UFCCagerattler Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/washington-death-penalty-inslee/5394917/ Washington governor suspends death penalty because it is inconsistent and unequal. This has been proven many times in many jurisdictions: if you are black you are more likely to be arrested, tried, found guilty and executed than if you are white. Aside from being an affront to law the death penalty is also hideously expensive. Many jurisdictions simply cannot afford to prosecute them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUF Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 ...or just don't murder people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBJF Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 seems like we need to kill more people; in a more timely basis. you stole a car... firing squad. you raped a chick... hanging. all in less than 1 week from the time they are accused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 its the most effective punishment going. people given the death sentence have a re-offending rate of 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_FTW Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 "But there have been too many doubts raised about capital punishment. There are too many flaws in the system. And when the ultimate decision is death, there is too much at stake to accept an imperfect system." That's a quote from within the article. If there is enough evidence to confirm a person killed or did horrible things, a death penalty should definitely be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 There is generally only enough evidence to convict and execute poor people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontline_Rioter Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Only rich celebrities and legendary running backs like OJ Simpson should be allowed to commit double homicide and get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontline_Rioter Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Bums like that patriots tight end didn't play enough seasons in the NFL to get away with murder. Hang him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChamp Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 i agree that the death penalty is inconsistant. they should have executed justin bieber the moment he step foot into america. that would be the greatest thing america has ever done for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 its the most effective punishment going. people given the death sentence have a re-offending rate of 0% Except for the fact that it costs millions of dollars for the appeals process to run it's course, and most people given the death penalty end up dying in prison of disease or old age, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Identity Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 You're inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTC Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I was reading somewhere recently that some states may go back to the electric chair due to the manufacturers of drugs used for lethal injections refusing to supply them. I'm going to have to look it up but going back to the chair is pretty brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTC Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's Virginia, but it sounds like a pretty strange situation http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/the-electric-chair-is-making-a-comeback-in-the-united-states/story-fnh81jut-1226819632633 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's pretty easy to make the whole death sentence process quicker and cheaper if our country wanted to quit hemorrhaging billions of dollars a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Criminals get better treatment than law abiding citizens. They get free healthcare, food, and shelter. We keep these inmates on death row for decades eating away our resources so they can appeal their case a billion times. The system should operate a lot faster. Furthermore, there should be no such thing as life in prison. If someone committed a crime so heinous that it requires life in prison, they should be put to death and spare the tax payers some serious money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripta Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 With the over population that is current in todays world, every crime committed that would render a person to serve 25+ years in prison should just simply be replaced with the death penalty. That's just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_FTW Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Criminals get better treatment than law abiding citizens. They get free healthcare, food, and shelter. We keep these inmates on death row for decades eating away our resources so they can appeal their case a billion times. The system should operate a lot faster. Furthermore, there should be no such thing as life in prison. If someone committed a crime so heinous that it requires life in prison, they should be put to death and spare the tax payers some serious money. Completely agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Those costs relate to far more than appeals, but even if they did there is nothing that can be done about it. You can't just rewrite the laws in order to execute people faster. Changing laws like that would take decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 They should make the death penalty profitable They should do it like they did it on Spartacus, take two murders and put them in a ring, they roll a dice and based on that they get a random weapon and they fight to the death That way these scum can actually do good for the economy before they die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 If you want the DP to be more effective at killing criminals then all you have to do is make it consistent and equal. When a white person has the same chances of being arrested, tried, convicted and executed as non white people then yo will have arrived at your goal. Way way more criminals will be executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Those costs relate to far more than appeals, but even if they did there is nothing that can be done about it. You can't just rewrite the laws in order to execute people faster. Changing laws like that would take decades. What other costs are involved besides the cost for injection, electricity, gas, etc? And your argument about changing laws is nothing more than a call to do nothing. Changing laws can be done quickly if there is a desire for change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Those costs relate to far more than appeals, but even if they did there is nothing that can be done about it. You can't just rewrite the laws in order to execute people faster. Changing laws like that would take decades. What other costs are involved besides the cost for injection, electricity, gas, etc? And your argument about changing laws is nothing more than a call to do nothing. Changing laws can be done quickly if there is a desire for change. In a death penalty case the the rules of evidence are much stricter. Things must be examined by experts of all stripes.Scientific examinations of things like DNA and bite marks must be run over and over again, Witnesses can be brought in from just about anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waikru Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Those costs relate to far more than appeals, but even if they did there is nothing that can be done about it. You can't just rewrite the laws in order to execute people faster. Changing laws like that would take decades. What other costs are involved besides the cost for injection, electricity, gas, etc? And your argument about changing laws is nothing more than a call to do nothing. Changing laws can be done quickly if there is a desire for change. In a death penalty case the the rules of evidence are much stricter. Things must be examined by experts of all stripes.Scientific examinations of things like DNA and bite marks must be run over and over again, Witnesses can be brought in from just about anywhere. Those are all costs related to the initial prosecution and subsequent appeals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We can't afford the DP the way it is now. YOu want to increase the number of DP by hundreds and thousands? Its too much money. We can keep dozens of men in for life for what it costs to execute one of them. The costs relating to putting someone to death are related to the costs of appeals, which would not be a factor if we had a better legal process. Those costs relate to far more than appeals, but even if they did there is nothing that can be done about it. You can't just rewrite the laws in order to execute people faster. Changing laws like that would take decades. What other costs are involved besides the cost for injection, electricity, gas, etc? And your argument about changing laws is nothing more than a call to do nothing. Changing laws can be done quickly if there is a desire for change. In a death penalty case the the rules of evidence are much stricter. Things must be examined by experts of all stripes.Scientific examinations of things like DNA and bite marks must be run over and over again, Witnesses can be brought in from just about anywhere. Those are all costs related to the initial prosecution and subsequent appeals.. Yes. The prosecution and the defence are both very costly in DP cases. That is the main reason many US jurisdictions refuse to prosecute them. Has nothing to do with right or wrong, it only has to do with dollars and cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontline_Rioter Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 ^ lol DP cases... you are doing that **** on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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