Junglebird Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Will you consider Wideman the GOAT and #1 p4p if he beats Vitor? Dana seems to think so. But all you guys' opinions matter more than Dana's, he just says anything to sell a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think it depends on how jones does against glover..... if jones smashed glover like he did to everyone but alex would keep him at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer9133 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 lol really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12еr Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 lol really? Dana said it at the pre fight scrum yesterday. he also said Barao is #1 p4p if he finishes faber last week. He'll call Jones #1 p4p when his fight gets closer too. I'd say Jones, Aldo, barao and weedman are the clear best right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 lol really? Wideman beat the undisputed GOAT p4p#1 twice in a row. If he beats Vitor (while on roids) I think that earns him p4p#1 status. Vitor on roids has been on a rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 depends how he does it. And it also depends how Vitor's couple next fight go as well. Just like when Jones pwned Shogun.. when these long time legend start to fade you kinda wanna know if they still had it when they got beat or if they were on the down side. If Vitor loses but then destroys a couple guys it'll be a very significant win for Weidman. Like he did after he lost to Silva. But if say he wins and then goes to lose to Bisping.. and then to munoz.. well.. that win won't look so significant. Weidman's p4p status will climb with time and the number of title defenses. So far he was kinda untested before he faced Silva. Munoz was his biggest win... And maybe we're gonna see Silva suck badly from now and since he's 39, that itself wouldn't help Weidman's fame too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofDeath Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Cain, Barao, and Aldo are easily the P4P best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofDeath Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 If WeidGOAT beats Vitor, then Machida and/or Jacare, I'd defnitely say he's in the conversation for P4P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer9133 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 lol really? Wideman beat the undisputed GOAT p4p#1 twice in a row. If he beats Vitor (while on roids) I think that earns him p4p#1 status. Vitor on roids has been on a rampage i need to see a few more of his fights before i make an assessment if he beats vitor and machida/moose then we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourthnorseman Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Weidgoat already FINISHED p4p goat twice. That says it all I think.... When he destroys Roidgoat it will be undisputable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 LOL, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 If WeidGOAT beats Vitor, then Machida and/or Jacare, I'd defnitely say he's in the conversation for P4P. But what if the exact same happens for barao/aldo/jones who has more defense against the top of their division as well. As long as those three keep winning and if they win decisively then i couldnt put weidman above them I think Cain and Weidman are fighting for 4th spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofDeath Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Fair point. I also hadn't taken into consideration that Cain's last five fights have been against the same two people. But I guess that's because the heavyweight situation is similar to the one in bantamweight, where no one seems to be able to beat the top one or two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.N.I.C. Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 you said it, every UFC champ is p4p come fight time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMMAFansSuck Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 He's already #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 i think if he beats vitor hes well on his way, but vitor isnt going to be on trt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATSTER Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Jones, Aldo, and Mighty GOAT have more defenses. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 i think if he beats vitor hes well on his way, but vitor isnt going to be on trt He's going to apply for his steroid exemption, chances are now that Keith Kizer has left he'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashflow Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Vitor won't fight if he isn't on the juice. I expect an "injury" in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 No Weidman p4p threads till 2016 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Vitor won't fight if he isn't on the juice. I expect an "injury" in training. And Machida steps up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Jones is #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Vitor won't fight if he isn't on the juice. I expect an "injury" in training. And Machida steps up? I would FAP so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think he needs more fights to earn the title #1 P4P but he definitely has the capability to do so. I am leaning more towards Barrao or Aldo at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think it's quite premature to begin calling someone the #1 P4P fighter in the world before they've had a convincing defense of their title. I get that he dethroned the king, but beating the best doesn't default you to their previous status. Jon Jones has been far more dominate, for much longer, and has shown virtually no signs of weakness against what I would consider to be a more impressive line up of fighters. Not saying Weidman couldn't eventually be the best fighter in the world, just that it's premature based on his limited career thus far to claim it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Yes. Three words people, Level of Competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGun Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think it's quite premature to begin calling someone the #1 P4P fighter in the world before they've had a convincing defense of their title. I get that he dethroned the king, but beating the best doesn't default you to their previous status. Jon Jones has been far more dominate, for much longer, and has shown virtually no signs of weakness against what I would consider to be a more impressive line up of fighters. Not saying Weidman couldn't eventually be the best fighter in the world, just that it's premature based on his limited career thus far to claim it already. Weidman would beat Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATSTER Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Yes. Three words people, Level of Competition. You can't call Anderson a can who needs to be cut from the UFC only to say that Chris has the best level of competition beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGun Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Yes. Three words people, Level of Competition. You can't call Anderson a can who needs to be cut from the UFC only to say that Chris has the best level of competition beat. Fake Weidman Fan never makes sense, thats because he's got downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I suppose by the New Forum Rules Weidman will be the Goat until he gets beat at which point he will be a can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Yes. Three words people, Level of Competition. You can't call Anderson a can who needs to be cut from the UFC only to say that Chris has the best level of competition beat. Lol and when did I ever say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Jon Jones has been far more dominate, for much longer, and has shown virtually no signs of weakness against . Viking punches. He couldn't hang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherFrequency Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12еr Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. that's true, she's Weidman with tits. What a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_KO Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I absolutely think so. He beat the "GOAT" 2 straight fights and not only won but dominated him and knocked him out. Vitor is on a run only because of Roids. Weidman is going to humiliate Vitor in their fight and no body from that division is going to touch Weidman. He is too good and way to well rounded for any fighter left in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer9133 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. i agree he knows rousey is more dominant than weidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 He has 1 defense and...... nothing else. He is far from number one. Him being above Barao is ****ing retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_H. Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Weidman will be p4p when and if he beats Machida but he won't. Machida is too elusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. well I would simply say because the competition in WMMA is obviously more shallow than men's competition so until there's been a couple generation of WMMA fighters it'll be impossible to rank them in the P4P ranking aside with the men. Also because even P4P males are usually stronger than women, so as good as Ronda is she'd probably get ragdolled by fighters who could make her weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy_Balzonya Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 IMO even if he smashes Vitor, he's still not P4P #1. He would be close, but would defiantly need a few more wins. Sure he's undefeated, but other than Silva, and potentially Vitor, he hasn't had the level of competition yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy_Balzonya Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Women and men being on the same P4P is BS too. No wayyyy Rhonda beats Faber and she is ranked higher? I'm sorry but that's BS. I get she has been dominant, but the skill level in women's MMA is pretty low right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weidman_the_weight_cutting_can_maia_1_2_3_4_5 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. i agree he knows rousey is more dominant than weidman Dude are you kidding me? First of all Ronda has TWO fights in the ufc, I repeat that as TWO total ufc fights against nobodies and she was GIFTED that ufc belt before ever doing a damn thing to earn it in the ufc just because dana thought she was "marketable" and gave him good head. Her first fight was against someone people never heard of until the ufc used her sexual orientation to hype the fight oh and ronda almost got choked out by her, a white belt lol. Who is Ronda's best win? ****ing miesha Tate?? The girl who punched ronda in the face repeatedly and then gassed after 1 round? Yea man that was clearly WAY more impressive than chris stopping Anderson with strikes twice. =)) =)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaksame Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Vitor is a 235 HW roider,so Weidman would definitely gain some big props.It actually puts Vitor way down any p4p lists because he is cheating so much both with weight and roids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. i agree he knows rousey is more dominant than weidman lol **** off Weidman dominated the best in the world in 2 fights Ronda struggled with a can in Meisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer9133 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. i agree he knows rousey is more dominant than weidman lol **** off Weidman dominated the best in the world in 2 fights Ronda struggled with a can in Meisha don't get mad brah i thought anderson was a can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Not to mention the fact that he has already beat the best of the best and never had a close fight, never been outstruck, outwrestled, or outgrappled. No other fighter in the ufc can say that. Ronda Rousey. LOL Wmma? =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) I fail to see why a woman should not be in consideration here. And if ever there was a dominate female presence in MMA, it is Rousey. She's only been taken out of the 1st round once, and she managed to finish 62% of her fights within one single minute. Perhaps most impressive of all is that it's by the same move, over and over again. Everyone knows exactly what she's going to do, and yet no one has ever been able to stop her from imposing her will and gameplan. Plus, she's only 3 behind Weidman in total career fights, which she's done in 2 fewer years - meaning she's been taking fights more frequently than Weidman has. The only detraction in Rousey's career is she has never faced Cyborg Santos (pardon me, I can't seem to remember what name she is using these days). I'm not saying I believe she is the best P4P fighter in the world, but she certainly has pieced together a resume that should requite more respect than your glib emoticons would seem to convey. i agree he knows rousey is more dominant than weidman lol **** off Weidman dominated the best in the world in 2 fights Ronda struggled with a can in Meisha don't get mad brah i thought anderson was a can? He is But compared to the competition Ronda faces he is GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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