MachidaSilva Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I see lots of comments saying on here and various other sites "lucky punch" "he wont be lucky twice" etc.. STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Other than Anderson vs Vitor 1 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 there is luck in everything sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Other than Anderson vs Vitor 1 No Edgar & GSP vs Penn 1 got lucky with the decisions. Penn too GOAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Other than Anderson vs Vitor 1 No Edgar & GSP vs Penn 1 got lucky with the decisions. Penn too GOAT. thats not luck thats corruption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Other than Anderson vs Vitor 1 No Edgar & GSP vs Penn 1 got lucky with the decisions. Penn too GOAT. thats not luck thats corruption bastards either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yea....see Matt Hughes vs Carlos newton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes but you can't **** and moan about it because that's the way it goes. Every fighter will have luck on their side and against them at some point during their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmoGOAT Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 In a sport like MMA I'm going to say no but lucky bounces definitely exist in sports played with balls like in the NFL/NBA/MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Saved by the bell = luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellequin Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yes, but that doesn't necessarily make a win illegitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus__ Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Obviously, as every sport has its random factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Of course, e.g I never throw a hook to the area just behind the ear, but if it lands there and you drop I'm obviously going to take advantage of the good fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Absolutely Look at every fight GSP has ever finished Pure luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTC Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Chance favours the prepared mind -Under Seige 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 As in Aldo is lucky that Faber can't check a kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yes!!! Like GSP winning the decision over Hendricks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Absolutely Look at every fight GSP has ever finished Pure luck Did he ever finish a fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 to the 7 retards that voted no, do you prefer retard or troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 The word 'luck' in relation to martial arts is typically used by people who have never really trained and competed. I answered no but the question is very vague and if you accept the question the way it has been presented then my answer would be yes and I'll explain: Lower level MMA practitioners can certainly get lucky when they stray away from the techniques that they have trained and win by landing a bar room brawling type of haymaker, for example. However, at a high level such as the UFC, no luck does not play a role and is ridiculous to even consider. Since many people quickly threw around the "He got Lucky" rhetoric post Silva's last two losses, I'll use them as an example... Weidman and all UFC athletes train to land punches like the ones that Weidman landed to knock Silva out in their first fight. How is it a lucky punch if you throw punches to the face/head and you connect? Definition of Luck via Merriam-Webster: "the things that happen to a person because of chance : the accidental way things happen without being planned" Definition via Google: "success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions" If you can point out an MMA fight that ended when one fighter's face just happened to run into an opponent's fist which lead to a KO then please provide the link. Also, I'd like to see a link where a person was submitted by 'chance' rather than the fighter's own actions. Has Rousey ever accidentally submitted an opponent via accidental armbar? And if you'd like to rely on an extremely vague definition of the word then you can say that all winners had good look. Or you can say that every fighter is 'lucky' to get their chance to compete. But that's not the vague definition that we should be discussing, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 The word 'luck' in relation to martial arts is typically used by people who have never really trained and competed. . that's a very arrogant assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabri1985 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. To me that is the opposite of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 The word 'luck' in relation to martial arts is typically used by people who have never really trained and competed. . that's a very arrogant assumption I disagree and think that it's disrespectful to essentially refer to a fighter's dedicated training as, "luck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 The word 'luck' in relation to martial arts is typically used by people who have never really trained and competed. . that's a very arrogant assumption I disagree and think that it's disrespectful to essentially refer to a fighter's dedicated training as, "luck." your assumption is very arrogant if you think its typically used by people who have never really trained or competed. I have done both and know a lot of fighters and they would agree with me, luck does sometimes play a part in every aspect of their careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6XStringz_ Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I consider fighters lucky to win when it's a close decision and fans are half and half on who won. I mean it can go either way, and it was just your lucky night that it went yours if you got the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Example, Moraga was lucky to walk away with that decision that he should have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrodMMA92 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. So one fight that you can "break down" makes your statement completely true? Luck plays a part of it. If you want to disagree go break your jimmies elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. So one fight that you can "break down" makes your statement completely true? Luck plays a part of it. If you want to disagree go break your jimmies elsewhere. Somebody gave a specific example and I explained why I disagreed. The word "Luck", when stated within the context of this discussion, is only used by newbs. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. So one fight that you can "break down" makes your statement completely true? Luck plays a part of it. If you want to disagree go break your jimmies elsewhere. Somebody gave a specific example and I explained why I disagreed. The word "Luck", when stated within the context of this discussion, is only used by newbs. Get over it. wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. So one fight that you can "break down" makes your statement completely true? Luck plays a part of it. If you want to disagree go break your jimmies elsewhere. Somebody gave a specific example and I explained why I disagreed. The word "Luck", when stated within the context of this discussion, is only used by newbs. Get over it. wrong **Compelling argument.** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 One that stands out to me was Scott smith vs Pete sell. Smith was completely done but he threw a Hail Mary punch and it landed he then collapsed on the floor, that to me is the definition of a lucky punch. No way!!! That's a perfect example of how you never give up and you stay focused. Smith barely hung on after being chopped down and then devastated by the body shot. He dipped and was about to give in to the pain but ended up catching Sell coming in with a nearly text-book right cross. The reason why I say, 'near' text-book is only because his arms had dropped while dealing with that body shot. That was a good punch. So one fight that you can "break down" makes your statement completely true? Luck plays a part of it. If you want to disagree go break your jimmies elsewhere. Somebody gave a specific example and I explained why I disagreed. The word "Luck", when stated within the context of this discussion, is only used by newbs. Get over it. wrong **Compelling argument.** well you decided to ignore my last post, and you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 No I didn't and no I'm not. But thanks for your interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 No I didn't and no I'm not. But thanks for your interest. Yes you did and you are. funny that one post is the only post you failed to answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 No I didn't and no I'm not. But thanks for your interest. Yes you did and you are. funny that one post is the only post you failed to answer I have no idea what you're referring to. Ask this amazing question again please and thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 No I didn't and no I'm not. But thanks for your interest. Yes you did and you are. funny that one post is the only post you failed to answer I have no idea what you're referring to. Ask this amazing question again please and thanks in advance. cant answer it so make a stupid remark instead. well done you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 How is asking you to ask your question again a, "stupid remark"? Within the time that it took you to post that ignorant comment you could've reposted your question. If you want a question answered then ask it and stop playing your childish trolling game, kiddo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 How is asking you to ask your question again a, "stupid remark"? Within the time that it took you to post that ignorant comment you could've reposted your question. If you want a question answered then ask it and stop playing your childish trolling game, kiddo. and in the time you have posted these comments you could have read the post and replied, interesting you didn't.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Absolutely Look at every fight GSP has ever finished Pure luck The Phoque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I checked the other page several comments ago, genius. You haven't asked any compelling question, let alone one that I needed to avoid. Get over yourself and ask the question or troll elsewhere. Predictable and cowardly reply in 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I checked the other page several comments ago, genius. You haven't asked any compelling question, let alone one that I needed to avoid. Get over yourself and ask the question or troll elsewhere. Predictable and cowardly reply in 3...2...1... lol its the only post you ignored, who's the coward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 There isn't an only post that I ignored, troll. Ask your question, coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 There isn't an only post that I ignored, troll. Ask your question, coward. another lame comment rather than address the post. who's the coward? hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Okay so you have no question. Why would you waste your time playing this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobar Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Okay so you have no question. Why would you waste your time playing this game? answer the comment is what I said, I never mentioned a question. you're the one playing games here, i'm just showing you up for it. and you don't like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLikeWater Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Okay so you have no question. Why would you waste your time playing this game? answer the comment is what I said, I never mentioned a question. you're the one playing games here, i'm just showing you up for it. and you don't like it What in the world are you trolling about, weirdo? Answer a comment? Huh? People answer questions. Would you like me to respond to a comment? Well then stop playing these games and post this mysterious and earth shattering comment, troll. Are you lonely or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetshadeX Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 There's luck involved in all that is competition why would there be no luck in MMA?, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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