Megasoup Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 How come no one ever talks about this matchup? They are separated by a mere 10 pounds in the weight classes their respective weight classes (the ones they have been most active in.) I think I'd like to see the Irishman get beaten by a smaller guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouperDoug Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 ok check this out... when they are within 10 lbs, conor is a skeleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Because nobody cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_H. Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Because Cruz would humiliate Canor so bad even Bellator won't take in Canor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddievanhalen3 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Id go with Chael Sonnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Because it's not realistic. MCgameplan struggles to make 145. If somehow they did fight Cruz would make McGinger look absolutely silly. Cruz wouldn't get touched while slapping Conor around and he'd put on a wrestling clinic very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 lol you guys are IDIOTS. Conor would kill that dancing can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 lol you guys are IDIOTS. Conor would kill that dancing can. He'll do no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 He'll do no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 He'll do nuttin' because Dom would never move up to fight him or Aldo. They would ****ing destroy Mr. Back Fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agtx Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The decisionator, would make Conor go 5 rounds & expose his poor cardio fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN_FDU Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The decisionator, would make Conor go 5 rounds & expose his poor cardio full. I can confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'd like to see him move up. If he puts on ten pounds of muscle, maybe he'll start finishing guys. Heck, maybe he'll be a heartier, healthier guy who isn't injured all the time. I guarantee he would beat the living daylights out of 'ole Whiskers McScrawny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'd like to see him move up. If he puts on ten pounds of muscle, maybe he'll start finishing guys. Heck, maybe he'll be a heartier, healthier guy who isn't injured all the time. I guarantee he would beat the living daylights out of 'ole Whiskers McScrawny. A 31 yr old cardio machine ectomorph who isn't a vegan/vegetarian switching over to meat and nearly 40 in fight yrs putting on 10 lbs of muscle post USADA? Seem legit. On a serious note although suddenly packing on muscle may very well make him less injury prone due to stronger tendons the inevitable change of fighting style i believe he'd be worse not better. He'd be slower, get hit more and not have as much cardio and against guys who are naturally bigger, stronger have better chins and hit harder than what he's used to facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 A 31 yr old cardio machine ectomorph who isn't a vegan/vegetarian switching over to meat and nearly 40 in fight yrs putting on 10 lbs of muscle post USADA? Seem legit. On a serious note although suddenly packing on muscle may very well make him less injury prone due to stronger tendons the inevitable change of fighting style i believe he'd be worse not better. He'd be slower, get hit more and not have as much cardio and against guys who are naturally bigger, stronger have better chins and hit harder than what he's used to facing. Translation: Conor would take his head CLEAN OFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Translation: Conor would take his head CLEAN OFF. Translation: Clegg would jack Conor CLEAN OFF and CuckCole would watch from a dark corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 A 31 yr old cardio machine ectomorph who isn't a vegan/vegetarian switching over to meat and nearly 40 in fight yrs putting on 10 lbs of muscle post USADA? Seem legit. On a serious note although suddenly packing on muscle may very well make him less injury prone due to stronger tendons the inevitable change of fighting style i believe he'd be worse not better. He'd be slower, get hit more and not have as much cardio and against guys who are naturally bigger, stronger have better chins and hit harder than what he's used to facing. 10 pounds ain't a whole lot, though. Easy to put on, easy to walk around with. And that extra size will make a man noticeably bigger and stronger. I don't know what you mean by this "inevitable change of fighting style." A jab, a straight and a hook doesn't change, no matter the size of the fighter. Wrestling is the wrestling. Jujitsu is jujitsu. A 145 pound fighter is hardly much different than a 135 pound fighter, other than a nearly imperceptibly different pace, and that is absolutely subjective to each individual fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Translation: Clegg would jack Conor CLEAN OFF and CuckCole would watch from a dark corner. That's a lie. Truth is Conor can compete with the best at 155. Dom would get creampied at 145. He wouldn't have the power to do anything and his TDs would get stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 10 pounds ain't a whole lot, though. Easy to put on, easy to walk around with. And that extra size will make a man noticeably bigger and stronger. I don't know what you mean by this "inevitable change of fighting style." A jab, a straight and a hook doesn't change, no matter the size of the fighter. Wrestling is the wrestling. Jujitsu is jujitsu. A 145 pound fighter is hardly much different than a 135 pound fighter, other than a nearly imperceptibly different pace, and that is absolutely subjective to each individual fighter. He's not a big guy and he's an ectomorph cardio athlete. 10 lbs of added muscle is significant for these lighter fighters. What i mean by inevitable change is sure a punch is a punch and jitz is jitz but because of the added mass and having his body adjust to that and tailoring his game accordingly for different opponents i.e. heavier hitters, stronger more explosive guys with better chins his style will definitely change some and you don't just have a certain modality your whole life and suddenly adjust over night. His style is very ingrained. This is an extreme example but it would be like asking Tyson to change into Mayweather suddenly. Or Mayweather to put on 10 lbs and adopt a peek-a-boo style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 That's a lie. Truth is Conor can compete with the best at 155. Dom would get creampied at 145. He wouldn't have the power to do anything and his TDs would get stuffed. Time will tell if that's true. I'm not convinced Conor can compete with the best 155 has to offer. I'm confident Cruz would dominate 145'ers. Not by suddenly putting on 10 lbs of muscle like Soup suggest but as he gets older and naturally grows into that weight i think he'll be champion there barring another series of injuries and possibly retiring early. The difference is Dom is a mixed martial artist skilled in all areas. Conor is also smart & a tactician like Dom but he is pretty one dimensional and it's going to be a problem with these bigger fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 He's not a big guy and he's an ectomorph cardio athlete. 10 lbs of added muscle is significant for these lighter fighters. What i mean by inevitable change is sure a punch is a punch and jitz is jitz but because of the added mass and having his body adjust to that and tailoring his game accordingly for different opponents i.e. heavier hitters, stronger more explosive guys with better chins his style will definitely change some and you don't just have a certain modality your whole life and suddenly adjust over night. His style is very ingrained. This is an extreme example but it would be like asking Tyson to change into Mayweather suddenly. Or Mayweather to put on 10 lbs and adopt a peek-a-boo style. Nah, you can't do a Tyson and Mayweather comparison because that's not a 10 pound difference, it's a like a 80 pound difference. I could concede to there being a huge dissimilarity in the approach to a fight with an extra 80 pounds and that it would have a profound effect on an athlete. The point I was trying to make is that a mere 10 pound weight gain won't change much and would probably make him a better, more solid athlete. 10 isn't 80. It's never been 80. You can't make it 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Time will tell if that's true. I'm not convinced Conor can compete with the best 155 has to offer. I'm confident Cruz would dominate 145'ers. Not by suddenly putting on 10 lbs of muscle like Soup suggest but as he gets older and naturally grows into that weight i think he'll be champion there barring another series of injuries and possibly retiring early. The difference is Dom is a mixed martial artist skilled in all areas. Conor is also smart & a tactician like Dom but he is pretty one dimensional and it's going to be a problem with these bigger fighters. He's not one dimensional... Jesus anyone that thinks Cruz could dance around McGregor without getting hit is completely delusional. He would get cornered and he would eat some shots. It wouldn't even be a good fight. I like Dom but he better keep his **** down at 135 and worry about 3 heavy hitters in that division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Nah, you can't do a Tyson and Mayweather comparison because that's not a 10 pound difference, it's a like a 80 pound difference. I could concede to there being a huge dissimilarity in the approach to a fight with an extra 80 pounds and that it would have a profound effect on an athlete. The point I was trying to make is that a mere 10 pound weight gain won't change much and would probably make him a better, more solid athlete. 10 isn't 80. It's never been 80. You can't make it 80. You're drunk. Go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 So Stomp. Despite a 74" reach Conor is the same as these bantamweights with 66" reach? Correct? Threef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button_man Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 i actually made a thread abt this and as i have said,if cruz goes up for a superfight with conor,he is a nightmare for conor.cruz is really quick and difficult to hit.the only advantage conor i guess is his size and punching power.but it doesn;t matter if you keep punching air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Cruz would turn him into a panic wrestler imo. Precision > Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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