MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 So, there have been people saying it's because of their built and them not having enough power and so on. but I believe that it is a fact that they just don't have the proper technique. When do you see a good technical striking match between to women in the UFC ? tbh i haven't really seen one, which would make a point for them just not being as technical. If you look at rousey/tate..except for the high level grappling you saw, the stand-up reminded me of a street fight. then you have those exceptions like holly holm. IMO she has very good technical striking. And you see her finishing her opponents all the time. Which makes you see that women actually can get K.O's. It's like the whole world of WMMA just need more time right now to evolve into the right direction. Once that happens and the striking level reaches a higher level, we will start seeing more and more k.o's in the womens division. Also people used to say that flyweights don't have the built to knockout eachother. Now you see guys in there like dodson and lineker knocking guys out with pure power it almost seems. And you have Mighty Mouse who nobody can deny has the best technique by far in his division and he is more and more getting into it, knocking out a very durable Benavidez. So what do you think? Discuss. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaksame Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Technique ! ...Exactly,i have never in my life seen a women throw a strike that looked coordinated.Hence the aged old insult `You swing like a girl`or `you hit like a girl`. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Technique ! ...Exactly,i have never in my life seen a women throw a strike that looked coordinated.Hence the aged old insult `You swing like a girl`or `you hit like a girl`. Hammer fists are basically "girl's punches", but if you have enough power they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBison Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 They have no power end of thread. There are plenty of guys with no "proper" technique with tons of power just look at Roy Nelson or Gomi. Like people say power is something you are born with or not... and SUPPRISE females are not born with any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyte Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Power aspect indeed. A majority of them don't really have that crisp striking except for maybe Alexis Davis who did well in her last fight. Pena might be the new breed. Her technique is pretty solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 They have no power end of thread. There are plenty of guys with no "proper" technique with tons of power just look at Roy Nelson or Gomi. Like people say power is something you are born with or not... and SUPPRISE females are not born with any. If you read the op, i'm trying to say that they could make up for that power deficit with proper technique. But the evolution of WMMA just isn't there right now. Hence the lack of Knockouts. And also Roy and Gomi are just examples of having power while being less technical. But you gotta see, if roy started working on his muay thai or just boxing even..he would break into the top 10 with ease (although it might be too late for him) but combining power with technique is the best you can do. Women don't have the power, i agree. but that is absolutely no excuse for a 5% K.O rate in their division. Their technique will evolve with time and we will get to see not so powerful women with crisp striking tagging and knocking their opponents out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobmyster Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you build it they will come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBison Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 They have no power end of thread. There are plenty of guys with no "proper" technique with tons of power just look at Roy Nelson or Gomi. Like people say power is something you are born with or not... and SUPPRISE females are not born with any. If you read the op, i'm trying to say that they could make up for that power deficit with proper technique. But the evolution of WMMA just isn't there right now. Hence the lack of Knockouts. And also Roy and Gomi are just examples of having power while being less technical. But you gotta see, if roy started working on his muay thai or just boxing even..he would break into the top 10 with ease (although it might be too late for him) but combining power with technique is the best you can do. Women don't have the power, i agree. but that is absolutely no excuse for a 5% K.O rate in their division. Their technique will evolve with time and we will get to see not so powerful women with crisp striking tagging and knocking their opponents out. I don't know.. The girls really slug it out, yet there are no KOs. Also back when the UFC was way less technical (tank abbott days) the KO rate was way higher. If the women becaome more technical as a whole, this will not translate in more KOs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 They have no power end of thread. There are plenty of guys with no "proper" technique with tons of power just look at Roy Nelson or Gomi. Like people say power is something you are born with or not... and SUPPRISE females are not born with any. If you read the op, i'm trying to say that they could make up for that power deficit with proper technique. But the evolution of WMMA just isn't there right now. Hence the lack of Knockouts. And also Roy and Gomi are just examples of having power while being less technical. But you gotta see, if roy started working on his muay thai or just boxing even..he would break into the top 10 with ease (although it might be too late for him) but combining power with technique is the best you can do. Women don't have the power, i agree. but that is absolutely no excuse for a 5% K.O rate in their division. Their technique will evolve with time and we will get to see not so powerful women with crisp striking tagging and knocking their opponents out. I don't know.. The girls really slug it out, yet there are no KOs. Also back when the UFC was way less technical (tank abbott days) the KO rate was way higher. If the women becaome more technical as a whole, this will not translate in more KOs IMO. the tank abott days though were mostly people who weren't even used to getting hit in the face too much. and then they went up against people like abott with tons of power and got destroyed. even if they slug it out, that doesn't always make for a k.o , just look at bonnar vs griffin. they both don't have k.o power exactly or great technique. if you look at a fight like andrade vs sexton you also realize that women are very durable (or the lack of power atleast makes them look like it). I mean andrade was putting it on sexton and swinging wild, but if she had picked her shots and gotten was more technical in her approach she might have finished her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyte Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 More fighters need to learn how to Cyborg Santos. aka become a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus__ Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 It's not technique, as I know at least one woman who mastered it and yet wasn't able to knock people out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 It's not technique, as I know at least one woman who mastered it and yet wasn't able to knock people out. Didnt try is not wasnt able to. Gsp was very well able to k.o people. He just didnt want to take any risk at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
najma Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Didnt try is not wasnt able to. Gsp was very well able to k.o people. He just didnt want to take any risk at allExactly.He never punched harder than 75%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poonmachine Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Didnt try is not wasnt able to. Gsp was very well able to k.o people. He just didnt want to take any risk at allExactly.He never punched harder than 75%. yeah right he threw everything he had at shields and couldn't ko him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 a better thread would of been "why we don't need to see KOs in WMMA." Their divisions are ****ing great on their own. I don't watch MMA for the KOs. Its a nice byproduct but not what draws me. People really need to watch Invicta before talking about how they know WMMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Julianna is the only woman fighter with power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 A fighter chooses whether or not they are fighting for points, or for a finish. I could imagine that game plans can change at the snap of a lower left leg. There was recently a great point fighting Champion, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poonmachine Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Julianna is the only woman fighter with power Pena Vs Nunes would be a good match-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12еr Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 @mrbison that picture gets me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14er Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I thought we never see knockouts in wmma is because nobody was watching wmma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajeitto Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think it's a combination of poor technique, small size, lack of natural power, and lack of speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 stop being ignorant and watch invicta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 stop being ignorant and watch invicta. I, recently, saw an Invicta FC card where there was a first round TKO by Rowdy followed by Rowdy's refusal to shake hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyte Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 a better thread would of been "why we don't need to see KOs in WMMA." Their divisions are ****ing great on their own. I don't watch MMA for the KOs. Its a nice byproduct but not what draws me. People really need to watch Invicta before talking about how they know WMMA. He didn't say WMMA was bad or anything, he was just asking why there aren't many KO's. I think you're understanding no KO's in WMMA=crap fighters, which is not what is being said, at least from my point of view. They don't need KO's to be exciting because most of their fights are good anyways. A lot end by submission anyways and I think subs are just as good as KO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIRKO_CRO_GOD Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 a better thread would of been "why we don't need to see KOs in WMMA." Their divisions are ****ing great on their own. I don't watch MMA for the KOs. Its a nice byproduct but not what draws me. People really need to watch Invicta before talking about how they know WMMA. He didn't say WMMA was bad or anything, he was just asking why there aren't many KO's. I think your understanding no KO's in WMMA=crap fighters, which is not what is being said, at least from my point of view. They don't need KO's to be exciting because most of their fights are good anyways. A lot end by submission anyways and I think subs are just as good as KO's. +1 thanks nyteryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs-On-The-Wing Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 a better thread would of been "why we don't need to see KOs in WMMA." Their divisions are ****ing great on their own. I don't watch MMA for the KOs. Its a nice byproduct but not what draws me. People really need to watch Invicta before talking about how they know WMMA. He didn't say WMMA was bad or anything, he was just asking why there aren't many KO's. I think you're understanding no KO's in WMMA=crap fighters, which is not what is being said, at least from my point of view. They don't need KO's to be exciting because most of their fights are good anyways. A lot end by submission anyways and I think subs are just as good as KO's. that wasn't necessarily being directed at Mirko. More towards the people who don't give WMMA the time of day. I also don't agree its their lack of technique. Most of them have fantastic technique with what their primary weapon is, but there is another factor to consider. The fact that the girls don't have the same genetic and natural power that most guys have allows them to be able to take more risks and go off the beaten path without having to worry as much about that flash KO. The guys need to remain more technically sound because of that larger risk of being KOd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 a better thread would of been "why we don't need to see KOs in WMMA." Their divisions are ****ing great on their own. I don't watch MMA for the KOs. Its a nice byproduct but not what draws me. People really need to watch Invicta before talking about how they know WMMA. He didn't say WMMA was bad or anything, he was just asking why there aren't many KO's. I think you're understanding no KO's in WMMA=crap fighters, which is not what is being said, at least from my point of view. They don't need KO's to be exciting because most of their fights are good anyways. A lot end by submission anyways and I think subs are just as good as KO's. that wasn't necessarily being directed at Mirko. More towards the people who don't give WMMA the time of day. I also don't agree its their lack of technique. Most of them have fantastic technique with what their primary weapon is, but there is another factor to consider. The fact that the girls don't have the same genetic and natural power that most guys have allows them to be able to take more risks and go off the beaten path without having to worry as much about that flash KO. The guys need to remain more technically sound because of that larger risk of being KOd. Way more head kicks in WMMA. Women are so much more flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You mean KOs or TKOs, I think thats there's plenty of female fighters capable of stopping opponents with strikes, but I agree with you that you won't see many flash KOs where they're asleep for five minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 but then again, there's a lot of male fighters that can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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