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"It's not my f--- problem," White said. "Getting sponsorship is a problem. It's tough. it's hard to do. That question is ridiculous. If a guy fights on Fight Pass, first of all, he's getting paid to fight. That's what he's getting paid for. That's what he does. How sponsorship works out for a guy is not my problem. That is not my problem. He's a fighter, he gets paid to fight, period, end of story. Whatever extra money he makes outside of the UFC with sponsors and all that s---, that's his f--- deal."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/21/5432120/ufc-dana-white-addresses-sponsorhip-its-not-my-f-king-problem-mma-news

 

I think Dana basically said that it isn't his problem, when fighters can't pay their bills... smdh Dana, smdfh!

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.

 

I know NBA has in the past considered going forward with corporate sponsorship, but I've not heard anything remotely close to definitive on the topic. And NBA needs to, because believe it or not, ownership of NBA teams is often times a losing endeavor...for that matter a number of MLB franchises lose money consistently every year.

 

But this is not the right way to frame this - as obviously those are teams sports. For a while players weren't even allowed to wear individualized shoes on the court, but that was quite some time ago. Never the less, an individual player won't be able to chose his corporate sponsorship - it will be done on a team level. Just like in NASCAR or F-1, the team garners the sponsor deals, not the individual driver. The only thing we have to compare to MMA is boxing, which usually boxers get a couple of sponsors, but they don't litter their shorts with every last bit of advertising space they can come up with.

 

I've long said that the legitimacy of the sport in hindered by guys going out there with low class CondomDepot.com ads on their crotch. Believe it or not, there are still a lot of socially conservative people who don't think the topic of prophylactic purchases should be flaunted on men and women who are serving as athletic role models. I fully agree with UFC's right to approve or disapprove of certain sponsors, however they're requiring $50,000+ payment seems high to me. I realize full well that in their mind, they broadcast the show, so they deserve a cut of the commercialization of it, but many fighters won't be able to attract sponsors to pay them if that kind of money is already going to the UFC.

 

It's a tight rope. Do I think the UFC should be obligated to allow sponsorships? No. But at the same time, it's the difference between attracting tough guys who occasionally fight, and full time athletes who can financially be independent based on their fighting money alone. And, this is another case of Dana White not approaching the topic diplomatically, and spouting off profanities wrapped around an indifferent attitude toward the plight of others.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.

 

Like I said, the UFC doesn't need to create roadblocks for the fighters as it pertains to advertisements, but they are still offering more leniency than most top sports. Its yet to be seen if all major sports will allow athletes to decorate their uniforms with advertisements.

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Love how Dana, who is so wide open and honest, won;t even talk about sponsorship.

 

I guess the whole thing banning Clinch Gear had nothing to do with the UFC? There was never any problem with Hendo wearing Clinch Gear stuff in the UFC, because that's all up to the fighters.

 

More crap from the crap factory..

 

 

UFC is afraid to talk about real issues. They won' do it.

 

 

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.

 

Like I said, the UFC doesn't need to create roadblocks for the fighters as it pertains to advertisements, but they are still offering more leniency than most top sports. Its yet to be seen if all major sports will allow athletes to decorate their uniforms with advertisements.

 

That's inevitably what they're doing is creating unpassble roadblocks for fighters to gain advertisements! Back before they instated the advertisement fee of $50,000... fighters would pocket every dollar of what an advertising company wanted to put on their shorts, shirts, banners, etc. Now when they find a company wanting to give them $10,000(which for most undercard fighters EASILY cover their costs of training camp) for ads, that doesn't even cover the fee the UFC wants for allowing that fighter to advertise. Get it???

 

And I guarantee you once Samsung, Microsoft, Nike, UA and companies like that start sinking 8-9 figure sums of money to put ads across the front of a jerseys in the NBA like they do in foreign soccer leagues, you will 110% for sure see the NFL, MLB, and NHL jump on board. Otherwise they're run by retarded chimpanzees. Not to mention, salaries in the NBA will jump to the highest per game almost immediately when it happens so the players in those other leagues will want the ads on their jerseys also. Get some business savvy, son.

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I love how whenever he's in the wrong instead of explaining **** to everyone he goes on a big angry rant that basically dodges the question.

 

how is he in the wrong?

 

Coz instead of taking the time to answer the question and explain to people the situation and how it works out best for the fighters on something alot of fans have been vocal about being against he goes on a little angry rant saying "it's not my ****ing problem" real professional way to handle it.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

You talk about MMA fighters making extra money but you forget they only get 3 thin payments for year, while in most sports you get well paid monthly like every ****ing human being.

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@Leiting

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1667971-nba-will-reportedly-allow-teams-to-sell-and-display-ads-on-court-next-season

 

The new commissioner doesn't want to show his hand. He's trying to say the NBA hasn't decided. Which means nobody has laid down $100,000,000 yet.

 

I'm afraid you didn't read the article very closely my friend.

 

"NBA teams, seeing the push for lucrative jersey advertising shelved, are getting two new areas inside their arenas as sources of revenue starting next season: on the court and atop the backboards."

 

The idea to put logos on jerseys is shelved. That particular article addressed logos being places in front on benches or on the hardwood floor and backboards. So your original assertions of;

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements.

 

Has been dis-proven by your own source material.

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@Leiting

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1667971-nba-will-reportedly-allow-teams-to-sell-and-display-ads-on-court-next-season

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266221-nba-will-place-advertising-on-jerseys-in-2013-in-smart-necessary-decision

The new commissioner doesn't want to show his hand. He's trying to say the NBA hasn't decided. Which means nobody has laid down $100,000,000 yet.

 

I'm afraid you didn't read the article very closely my friend.

 

"NBA teams, seeing the push for lucrative jersey advertising shelved, are getting two new areas inside their arenas as sources of revenue starting next season: on the court and atop the backboards."

 

The idea to put logos on jerseys is shelved. That particular article addressed logos being places in front on benches or on the hardwood floor and backboards. So your original assertions of;

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements.

 

Has been dis-proven by your own source material.

 

God forbid you go to google and type in something. I put up the wrong link, genius.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266221-nba-will-place-advertising-on-jerseys-in-2013-in-smart-necessary-decision

 

While no vote was taken on putting advertisements on jerseys for the first time, the discussion in the ballroom inside the Encore hotel on the Strip showed a strong preference to move forward, deputy commissioner Adam Silver said. The final decision will likely come in an e-mail vote in September and be implemented for 2013-14, giving teams the chance to line up sponsors and uniform makers the time to add the patch of 2.5 inches-by-2.5 inches just above the heart.

 

The bold print, son. The big giant quote.

 

 

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Another bold quote on the article:

 

“My sense is that every team would do this in some form,” Silver said, indicating the mass support for the idea that has been years in coming, not to mention the mass support for the $100 million annually he estimates would be generated with the new revenue stream.

 

And before you poop you diaper and try to act like I'm totally wrong and making **** up, google a couple more articles. They're going to start with a tiny ad on the front and work their way up to full on soccer jerseys. The date is so long ago because this is Adam Silver's idea. He just became commissioner at the All-Star break last Friday.

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@cashflow247, I have researched the topic matter, hence my original statement that while it had been discussed, nothing definitive had been reached. Which you presented it as a foregone conclusion. This new link you've proved it actually from 2012, older than the original link that said it had been shelved from 2013. The vote went through sir, it failed. Corporate logos are not going on jerseys next year, or any time until something new changes. I'm sorry, but you are incorrect on this discussion point.

 

You seem to be upset by something I've said. I'm sorry if I've offended you, I don't believe I've said anything disrespectful other than to disprove something you claimed was fact.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

They all get Nike money. That's the only money that matters.

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The NBA isn't the UFC. They don't do business in the media. They said they're voting in emails which means that they're purposely not meeting in public to stir intrigue on the topic and have the media pushing the charge. But maybe you're right, these failing franchises will choose to go against being a profitable enterprise and just say, aw screw the ads.

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@cashflow247, have you deleted your new link because you realize it's dated reference? I don't get what are you trying to do. Prove something that was incorrect is true. I follow basketball quite closely, I assure you, the idea is being floated around - and perhaps it may one day come about. But when you said they would "covering their jerseys in advertisements" next year, you were incorrect. I merely pointed out no such agreement had been reached.

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@cashflow247, have you deleted your new link because you realize it's dated reference? I don't get what are you trying to do. Prove something that was incorrect is true. I follow basketball quite closely, I assure you, the idea is being floated around - and perhaps it may one day come about. But when you said they would "covering their jerseys in advertisements" next year, you were incorrect. I merely pointed out no such agreement had been reached.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266221-nba-will-place-advertising-on-jerseys-in-2013-in-smart-necessary-decision

 

It's on the post still. But there's another.

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I guess I'll have to come find this post NEXT SEASON when the ads get put on in about 8 months. Til then, we'll pretend you're right.

 

There's only a few franchises that are actually profitable in the NBA, the other owners enjoy losing money. So they'll never approve a means of becoming a money making endeavor. That would be stupid of them.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

That's a terrible comparison, most pro team sports have logos of the company that makes the jersey, usually the Nike "slash". Each player gets a cut of every individual jersey sold that has their number. Also, those sports are all unionized, so they have the right to bargain if they want more.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

Actually, if you look up what Nate Quarry said recently about current sponsorship deals, he really broke down what's wrong with it. Say an undercard fighter is going to make 8k to show and 8k to win, they'll have real trouble convincing a company to pay the UFC advertisement fee which is something like $50,000. Companies used to be able to sponsor a guy for $10k and that would go straight to the fighter. Nowadays if they aren't making Jon Jones money back on the advertisements, it's becoming not even worth it to sponsor them.

 

As far as logos on their uniforms, wait til the NBA next season(I think... maybe 2015-2016)... they're going the soccer route and going to start covering their jerseys in advertisements. And the NBA players will absolutely get raises in their salaries because of it. If you think the other leagues are going to sit idly by and let the NBA snatch up those billions, you're crazy. You will see ad covered uniforms in every major sport by 2020.

 

Like I said, the UFC doesn't need to create roadblocks for the fighters as it pertains to advertisements, but they are still offering more leniency than most top sports. Its yet to be seen if all major sports will allow athletes to decorate their uniforms with advertisements.

 

That's inevitably what they're doing is creating unpassble roadblocks for fighters to gain advertisements! Back before they instated the advertisement fee of $50,000... fighters would pocket every dollar of what an advertising company wanted to put on their shorts, shirts, banners, etc. Now when they find a company wanting to give them $10,000(which for most undercard fighters EASILY cover their costs of training camp) for ads, that doesn't even cover the fee the UFC wants for allowing that fighter to advertise. Get it???

 

And I guarantee you once Samsung, Microsoft, Nike, UA and companies like that start sinking 8-9 figure sums of money to put ads across the front of a jerseys in the NBA like they do in foreign soccer leagues, you will 110% for sure see the NFL, MLB, and NHL jump on board. Otherwise they're run by retarded chimpanzees. Not to mention, salaries in the NBA will jump to the highest per game almost immediately when it happens so the players in those other leagues will want the ads on their jerseys also. Get some business savvy, son.

 

You clearly do not understand my position because I did not state half the things that you are suggesting that I am. I already stated that the UFC shouldn't put these roadblocks up. I also did not make a statement as to whether it was good business or not. I am only asserting that it is still more than many professional sports, which is a fact. In most sports you don't even have the option to pay an advertising fee, you just can't advertise at all. I think an option is better than no option.

 

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

You talk about MMA fighters making extra money but you forget they only get 3 thin payments for year, while in most sports you get well paid monthly like every ****ing human being.

 

That's what fighters do. They get paid for fighting and if they only fight three times a year, then they get paid three times a year. Its been like that since the beginning of combat sports. I am sure the fighter would rather get paid a large lump sum that they can invest instead of the UFC taking that lump sump and breaking up in monthly installments.

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You clearly do not understand my position because I did not state half the things that you are suggesting that I am. I already stated that the UFC shouldn't put these roadblocks up. I am also did not make a statement as to whether it was good business or not. I am only asserting that it is still more than many professional sports, which is a fact. In most sports you don't even have the option to pay an advertising fee, you just can't advertise at all. I think an option is better than no option.

 

I get you now. I suppose it's cool that they allow it at all, but I do think it's semi-discriminatory to put the fee so high. However, I agree that the UFC should be allowed to exclude certain companies(Condom Depot was a great example), but it's just so damaging to undercard fighters. You almost have to be well off enough to not need to work and put your entire life into fighting because as an undercard fighter, you barely make ends meet. You damn near have to become a main eventer before you're even a highly paid athlete.

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The UFC could disallow fighters from wearing sponsors on their gear or disallow the posters that they display when they are being announced, but they don't. Are MLB, NHL,NBA, or the NFL players allowed to have logos on their uniforms? They allow them the chance to make extra money that many other top sports wouldn't allow. Should the UFC make it easier for them instead of adding road blocks? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that they are given opportunities to make money that many other athletes don't get.

 

That's a terrible comparison, most pro team sports have logos of the company that makes the jersey, usually the Nike "slash". Each player gets a cut of every individual jersey sold that has their number. Also, those sports are all unionized, so they have the right to bargain if they want more.

 

Actually its a great comparison. If the UFC fighters were not allowed to wear logos, they would still have the manufacturers logo on their uniform. However, in other sports you are not allowed to put additional logos for money. Therefore, there is a significant difference.

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People like Kobe have their own shoe lines. Huge endorsement money.

 

 

Yeah, I was watching a show where Tracy McGrady, who signed right of high school, said the first pay check he earned in his life was a $600,000 check he received from a shoe company when he was 18 years old.

 

I can't explain the amount of disappointment I felt inside when I read that. lol

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Ok dont understand all the hate about sponshorship money.

 

1. They dont haveto allow camp banners and custom trunks

 

2. Sponsors take money from an official ufc product (trunks,gloves, shirts, hat ect.)

 

3. They get paid to fight.

4. They dont fight to get sponsors

5.they charge a fee as they should. The UFC is seen world wide by millions and played over and sold on dvd and rewatched for many years.

6. Have you seen a fighter in a non fight commercial wearing the Iir sponsors

 

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Whether it is his problem or not, that's definitely not the right way to talk about it as the President. Dana is just coming off as such a **** lately

Agreed. If he feels that way, he'd be best served saying "We run the fight business and come up with the pay structure for the fighters. The fighters and their management teams are the ones who deal with obtaining sponsorships, so we don't have anything to do with that portion." Simple and to the point without being a tool, which is completely unnecessary

 

 

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