HappyFeet 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I think so. His domination of one of MMA's greatest wrestlers really does prove it too, I don't see how one could disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyFeet 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Jones doesn't have BJJ, he has bully submissions. Saying Jones has great BJJ is pure ignorance. He almost got armbarred by a MW, and barely defended it. Not the sign of a true BJJ ace like Maia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OzPride 28,026 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Yes. Fitch is easily top 3-5 wrestler at WW and has never been completely neutralized on the ground and his sub defence is indeed legit - Maia owned him. I want to see Maia vs Hendricks and Fitch vs Woodley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carnages 62,427 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carnages 62,427 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him That is quite legit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pigs-On-The-Wing 6,220 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him That is quite legit He got subbed by Dan Lauzon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carnages 62,427 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him That is quite legit He got subbed by Dan Lauzon. Thread said nothing about sub defense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pigs-On-The-Wing 6,220 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU He outwrestled Volkman and then subbed him That is quite legit He got subbed by Dan Lauzon. Thread said nothing about sub defense BJJ = sub defense as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultimatefightingchamp 21 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Haha carnages was too funny in this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodrodMMA92 18 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Carnages makes solid points. But I have the Maia thread for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunchBag 4,863 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 i think fitch tried to keep it standing but he jsut isnt used to using wrestling in reverse, hes only good at artttacking and being agressive which was something he didnt plan to do agaisnt maia, he wanted to keep it on the feet and avoid the ground game which he just wasn't comfortable with and maia has improved his TDs. agaisnt GSP i just dont see him being effective but hopefully maia can prove me wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yesterdays_Hero 24,043 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 He was always #2 to Brock and the Brock Lock, now that Brock has retired he is #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaksame 756 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 He pretty much relies on ONE aspect of BJJ and i wouldn't call it a bjj only move and that is the Rnc.His wrestling is nothing,he is only successful because fighters are afraid of his grappling,sop instead of making him pay for carelessly coming in,they try to scramble and run,it makes it super easy for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMmaKnowItAll 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say yes, but lets see Maia vs Shields or Diaz too prove it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megaman 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 He pretty much relies on ONE aspect of BJJ and i wouldn't call it a bjj only move and that is the Rnc.His wrestling is nothing,he is only successful because fighters are afraid of his grappling,sop instead of making him pay for carelessly coming in,they try to scramble and run,it makes it super easy for him. So in other words... He's he best wrestler/BJJ fighter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyte 22,541 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I would say Bobby Green is the best wrestler/ sub artist This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmoGOAT 14,709 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmoGOAT 14,709 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Combo? Definitely Maia. I would say GSP would be strong enough to stop Maia's TDs but if Maia got GSP's back in a scramble or something, it would be a wrap. I want to see Maia fight again ASAP. thought i remember reading somewhere that shields was coming back to 170. That match up would help heal the butt hurt of never getting to see Maia/Palhares Im all for Shields getting destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbrahams 861 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 I think he is, but I think he won't be able to get takedowns against GSP, but if he did get them to the ground then he'd probably do quite well, but against an awesome striker with good TDD he might have trouble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetatronBJJ 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2013 Jones doesn't have BJJ, he has bully submissions. Saying Jones has great BJJ is pure ignorance. He almost got armbarred by a MW, and barely defended it. Not the sign of a true BJJ ace like Maia. I agree. Jones is probably my fav fighter to see, but he just muscles a lot of his submissions. Once I see his De La Riva guard, I'll make my decision lol. I still like GSP as the best combo though at the moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
