cut cost by taking less recruits and giving more incentives to keep the soldiers in the military and not leave...do u think that could help cut cost I'll admit I'm no expert...do yoy think that would not only help the military keep highly trained person but also help those soldiers and cut cost? Could they do better with dealing with our physically injured and mentaly injured vets? Absolutely! But the service takes care of them financially. It could possibly be better but here's the truth some people hate hearing....not everyone is good with money. Especially young recruits who want to drive brand new cars while living on base. If you're friends have little to show in life....who's fault is that? Have you seen their debt? Does they have credit card debt? Are they saving anything? Do they live like they make 90,000 a year when they make 25,000? I don't think just being in the military should mean you make $50,000 a year. Not to mention, it's quanity not quality in any branch of the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyhuggers Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's a volunteer military, there is no draft (yet) so although I think they could use a slight raise in combat pay, they otherwise get a stack of benefits if they are smart to take advantage of them - and vets get good care if they use it properly. I will note that with some VA medical experiences myself, injured vets could use a bit better "customer service" and stop getting the run around sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 If they suffer a serious injury the military treats them like ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's a volunteer military, there is no draft (yet) so although I think they could use a slight raise in combat pay, they otherwise get a stack of benefits if they are smart to take advantage of them - and vets get good care if they use it properly.I will note that with some VA medical experiences myself, injured vets could use a bit better "customer service" and stop getting the run around sometimes. If they suffer a serious injury the military treats them like ****. Pretty much my thoughts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. That just sounds like taking advantage of the system in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruteDion Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Idk maybe its just me uknow...I don't like war at all really but I'm in full support of them grunts of it I just don't like thier status in society today...I feel it should be higher for them and I'm just not seeing it for them...I'm not expecting priority seating here...but every opportunity to succeed and get the help they need It it probably is just their fault though Less soldiers...but more quality of life for them afterwards sounds great....but they maybe just too damn lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Your friend is probably lying. You don't get 100% disability for PTSD. Either that, or he's married with a couple dozen children. I get 50% VA disability and its nowhere near $2000 a month. As for benefits and treatment, I'd say its quite fair. I ended up getting the job I have now primarily because of military experience. My company, as well as many others, have military hiring preference. That's because, generally speaking, you've received extensive training in the military. Especially like in my case, where my military MOS had directly transferable skills into my new job. As well as being disciplined, good work ethic, never late, high level of professionalism, and experience dealing with bureaucratic agencies like the coastguard, EPA, and Homeland Security. Most employers also get tax breaks for hiring vets. If a vet can't succeed after service and are physically and mentally able to function, they're not using their benefits correctly and aren't seizing the opportunities afforded to them, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapped2strikes Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Man they get free Middle Eastern puzzy, that is good enough I doubt it. Eastern girls aren't ****s like western girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Man they get free Middle Eastern puzzy, that is good enough I doubt it. Eastern girls aren't ****s like western girls. True, but I heard sex is legal without consent in those countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapped2strikes Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Man they get free Middle Eastern puzzy, that is good enough I doubt it. Eastern girls aren't ****s like western girls. True, but I heard sex is legal without consent in those countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAGOD1 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Your friend is probably lying. You don't get 100% disability for PTSD. Either that, or he's married with a couple dozen children. I get 50% VA disability and its nowhere near $2000 a month. As for benefits and treatment, I'd say its quite fair. I ended up getting the job I have now primarily because of military experience. My company, as well as many others, have military hiring preference. That's because, generally speaking, you've received extensive training in the military. Especially like in my case, where my military MOS had directly transferable skills into my new job. As well as being disciplined, good work ethic, never late, high level of professionalism, and experience dealing with bureaucratic agencies like the coastguard, EPA, and Homeland Security. Most employers also get tax breaks for hiring vets. If a vet can't succeed after service and are physically and mentally able to function, they're not using their benefits correctly and aren't seizing the opportunities afforded to them, IMHO. Hes not married, has no kids and he gets 90%. My other friend who has a purple heart is only getting 60%. I have a bunch of friends in the marines and they told me you can hire a lawyer that can guarantee a certain %. My friend with the purple heart didn't hire one and is pissed that my other friend got that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Your friend is probably lying. You don't get 100% disability for PTSD. Either that, or he's married with a couple dozen children. I get 50% VA disability and its nowhere near $2000 a month. As for benefits and treatment, I'd say its quite fair. I ended up getting the job I have now primarily because of military experience. My company, as well as many others, have military hiring preference. That's because, generally speaking, you've received extensive training in the military. Especially like in my case, where my military MOS had directly transferable skills into my new job. As well as being disciplined, good work ethic, never late, high level of professionalism, and experience dealing with bureaucratic agencies like the coastguard, EPA, and Homeland Security. Most employers also get tax breaks for hiring vets. If a vet can't succeed after service and are physically and mentally able to function, they're not using their benefits correctly and aren't seizing the opportunities afforded to them, IMHO. Hes not married, has no kids and he gets 90%. My other friend who has a purple heart is only getting 60%. I have a bunch of friends in the marines and they told me you can hire a lawyer that can guarantee a certain %. My friend with the purple heart didn't hire one and is pissed that my other friend got that much. He's definitely not getting $2000 a month at 90% being single. I'd say $1100 is a stretch. As for your VA dictation, you don't need a lawyer. Each condition is rated differently based on severity. Even if he was diagnosed with PTSD, he likely has other conditions that rated him at 90%. That usually goes hand in hand with severe depression, anxiety disorders, adjustment disorders, hypertension... Etc... Etc. If your buddy isn't happy with his rating, he needs to schedule a reevaluation. The government isn't just gonna take his word on it and give him more money. It's also rather ridiculous to be jealous of someone else's rating. I'm sure the PTSD sufferer has went through the mental health gambit in order to be granted that rating. Just because the scars aren't visible, doesn't mean they're not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAGOD1 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Your friend is probably lying. You don't get 100% disability for PTSD. Either that, or he's married with a couple dozen children. I get 50% VA disability and its nowhere near $2000 a month. As for benefits and treatment, I'd say its quite fair. I ended up getting the job I have now primarily because of military experience. My company, as well as many others, have military hiring preference. That's because, generally speaking, you've received extensive training in the military. Especially like in my case, where my military MOS had directly transferable skills into my new job. As well as being disciplined, good work ethic, never late, high level of professionalism, and experience dealing with bureaucratic agencies like the coastguard, EPA, and Homeland Security. Most employers also get tax breaks for hiring vets. If a vet can't succeed after service and are physically and mentally able to function, they're not using their benefits correctly and aren't seizing the opportunities afforded to them, IMHO. Hes not married, has no kids and he gets 90%. My other friend who has a purple heart is only getting 60%. I have a bunch of friends in the marines and they told me you can hire a lawyer that can guarantee a certain %. My friend with the purple heart didn't hire one and is pissed that my other friend got that much. He's definitely not getting $2000 a month at 90% being single. I'd say $1100 is a stretch. As for your VA dictation, you don't need a lawyer. Each condition is rated differently based on severity. Even if he was diagnosed with PTSD, he likely has other conditions that rated him at 90%. That usually goes hand in hand with severe depression, anxiety disorders, adjustment disorders, hypertension... Etc... Etc. If your buddy isn't happy with his rating, he needs to schedule a reevaluation. The government isn't just gonna take his word on it and give him more money. It's also rather ridiculous to be jealous of someone else's rating. I'm sure the PTSD sufferer has went through the mental health gambit in order to be granted that rating. Just because the scars aren't visible, doesn't mean they're not there. He's getting $1,700. http://www.military.com/benefits/veterans-health-care/va-disability-compensation-rates.html#BM03 And my friend thats getting 90% is fine, thats why my friend with the purple heart is kind of like wtf, hes not jealous, just kind of shaking his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Imo they get taken care of. One of my friends is in the Marine reserves and went to afghanastan last year. He didn't see any combat and hardly left the wire and his deployments got cut short 4 months and he gets almost 2,000 a month for the rest of his life for claiming ptsd disability. Your friend is probably lying. You don't get 100% disability for PTSD. Either that, or he's married with a couple dozen children. I get 50% VA disability and its nowhere near $2000 a month. As for benefits and treatment, I'd say its quite fair. I ended up getting the job I have now primarily because of military experience. My company, as well as many others, have military hiring preference. That's because, generally speaking, you've received extensive training in the military. Especially like in my case, where my military MOS had directly transferable skills into my new job. As well as being disciplined, good work ethic, never late, high level of professionalism, and experience dealing with bureaucratic agencies like the coastguard, EPA, and Homeland Security. Most employers also get tax breaks for hiring vets. If a vet can't succeed after service and are physically and mentally able to function, they're not using their benefits correctly and aren't seizing the opportunities afforded to them, IMHO. Hes not married, has no kids and he gets 90%. My other friend who has a purple heart is only getting 60%. I have a bunch of friends in the marines and they told me you can hire a lawyer that can guarantee a certain %. My friend with the purple heart didn't hire one and is pissed that my other friend got that much. He's definitely not getting $2000 a month at 90% being single. I'd say $1100 is a stretch. As for your VA dictation, you don't need a lawyer. Each condition is rated differently based on severity. Even if he was diagnosed with PTSD, he likely has other conditions that rated him at 90%. That usually goes hand in hand with severe depression, anxiety disorders, adjustment disorders, hypertension... Etc... Etc. If your buddy isn't happy with his rating, he needs to schedule a reevaluation. The government isn't just gonna take his word on it and give him more money. It's also rather ridiculous to be jealous of someone else's rating. I'm sure the PTSD sufferer has went through the mental health gambit in order to be granted that rating. Just because the scars aren't visible, doesn't mean they're not there. He's getting $1,700. http://www.military.com/benefits/veterans-health-care/va-disability-compensation-rates.html#BM03 And my friend thats getting 90% is fine, thats why my friend with the purple heart is kind of like wtf, hes not jealous, just kind of shaking his head. Meh, unless you're around him 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, it's hard to say someone is fine. It also depends on how your other friend received his purple heart. If he got hit by an IED and lost a limb, eye sight, or hearing, he may only deserve his rate. For example, if he took shrapnel in the torso in a mortar attack and has made a full recovery, that doesn't justify 90 or even 100%. Like I Saud before. If he's not satisfied with his rating, he needs to make an appointment with the VA for a reevaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewGuy2000 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have had a lot of friends who have served...and those that had the balls to complete thier time have very little to show for it I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way...you hear bout all the programs available to them when they get out to help with education,getting a job ect....but I hear way more storys bout it being BS What do yall think...while I would like them to give vets more...I would also like for them to cut cost by taking less recruits and giving more incentives to keep the soldiers in the military and not leave...do u think that could help cut cost I'll admit I'm no expert...do yoy think that would not only help the military keep highly trained person but also help those soldiers and cut cost? They have programs and incentives to entice soldiers to re-enlist but that's not why most people leave. Most people leave because their work place and supervisors are too strict and petty about things. I left because my superiors were high school drop-outs who had the slightest clues how to be a leader. They don't give a rat's **** about you until your re-enlistment comes up. By that time, you;ve already had it and are just waiting to give them the finger. As far as programs for discharged personnel, there are more programs now than there have ever been. Veterans receive GI bill, extra points for application for work, work programs to retrain vets for jobs, special medical services etc. Those who have served before 911 have paid for the right of current vets to reap the benefits from the communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have had a lot of friends who have served...and those that had the balls to complete thier time have very little to show for it I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way...you hear bout all the programs available to them when they get out to help with education,getting a job ect....but I hear way more storys bout it being BS What do yall think...while I would like them to give vets more...I would also like for them to cut cost by taking less recruits and giving more incentives to keep the soldiers in the military and not leave...do u think that could help cut cost I'll admit I'm no expert...do yoy think that would not only help the military keep highly trained person but also help those soldiers and cut cost? They have programs and incentives to entice soldiers to re-enlist but that's not why most people leave. Most people leave because their work place and supervisors are too strict and petty about things. I left because my superiors were high school drop-outs who had the slightest clues how to be a leader. They don't give a rat's **** about you until your re-enlistment comes up. By that time, you;ve already had it and are just waiting to give them the finger. As far as programs for discharged personnel, there are more programs now than there have ever been. Veterans receive GI bill, extra points for application for work, work programs to retrain vets for jobs, special medical services etc. Those who have served before 911 have paid for the right of current vets to reap the benefits from the communities. Which is the exact reason why we should be proactive in making sure that trend continues as vets. I am extremely grateful for the benefits people like my grandfather and parents lobbied for that I now receive. The least I can do, is try to help those that will come after me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabri1985 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 If you use what's offered to you being in the military is a great thing as far as opportunities to better yourself go. Also over here in the uk at least if you were in the military you have a great chance of getting into the police, my cuz was in the Marines then the sbs he now works for the London met. They jumped at the chance to get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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