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@GilbertMelendez won't be punked by @danawhite if not careful our other guys will be leaving @ufc for @BellatorMMA

 

About time somebody stands up to this scumbag.

 

Dana White is trash and has been running his mouth a little too much lately. Bashing GSP, Bashing Overeem, Bashing JDS, Making homophobic slurs about Cyborg. I hope pulls a Gandolfini and croaks early for the sake of the sport.

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Remember what the UFC was like before the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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Dana was around the UFC before the Fertittas

 

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Managing fighters?

 

I mean in a position to make a difference in the sport, by being made President by the Fertittas

 

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He doesn't manage fighters now

 

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Remember what the UFC was like before the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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Fixed

 

Dana was around the UFC before the Fertittas

 

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Managing fighters?

 

I mean in a position to make a difference in the sport, by being made President by the Fertittas

 

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He doesn't manage fighters now

 

**** LoL

No ****

 

Managing UFC fighters was his involvement before being made President

 

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Remember what the UFC was like before the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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Fixed

 

Dana was around the UFC before the Fertittas

 

****

 

Managing fighters?

 

I mean in a position to make a difference in the sport, by being made President by the Fertittas

 

****

 

He doesn't manage fighters now

 

**** LoL

No ****

 

Managing UFC fighters was his involvement before being made President

 

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You missed the point.

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

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Remember what the UFC was like before the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

Fixed

 

Dana was around the UFC before the Fertittas

 

****

 

Managing fighters?

 

I mean in a position to make a difference in the sport, by being made President by the Fertittas

 

****

 

He doesn't manage fighters now

 

**** LoL

No ****

 

Managing UFC fighters was his involvement before being made President

 

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You missed the point.

Was no point, just WarWest talking normal bull****

 

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Lol I can just imagine Bellator getting Nate, Nick and Gil 3 big draws then Shields the fake scrap pack member the UFC would be losing 4 of there top fighters that's got to hurt.

 

Lmao because the world totally cared when they were in Strikefarce.

 

 

I watched Diaz and Gilbert in strikeforce quite alot of people did. I'm sure it would send fans who have watched Nate from the beginning of his career and people who jumped on the Nick and Gil train from the UFC days over to watching Bellator and having 4 guys like that would only help there fight cards all over not paying the fighters enough.

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@GilbertMelendez won't be punked by @danawhite if not careful our other guys will be leaving @ufc for @BellatorMMA

 

About time somebody stands up to this scumbag.

 

Dana White is trash and has been running his mouth a little too much lately. Bashing GSP, Bashing Overeem, Bashing JDS, Making homophobic slurs about Cyborg. I hope pulls a Gandolfini and croaks early for the sake of the sport.

what did he say about JDS? I don't recall him bashing JDS

 

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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you're right, they've done a lot for the sport.

 

I even stuck up for them up until last year.

 

But this past year and as they've gotten deeper into this fox deal I have been disgusted with the moves they've made.

 

We only hear what can be heard

 

We don't know about the present or long term benefits or small details that go into certain deals

 

As a business the first priority is to make money and when sometimes millions of dollars is riding on two fighters(main event) staying healthy and fighting, i guess they need guaranteed profit no matter what happens.

 

Idk what I'm talking about

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

 

Now lets compare current Pride, Shooto and Pancrase events to UFC events...

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

If Pride was doing so well, why did they get bought out by the inferior company?

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

 

Now lets compare current Pride, Shooto and Pancrase events to UFC events...

 

thats not the argument at hand. You stated zuffa and the fertittas saved MMA, I stated MMA was fine without them and cited examples to prove it. The argument wasn't did zuffa become the biggest product and buy out the competition. MMA was fine without zuffa and would be just fine without zuffa.

 

But since you want to compare act like there is no promotion that pulls crowds like zuffa I guess I will just have to go ahead and bring up One FC which consistently pulls UFC attendance numbers.

 

 

 

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

If Pride was doing so well, why did they get bought out by the inferior company?

 

Nobody said Zuffa didnt become the financial powerhouse that was able to buy them out. The argument is Zuffa saved mma, mma was dying in 2001. I simply pointed out it was doing just fine in 2001.

 

argue this all you want but MMA has thrived in japan long before, and long after zuffa.

 

Funny how One FC pulls UFC attendance on a consistent basis, hell their most recent event pulled better attendance THAN ALL BUT 2 UFC EVENT OVER THE PAST 2.5 YEARS.

 

Dana white and the fertittas didn't save a thing besides american MMA, where the lesser competition fought anyways

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

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yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

 

Now lets compare current Pride, Shooto and Pancrase events to UFC events...

 

thats not the argument at hand. You stated zuffa and the fertittas saved MMA, I stated MMA was fine without them and cited examples to prove it. The argument wasn't did zuffa become the biggest product and buy out the competition. MMA was fine without zuffa and would be just fine without zuffa.

 

But since you want to compare act like there is no promotion that pulls crowds like zuffa I guess I will just have to go ahead and bring up One FC which consistently pulls UFC attendance numbers.

 

 

 

I'm an MMA fan, not a UFC fan.

 

Pride was awesome and i believe both Pride and the UFC could of co-existed but Pride ruined it for themselves and luckily it was Zuffa/UFC who decided to take the reigns.

 

Though i kinda wished they would of kept going with Strikeforce purely for those fighters not quite ready for the life/stardom that the UFC brings and to slowly introduce them to what being successful at MMA could do. Also for those big names that have been dropped from the UFC

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

 

****

 

yes I do, warriors were battling it out in japan in an organization called PRIDE FC. 50,000 people watched the first pride 5 years before dana and the fertittas were ever involved in the sport. Maybe the UFC was crap but I assure you the sport was just fine without him you jack off.

 

 

Prides downfall was their own doing and MMA as a sport was about to die before it had taken off.

 

If Dana and the Fertittas hadn't of jumped on the opportunity, i don't think we'd be having this conversayion

 

lol you are wacked out man, Pride was pulling crowds of 50,000 easy, long before the fertittas showed up. The UFC has never pulled a crowd of 50,000. The UFC has never pulled a crowd HALF THAT SIZE. Go ahead tell me more about how if dana and the fertittas didnt come along to save mma, mma would be dead?

 

Maybe ****bags like you wouldnt be watching the sport and good riddance. I would have much rather watched the UFC die miserably and watched it thrive overseas as it always has.

The UFC has never had a crowd of 50,000? How about Shields vs GSP?

 

Tell me one successful MMA promotion, after the downfall of Pride and also pre-Zuffa ?

 

Shooto, and Pancrase both were very successful pre zuffa. Shooto is still very successful today.

 

Just cause you don't watch it doesnt mean it is not successful.

 

Also congratulations you found the one time in the entire history of the UFC they pulled a crowd of 50,000. Now explain how zuffa saved mma when pride was pulling 50,000 to 60,000 regularly, and at its peak was pulling 90,000??

 

Maybe zuffa saved american mma, but MMA was just fine elsewhere and the attendance gates I cited pre zuffa prove it.

 

 

Now lets compare current Pride, Shooto and Pancrase events to UFC events...

 

thats not the argument at hand. You stated zuffa and the fertittas saved MMA, I stated MMA was fine without them and cited examples to prove it. The argument wasn't did zuffa become the biggest product and buy out the competition. MMA was fine without zuffa and would be just fine without zuffa.

 

But since you want to compare act like there is no promotion that pulls crowds like zuffa I guess I will just have to go ahead and bring up One FC which consistently pulls UFC attendance numbers.

 

 

 

I'm an MMA fan, not a UFC fan.

 

Pride was awesome and i believe both Pride and the UFC could of co-existed but Pride ruined it for themselves and luckily it was Zuffa/UFC who decided to take the reigns.

 

Though i kinda wished they would of kept going with Strikeforce purely for those fighters not quite ready for the life/stardom that the UFC brings and to slowly introduce them to what being successful at MMA could do. Also for those big names that have been dropped from the UFC

 

I loved strikeforce, it was everything the UFC wasn't. It reminded me of pride, it was flashy, exciting, and was putting on really exciting fights. The UFC should have kept strikeforce or WEC, cause the fact is they now have no organization to develop talent and thus are forced to put on watered down cards. Not that I mind, I find people complaining about free events ridiculous. I see it like friday night fights for boxing. How are you gonna complain for free fights that are showing up and comers and giving them the opportunity to showcase their talent on the big stage. They gotta get their break somewhere, they gotta develop a fanbase somehow. Thats the issue UFC is having cause the UFC is the only place zuffa can do it.

 

Best example this year of fighters making a name. Hyun Gyu Lim. He earned a lot of fans for his fight against Tarec that never would have know who the hell he was. The next time people hear this kid is fighting they are gonna want to tune it. Its a good strategy, its just gonna take patience on our end to watch as it evolves.

 

I still think dana whites a bald twat for refusing to give gil the money he deserves. Dudes bragging about losing a million on one hand of black jack but wants to argue a few thousand on a contract?

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

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Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

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Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

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Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

 

How much are they paying you to post this?

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

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Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

 

How much are they paying you to post this?

 

Not enough

 

What the heads of the UFC have done is easily in my eyes one of the greatest achievements in business, in my lifetime anyway.

 

You guys just are whining like ****es all the time and maybe they should have done away with the UFC so you cans can carry on watching WWF or some ****

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Sure thing Dana.

 

If the UFC went out of business MMA would disappear forever. =))

 

MMA was around a long time before Zuffa, it just happens UFC is the dominant promotion and it's still a young promotion.

 

But you can act like a hippie, stand around with banners about how you can run the promotion better then them.

 

Retard

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@GilbertMelendez won't be punked by @danawhite if not careful our other guys will be leaving @ufc for @BellatorMMA

 

About time somebody stands up to this scumbag.

 

Dana White is trash and has been running his mouth a little too much lately. Bashing GSP, Bashing Overeem, Bashing JDS, Making homophobic slurs about Cyborg. I hope pulls a Gandolfini and croaks early for the sake of the sport.

what did he say about JDS? I don't recall him bashing JDS

 

 

called JDS a gatekeeper

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Nick Diaz vs. Dana White. NOW.

 

It would never happen. Diaz wouldn't show for the pressers.

Sure thing Dana.

 

If the UFC went out of business MMA would disappear forever. =))

 

MMA was around a long time before Zuffa, it just happens UFC is the dominant promotion and it's still a young promotion.

 

But you can act like a hippie, stand around with banners about how you can run the promotion better then them.

 

Retard

 

Pretty sure I never said I could. Why don't you tell me more about how the UFC is the greatest achievement in business in your lifetime. I'd really like you to break that down for me I could use a laugh.

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Nick Diaz vs. Dana White. NOW.

 

It would never happen. Diaz wouldn't show for the pressers.

Sure thing Dana.

 

If the UFC went out of business MMA would disappear forever. =))

 

MMA was around a long time before Zuffa, it just happens UFC is the dominant promotion and it's still a young promotion.

 

But you can act like a hippie, stand around with banners about how you can run the promotion better then them.

 

Retard

 

Pretty sure I never said I could. Why don't you tell me more about how the UFC is the greatest achievement in business in your lifetime. I'd really like you to break that down for me I could use a laugh.

A sport with barely any rules, banned in multiple states, looked down upon by most.

 

SEG was about to give up with the promotion until the Fertittas paid something like 2 million dollars. Zuffa has only had the promotion for about 15 years.

 

From being illegal in most places and losing money to being a billion dollar promotion in 20 years is a epic

 

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Nick's retired, and if White could justify cutting Shields...he prob would. And losing Gil and Nate in the stacked LW division wouldn't be that significant...but losing their fan draw would. $

 

However, I don't think White will allow anyone's threats to intimidate him...no matter how big of draw they are. I think he'd sooner shoot himself in his own foot. Stand by for a retaliatory response from him.

 

Good on Gracie for trying though. White's been taking pot-shots at too many fighters as of late.

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

****

Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

 

How much are they paying you to post this?

 

Not enough

 

What the heads of the UFC have done is easily in my eyes one of the greatest achievements in business, in my lifetime anyway.

 

You guys just are whining like ****es all the time and maybe they should have done away with the UFC so you cans can carry on watching WWF or some ****

 

Buying out the competition and monopolizing the talent

The Ultimate Fighter

The Pay Per View model

Fight for the Troops

The UFC Fight Pass

 

In the same breathe in which you insulted the WWF, you went on to call the UFC brilliant for copying everything the WWF did.

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Buying out the competition and monopolizing the talent

The Ultimate Fighter

The Pay Per View model

Fight for the Troops

The UFC Fight Pass

 

In the same breathe in which you insulted the WWF, you went on to call the UFC brilliant for copying everything the WWF did.

 

That's very true. You can compare what Zuffa did with the UFC to what Vince McMahon Jr. did with the WWF (now WWE). When Vince Jr. inherited the company from his father, he took it from a regional promotion (which was the standard for pro wrestling in that time) and went national. Many detractors told him that wrasslin' was a local sport and there couldn't be a successful national organization, but that's exactly what he did. He bought up all the smaller promotions, or if they wouldn't sell, hired away all their talent. He also established the WWF as a household name, so it almost became synonymous with pro wrestling. When WcW threatened the WWF in the mid/late 90's, it was war. Of course they eventually ended up buying it.

 

Zuffa did something similar to with the UFC. They didn't have to turn it into a national company or pioneer PPV as McMahon did, but they grew it to the point where they had brand recognition. How many times have you heard non-MMA fans simply refer to the sport as "UFC" or "Ultimate Fighting"? The picked off top talent and/or absorbed companies (WEC, WFA, PRIDE, Strikeforce).

 

While it was a very successful strategy, it comes with a cost. We've seen it in terms of strong-arm negotiating tactics, poor lower end fighter pay, etc. It's really not much different than what happens in the non-sport corporate world. A lot of it can also be blamed on poor management of these other companies (PRIDE and Strikeforce in particular). By not conducting their affairs more shrewdly, they played right into Zuffa's hands, just like Ted Turner's WCW floundered and fell right into the WWE's purse. Hopefully these other organizations can learn their lesson from past failures and stay strong.

 

I don't buy the whole "MMA is dying" nonsense. Sure, there will be down swings like in any other niche sport, but the UFC isn't going anywhere. People can rant and rave (and there are very valid complaints), but disgruntled forum users don't represent the majority of people buying the UFC's product.

 

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

****

Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

 

How much are they paying you to post this?

 

Not enough

 

What the heads of the UFC have done is easily in my eyes one of the greatest achievements in business, in my lifetime anyway.

 

You guys just are whining like ****es all the time and maybe they should have done away with the UFC so you cans can carry on watching WWF or some ****

 

Buying out the competition and monopolizing the talent

The Ultimate Fighter

The Pay Per View model

Fight for the Troops

The UFC Fight Pass

 

In the same breathe in which you insulted the WWF, you went on to call the UFC brilliant for copying everything the WWF did.

I didn't highlight any of those things.

 

I mean just the UFC being here today and being as big as they are is a huge achievement. As i said i would of liked both Pride and maybe Strikeforce to both co-exist along side the UFC. I'm not a fan of TUF though it did massive things for the sport and Fight Pass isn't really anything yet

 

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Remember what the sport was like before DANA and the Fertittas came on the scene

****

Remember how people travelled before they started using horses?

Yeah, but we don't use horses anymore, do we?

They were good for some period of time until we invented sth better.

 

White reached his potential as to where he could go with the UFC. Not it needs someone different to push it further and it's not a Dana White kind of persona, who is only starting to be harmful to the sport of MMA.

 

 

Dana isn't a one man band and there are more then him who make the decisions yet cos Dana is the guy delivering the news, he gets all the flak for it.

 

How much are they paying you to post this?

 

Not enough

 

What the heads of the UFC have done is easily in my eyes one of the greatest achievements in business, in my lifetime anyway.

 

You guys just are whining like ****es all the time and maybe they should have done away with the UFC so you cans can carry on watching WWF or some ****

 

Buying out the competition and monopolizing the talent

The Ultimate Fighter

The Pay Per View model

Fight for the Troops

The UFC Fight Pass

 

In the same breathe in which you insulted the WWF, you went on to call the UFC brilliant for copying everything the WWF did.

I didn't highlight any of those things.

 

I mean just the UFC being here today and being as big as they are is a huge achievement. As i said i would of liked both Pride and maybe Strikeforce to both co-exist along side the UFC. I'm not a fan of TUF though it did massive things for the sport and Fight Pass isn't really anything yet

 

lol if Pride still existed nobody would watch UFC

 

UFC is a joke, 90% of the fights disappoint

 

You think Faber/Barao would of been stopped in Pride, every stoppage would be like Chris/Munoz, actually that would be a premature stoppage in Pride

 

 

 

 

 

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