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I saw on the internet that Canada seems to be having some problems with it's Indian population setting up blockades or roads,railways, and even some border crossings. Maybe they need to deal with them the old fashioned way and .........................

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So here is what is happening:

 

1) Indian Natives get money from the government every month. (IE. From working people's taxes)

2) The vast majority of them don't work. They do not contribute to the Canadian economy in any important way shape or form.

3) They demand more money for doing nothing. Money from OUR taxes from our work.

4) They block highways and railroad tracks, threatening to halt our economy.

 

btw, (4) is ILLEGAL and they should have been arrested. I'd wager any other group not made up of natives would be in jail.

 

Sums it up.

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Easy solution: give them their land back and leave.

 

Hey if it isn't classicboxer, the guy who is hard to tell when trolling or serious.

 

So let me get this straight, just because your ancestors came and lived on a piece of land (1/3 of a continent for a few hundred people in this scenario), that entitles you to own the land? And just because we non-natives were born from other ancestors and came here later on means we don't have any land?

 

Since when is the ownership of land/continents first come first serve? Or better yet, first living, first served?

 

You always amaze me mate.

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I think it's ****ing retarded that any nation give money to the Natives. Should America give money to everyone we've wronged? We will be paying Blacks/Mexicans/Indians/Asians and Women. It was the past people need to get over it. Times were tough back then it was a dog eat dog world if you had something that somebody else wanted you had to be ready to fight for it. Sucks to say but it's true.

 

Also if anyone should be paying then England should be paying these Indians bills they were the first ones to take the Indians land we were just creatures of habit and continued what the British taught us was ok to do.

 

PS: I am pro casino's tho should have mentioned that. So I am glad they can do that because every once in a while it's fun to blow some money at Pechanga and get their buffet as well.

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Yeah. Also, why do I need to pay $$ to Indians TODAY? Those Indians living today were not persecuted. THEIR ANCESTORS WERE. Just because someones ancestors wronged someone else s ancestors means I have to pay you now? That's also silly.... not to even mention my direct ancestors had nothing to do with the natives to begin with.... but now my tax dollars are going to other natives.... yeah, real fair.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

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First of all the "white people" don't want to go back on the original agreement, the natives want MORE.

 

Second of all, we shouldn't pay the natives money from our tax dollars just because their ancestors were here first to begin with. Why doesn't Mexico pay money to the descendants of Mayans?

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Imo the government should announce they are phasing out the free ride to natives. Give them a couple years to start finding work and maybe put in some training programs for them, and then phase out support over the following five years or so. After that they would only be eligable for the same support and benefits that anyone else would have access too.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

 

Resorting to insults equals a loss. The government agreed with my opinion when they signed the treaty, but white people have a history of going back on their word.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

Honestly ridiculous post.

 

A.Sort of unfair to assume that only "white" people agreed to this.

B. "white" people shouldn't have to pay for a god damn eternity for something their ancestors agreed upon.

 

You know what? **** it. I don't give a **** about Indians. As far as I'm concerned they are Americans if they aren't happy with that then they can get the **** out see if the French will pay them for just being alive.They are as native to that land as I am today. Their ancestry line didn't start there. They migrated there just as my ancestors did. They were born on this land and so was I.

 

 

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

 

Resorting to insults equals a loss. The government agreed with my opinion when they signed the treaty, but white people have a history of going back on their word.

 

Really? It's only white people who break their word? You say he's lost because he insults you and you pull a rediculous race argument like that?

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

Honestly ridiculous post.

 

A.Sort of unfair to assume that only "white" people agreed to this.

B. "white" people shouldn't have to pay for a god damn eternity for something their ancestors agreed upon.

 

You know what? **** it. I don't give a **** about Indians. As far as I'm concerned they are Americans if they aren't happy with that then they can get the **** out see if the French will pay them for just being alive.They are as native to that land as I am today. Their ancestry line didn't start there. They migrated there just as my ancestors did. They were born on this land and so was I.

 

 

The white Europeans, mostly England, came to North America and decimated the natives in a way that was worse then the Holocaust. You can believe whatever you want, but you can't change history. Asians and Africans didn't do it, white Europeans did it.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

 

Resorting to insults equals a loss. The government agreed with my opinion when they signed the treaty, but white people have a history of going back on their word.

 

Really? It's only white people who break their word? You say he's lost because he insults you and you pull a rediculous race argument like that?

 

Where does it say only? Also, read the previous post for the rest of the answer.

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So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

 

Resorting to insults equals a loss. The government agreed with my opinion when they signed the treaty, but white people have a history of going back on their word.

 

You compare me to Muslim dictators and then cry when I think your retarded? Good god kid grow a pair of balls.

 

Keep crying for about atrocities hundreds of years and pretending they are happening today.

I agree that reserves have turned into huge garbage dumps and the people are suffering, but its not the white man doing it, it's the chiefs and council ****ing the natives over.

 

One day I hope they rprotest the real thieves screwing them over. The ones with YOUR type of attitude.

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so can I ask all non-Englishmen to leave my land? Seems legit

Lol, imagine if they made or british decendents go back to britain. They'd have go to war with France to have enough land to accomodate everyone:D

 

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so can I ask all non-Englishmen to leave my land? Seems legit

 

You can ask anything. Leaving is better then being exterminated. My first answer was that if he didn't like the situation he could leave.

So there's a treaty where the government pays the natives for the rights to land and natural resources, and now the white people want to go back on the original agreement? I've heard that one before.

 

So me being born here means I am native to the land no different then the natives right?

 

The white people can do whatever they want. However, your justifications for your actions are just as bad as the dictators in the middle east.

 

So let me get this straight.

Natives were born here so the land is theirs.

 

I was born here,

my parents were born here,

my grandparents were born here, my kids, wife and her grandparents were born here.

Not one of our families, stole, took, killed for, or any variation of, to take land. We paid for it legally.

 

Yet you want to compare me to a dictator of the middle east because I figure we as Canadians, born and raised here should ALL be equal in this country?

 

I do have to ask, were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and maybe left alone in the bathtub under the water for a minute or five to long? Just curious.

 

Resorting to insults equals a loss. The government agreed with my opinion when they signed the treaty, but white people have a history of going back on their word.

 

You compare me to Muslim dictators and then cry when I think your retarded? Good god kid grow a pair of balls.

 

Keep crying for about atrocities hundreds of years and pretending they are happening today.

I agree that reserves have turned into huge garbage dumps and the people are suffering, but its not the white man doing it, it's the chiefs and council ****ing the natives over.

 

One day I hope they rprotest the real thieves screwing them over. The ones with YOUR type of attitude.

 

What does criticism have to do with "growing a pair of balls"? When you run out of material, you resort to insults. I'm saying that the people who say forget about the treaty, quit paying the natives, have the same ethics as the people who committed atrocities against the natives in the past.

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

He's not saying it's because HE doesn't like the treaty they should get rid of it. Realistically no matter what country you go to in the world, it belonged to someone else before hand. At some point the hand outs have to stop. The natives today have had a lot of the same chances as anyone else, in some ways more (free education and prioritized in hiring) in some less (low socio-economic status). They don't have to cut off the extras immediately but there is no real reason for them to have more benefits than anyone else.

 

I'm a strong believer in social programs but it has got to the point where many native people never even try for real jobs as they will just get hand outs for their whole lives so there is no reason for them too. Why should we have to support them when it has been generations since this happened? Help them become more self sufficient with training programs and leave it at that.

 

 

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So, if you guys don't like living on the Indian land then why not just leave? If you don't like it then get out of their territory. Simple solution!

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

He's not saying it's because HE doesn't like the treaty they should get rid of it. Realistically no matter what country you go to in the world, it belonged to someone else before hand. At some point the hand outs have to stop. The natives today have had a lot of the same chances as anyone else, in some ways more (free education and prioritized in hiring) in some less (low socio-economic status). They don't have to cut off the extras immediately but there is no real reason for them to have more benefits than anyone else.

 

I'm a strong believer in social programs but it has got to the point where many native people never even try for real jobs as they will just get hand outs for their whole lives so there is no reason for them too. Why should we have to support them when it has been generations since this happened? Help them become more self sufficient with training programs and leave it at that.

 

 

I guarantee that if you owned some land that had oil on it, and you leased it out so someone could take the oil, you would be pissed off if they said they would stop paying you, but wouldn't leave. It's not really a social program, it's a business deal.

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

He's not saying it's because HE doesn't like the treaty they should get rid of it. Realistically no matter what country you go to in the world, it belonged to someone else before hand. At some point the hand outs have to stop. The natives today have had a lot of the same chances as anyone else, in some ways more (free education and prioritized in hiring) in some less (low socio-economic status). They don't have to cut off the extras immediately but there is no real reason for them to have more benefits than anyone else.

 

I'm a strong believer in social programs but it has got to the point where many native people never even try for real jobs as they will just get hand outs for their whole lives so there is no reason for them too. Why should we have to support them when it has been generations since this happened? Help them become more self sufficient with training programs and leave it at that.

 

 

I guarantee that if you owned some land that had oil on it, and you leased it out so someone could take the oil, you would be pissed off if they said they would stop paying you, but wouldn't leave. It's not really a social program, it's a business deal.

 

Except you fail to realize you only own the land down 10 feet I believe and hold NO MINERAL rights with ownership. It's not a buisness deal, it was a way to avoid the slaughter of the natives.

 

Just another ignorant mad child kicking and screaming for more.

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

He's not saying it's because HE doesn't like the treaty they should get rid of it. Realistically no matter what country you go to in the world, it belonged to someone else before hand. At some point the hand outs have to stop. The natives today have had a lot of the same chances as anyone else, in some ways more (free education and prioritized in hiring) in some less (low socio-economic status). They don't have to cut off the extras immediately but there is no real reason for them to have more benefits than anyone else.

 

I'm a strong believer in social programs but it has got to the point where many native people never even try for real jobs as they will just get hand outs for their whole lives so there is no reason for them too. Why should we have to support them when it has been generations since this happened? Help them become more self sufficient with training programs and leave it at that.

 

 

I guarantee that if you owned some land that had oil on it, and you leased it out so someone could take the oil, you would be pissed off if they said they would stop paying you, but wouldn't leave. It's not really a social program, it's a business deal.

 

Except you fail to realize you only own the land down 10 feet I believe and hold NO MINERAL rights with ownership. It's not a buisness deal, it was a way to avoid the slaughter of the natives.

 

Just another ignorant mad child kicking and screaming for more.

 

But they agreed to pay for the oil. You, and the other native haters, keep writing your opinions, but try to represent them as facts.

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

Don't you understand its NOT their land?

 

1) We were born here

2) They were born here

 

Why is 1) giving free money to 2)?

 

Because 2) had his grandparents living here and 1) had his grandparents living somewhere else?

 

So just because your distant relatives were born somewhere on this continent, YOU now own 1/3 of it?

 

Good grief man

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

Don't you understand its NOT their land?

 

1) We were born here

2) They were born here

 

Why is 1) giving free money to 2)?

 

Because 2) had his grandparents living here and 1) had his grandparents living somewhere else?

 

So just because your distant relatives were born somewhere on this continent, YOU now own 1/3 of it?

 

Good grief man

 

By your logic squatters can come into someone's house and claim they have the same ownership rights as the people who really live there. It's not "free" money. You must see that, but are too stubborn to admit you were proven to be wrong.

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I think the point should be that a goverment what 200 years ago instead of doing the norm for that era and simply wiping out the inhabitants or enslaving them and taking the land over said here we will rent this land and pay you for ever and ever and making everyone else in the country born here or not forever and ever a slave to the indians. Yes the indians got screwed over but show me a society that was more or less invaded that did not suffer in some way. Is there anyone alive that is responsible for this no, is there anyone alive that had this done to them no, so maybe lets realize it is now 2013 and move on there is no reason why they need to be paid forever and ever. I saw a post on CBC forums that someone said they want their fare share well I am sure that the billions upon billions that the Canadian people have paid them and continue to pay them is more then their fare share. :-@

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The real atrocity here is you insulting people of being dictators and such.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. Why do I need to pay the natives TODAY? The natives I am paying TODAY did not get discriminated against. Further, I MYSELF or anyone else living today DID NOT discriminate the natives.

 

Why do I need to suffer and be discriminated against (taking my $ away giving them to others) because of something that happened GENERATIONS ago. That is UNFAIR and UNEQUAL treatment of citizens.

 

Grow up classic c'mon son

 

You are saying that you want the government to go back on their treaty because you don't like the agreement. Your argument is that you didn't sign the agreement. So, since the treaty basically says that the government knows the land belongs to the natives and the government is paying for the rights, then if they quit paying for the rights, they should lose the rights. That is where the history of white European descendants going back on their treaties comes in. You are advocating that the Canadien government does it again. So, that's where the idea of "if you don't like the situation, just leave" comes in. It has nothing to do with "growing up", it's all about your greed.

 

Don't you understand its NOT their land?

 

1) We were born here

2) They were born here

 

Why is 1) giving free money to 2)?

 

Because 2) had his grandparents living here and 1) had his grandparents living somewhere else?

 

So just because your distant relatives were born somewhere on this continent, YOU now own 1/3 of it?

 

Good grief man

 

By your logic squatters can come into someone's house and claim they have the same ownership rights as the people who really live there. It's not "free" money. You must see that, but are too stubborn to admit you were proven to be wrong.

 

So should most western europeans move back into germany? Most of western europe was taken over by various germanic tribes, taking over from the people who lived there before. See I can make rediculous examples too.

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Indians at some point migrated to north America just like we did they may have been here first but who gives a ****? People conquered countries all the time. It's the way **** was back in the day . We shouldn't just pay them because they were here first. Maybe they should have won the war. They didn't so we took their land should we pay all the Mexican bills because we took California?

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I saw on the internet that Canada seems to be having some problems with it's Indian population setting up blockades or roads,railways, and even some border crossings. Maybe they need to deal with them the old fashioned way and .........................

 

And give them good chunks of their land back, let them set up shop and watch them succeed!

 

 

 

 

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Hahahahahaha watch them succeed at what? They have been getting a free ride for so long now they should have built anything they would ever need or want. But they just sit around collecting their free $$$$ for doing nothing and being nothing. [-X

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I saw on the internet that Canada seems to be having some problems with it's Indian population setting up blockades or roads,railways, and even some border crossings. Maybe they need to deal with them the old fashioned way and .........................

 

Let them know its 2013 and their land was taken away a very long time ago and it's no longer their land, they need to be treated like everyone else, shut the f--- up, stop drinking and beating your wives and children and get a job.

 

In 2013 Indians have as much right to Canada and America as you and I do. They are not better nor deserve ANYTHING you and I don't deserve.

 

I don't feel bad for anyone....especially Indians in America. They don't pay taxes, make money from the government and are allowed to do things illeagel that Americans aren't allowed to do.

 

The planet and territory belongs to everyone not just the f---ing Indians.

 

 

 

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Let them know its 2013 and their land was taken away a very long time ago and it's no longer their land, they need to be treated like everyone else, shut the f--- up, stop drinking and beating your wives and children and get a job.

 

In 2013 Indians have as much right to Canada and America as you and I do. They are not better nor deserve ANYTHING you and I don't deserve.

 

I don't feel bad for anyone....especially Indians in America. They don't pay taxes, make money from the government and are allowed to do things illeagel that Americans aren't allowed to do.

 

The planet and territory belongs to everyone not just the f---ing Indians.

 

 

 

The Indians did try to share the land when they first got here. It didn't work out very well for them....

 

They were lied to numerous times. The law was broken many times and so were treaties, treaties that were in favor of the tribes. Its must be real easy to just dust over these legal matters after breaking the law... Oh well..... But not for those whose past and history was effected. The Indians have the right to take up these legal matters. I don't know about Canada, but its pretty clear in the states.....

 

"Over 500 treaties were made with American Indian tribes, primarily for land cessations, but 500 treaties were also broken, changed or nullified when it served the government’s interests."

 

http://blog.nrcprograms.org/treaties-made-treaties-broken/

 

 

Now, not all Indian tribes are doing bad, and not all are on well fair. I am like 95 percent white but I always had my Indian Card, since I could prove my Cherokee ancestry. As a Cherokee, we ain't doing so bad. I have friends that are all types and I don't want to see them leaving any time soon.

 

 

 

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Let them know its 2013 and their land was taken away a very long time ago and it's no longer their land, they need to be treated like everyone else, shut the f--- up, stop drinking and beating your wives and children and get a job.

 

In 2013 Indians have as much right to Canada and America as you and I do. They are not better nor deserve ANYTHING you and I don't deserve.

 

I don't feel bad for anyone....especially Indians in America. They don't pay taxes, make money from the government and are allowed to do things illeagel that Americans aren't allowed to do.

 

The planet and territory belongs to everyone not just the f---ing Indians.

 

 

 

The Indians did try to share the land when they first got here. It didn't work out very well for them....

 

They were lied to numerous times. The law was broken many times and so were treaties, treaties that were in favor of the tribes. Its must be real easy to just dust over these legal matters after breaking the law... Oh well..... But not for those whose past and history was effected. The Indians have the right to take up these legal matters. I don't know about Canada, but its pretty clear in the states.....

 

"Over 500 treaties were made with American Indian tribes, primarily for land cessations, but 500 treaties were also broken, changed or nullified when it served the government’s interests."

 

http://blog.nrcprograms.org/treaties-made-treaties-broken/

 

 

Now, not all Indian tribes are doing bad, and not all are on well fair. I am like 95 percent white but I always had my Indian Card, since I could prove my Cherokee ancestry. As a Cherokee, we ain't doing so bad. I have friends that are all types and I don't want to see them leaving any time soon.

 

 

 

Well sorry but i agree with the prior comment this is 2013 and yes i agree with you as well they got screwed but now its everyone else getting screwed for some many many many moons ago that said we shall enslave all future generations to pay for yours. 2013 get over it already crap happens move on and live like everyone else the land is no more theirs as it is mine. 8-}

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If we weren't complete dumb asses we would just legalize gambling in California and get tax revenue off of that. Pechanga/Sequian(can't spell that stupid casino) and Pala bring in insane amounts of money that could easily be taxed. The Indians get all that revenue tax free it's crazy!!! To give Pechanga credit they do hire a lot of regular people. Then again why would a Pechangan work? My friend is Pechangan he gets 10,000 a month to just be alive. If he has kids he gets more money and the older he gets the more money gets. Seriously you should see his house it's amazing it's tricked the **** out too. Some of you might not think 10,000 a month is that good but there's no taxes on that. That's actual spending money his brother gets 10,000 a month too and they live together so I would say they live pretty ****ing comfortable for 25 yr olds.

 

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If we weren't complete dumb asses we would just legalize gambling in California and get tax revenue off of that. Pechanga/Sequian(can't spell that stupid casino) and Pala bring in insane amounts of money that could easily be taxed. The Indians get all that revenue tax free it's crazy!!! To give Pechanga credit they do hire a lot of regular people. Then again why would a Pechangan work? My friend is Pechangan he gets 10,000 a month to just be alive. If he has kids he gets more money and the older he gets the more money gets. Seriously you should see his house it's amazing it's tricked the **** out too. Some of you might not think 10,000 a month is that good but there's no taxes on that. That's actual spending money his brother gets 10,000 a month too and they live together so I would say they live pretty ****ing comfortable for 25 yr olds.

 

You are wrong about Indian casinos not being taxed. Arnold made all the tribes sign agreements to pay taxes when he took office. Sure, the tribes with big casinos get a lot of money, but they pay taxes.

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I can find no evidence to support that claim. Can you post a link? I'm not calling you a liar but I can see him talking **** on Indian reservations but no evidence the bill was passed. Also It has to be specific to California I think Indian tribes pay taxes on the casino's in other states.

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I can find no evidence to support that claim. Can you post a link? I'm not calling you a liar but I can see him talking **** on Indian reservations but no evidence the bill was passed. Also It has to be specific to California I think Indian tribes pay taxes on the casino's in other states.

 

I don't have any links, but the agreements are called compacts, you can look that up. The last I heard, the tribes total payment was around $300 million a year in California. The payment comes right out of the casino revenues, and then they distribute the rest of the money to their tribal members. I'm not sure if the individual tribal members pay taxes, but the casino revenue is taxed.

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