Mcmax3000 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/4/20/17261280/magomed-bibulatov-off-of-ufc-atlantic-city-due-to-injury https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/4/20/17262676/aspen-ladd-misses-weight-wont-fight-leslie-smith-at-ufc-atlantic-city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyWang Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Ladd vs Smith off, scrap the card 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Sparks Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Conor has a lot to answer for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 We've got many a baby whining over MTP coming in injured, missing weight, AND STILL FIGHTING, so I'd like to see some real crying about Bibulatov and Ladd. Let's hear it, kids. Bibulatov pulled out last second for an injury, and Ladd came in fat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmax3000 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 We've got many a baby whining over MTP coming in injured, missing weight, AND STILL FIGHTING, so I'd like to see some real crying about Bibulatov and Ladd. Let's hear it, kids. Bibulatov pulled out last second for an injury, and Ladd came in fat. The reason you're not going to find anybody complaining about either of these two fights is because nobody cares about either of these two fights. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyWang Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 The reason you're not going to find anybody complaining about either of these two fights is because nobody cares about either of these two fights. bullchit mcmax I JUST CANCELED MY FIGHT PASS SUBSCRIPTION 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdw35/Ufcfan_1 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 bullchit mcmax I JUST CANCELED MY FIGHT PASS SUBSCRIPTION you will prob be doing that soon anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stehilton94 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 I love how we went from a card with I think 0 pullouts and 0 missed weight to a card with 3 missed weights and 2 pullouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmax3000 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Leslie Smith is saying that she's been told the UFC is going to pay her show & win money and they're considering that the end of her contract. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poonmachine Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 How much was the other girl over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 How much was the other girl over?1.8 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Leslie Smith is saying that she's been told the UFC is going to pay her show & win money and they're considering that the end of her contract. Lol, makes weight and is still released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poonmachine Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 1.8 pounds Wow Smith is a chump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmax3000 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Lol, makes weight and is still released. It was the last fight on her contract so she wasn't technically released. It seemed pretty likely she wasn't going to be re-signed regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Wow Smith is a chumpYeah, she's a clown. Ladd offered her an extra $5,000 to take the fight, on top of the 20% she would get docked, and Smith still said no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyWang Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Aspen LAdd is now my favorite fighter ever, she got leslie smith released without making us see her fight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stehilton94 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 To be fair, Smith has been **** in the ufc, refused a fight and tried to start **** with the ufc over the fighters union she tried get up an ruining, delighted she is finally gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdw35/Ufcfan_1 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 They paid Smith from what I seen win and show money. That in all would end her contract... gonna be interesting with her project spearhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyWang Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 lol leslie asked the ufc for 100k a fight 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Sparks Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 lol leslie asked the ufc for 100k a fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kez5dy2C-RE She talks like Michael Scott. Will you quadruple my salary? Err...no. How about keeping it the same? Nah. We're good thanks. Not sure that's really a win, pet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 lol leslie asked the ufc for 100k a fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kez5dy2C-RE CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor_Schonerstedt Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 They cut lesie Smith's sorry ace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 To be fair, Smith has been **** in the ufc, refused a fight and tried to start **** with the ufc over the fighters union she tried get up an ruining, delighted she is finally gone They need a fighters union. The UFC has admitted in court that they pay their fighters less because they aren't unionized. Smith may not be but most fighters are drastically underpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownDead Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 lol leslie asked the ufc for 100k a fight I thought you were joking, and then I watched the video Jesus christ, she is dumb. She brings in literally no revenue for the UFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownDead Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 They need a fighters union. The UFC has admitted in court that they pay their fighters less because they aren't unionized. Smith may not be but most fighters are drastically underpaid. No, most fighters are drastically OVERpaid. Do you think Leslie Smith brings in anywhere near $64k for her fights? Hell no. They could replace her with literally anyone else, and it would not change the bottom line The only fighters that are underpaid are the giant stars like Conor, Jon Jones, GSP, and Lesnar, who actually bring in WAY more revenue as a function of their pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 No, most fighters are drastically OVERpaid. Do you think Leslie Smith brings in anywhere near $64k for her fights? Hell no. They could replace her with literally anyone else, and it would not change the bottom line The only fighters that are underpaid are the giant stars like Conor, Jon Jones, GSP, and Lesnar, who actually bring in WAY more revenue as a function of their pay The UFC pays out 15% of their revenue to fighters. All other major sport organizations in the US pay out around 50% of their revenue to players. Do all of the players in the other organizations make them a ton of money? No, many will barely play but they are needed to have games, the same way that all fighters won't be stars but the lower fighters are needed to fill cards. The average salary of WNBA players is higher than the UFC and no one watches that ****. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Literally no one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijosef Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 The UFC pays out 15% of their revenue to fighters. All other major sport organizations in the US pay out around 50% of their revenue to players. Do all of the players in the other organizations make them a ton of money? No, many will barely play but they are needed to have games, the same way that all fighters won't be stars but the lower fighters are needed to fill cards. The average salary of WNBA players is higher than the UFC and no one watches that ****. Bingo. The percentages you cite are the number one reason fighters need to organize. Unfortunately they can't seem to get one solid effort together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownDead Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 The UFC pays out 15% of their revenue to fighters. All other major sport organizations in the US pay out around 50% of their revenue to players. Do all of the players in the other organizations make them a ton of money? No, many will barely play but they are needed to have games, the same way that all fighters won't be stars but the lower fighters are needed to fill cards. The average salary of WNBA players is higher than the UFC and no one watches that ****. Citation needed And even if that was true, the remaining 35% should go to people that ACTUALLY bring in viewers. Not some random that literally no one cares to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownDead Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 By the way, the MAXIMUM salary in the WNBA is 100k. Leslie just made more than that for NOT fighting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stehilton94 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Citation needed And even if that was true, the remaining 35% should go to people that ACTUALLY bring in viewers. Not some random that literally no one cares to watch I don't really agree with this, yeah 1 or 2 fighters per card will bring in most of the viewers, but if it was only those 1 or 2 fighters on the card there would be no card. Anyone with a brain can see the UFC is massively underpaying their fighters, regardless of their records and **** they are being paid literally **** all to compete at the supposed highest level of their sport. You take any sport in the world that has professional stars, that is viewed as much as this one with PPV's involved they are paid enough to not have to do any other jobs, to train full time, to have enough cash to retire at around 34-40. The UFC, barely pays its average fighters enough to live on, enough to train, no chance of retiring with anything in the bank by the end never mind having to continue fighting until at least their late 30's just to try make the most of it. Lets take a football league for instance, we will look at the championship (Basically the 2nd Division in English Football) In no way the main league, little media coverage, maybe 1/2 matches with 2/4 teams being shown out of 24. Average attendance of the league per game is about 20k, No PPV. Players earn an average of 330k a year. No way the average UFC fighter makes that a year. And the championship is watched and looked at a lot lot less than UFC events 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice64011 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Citation needed And even if that was true, the remaining 35% should go to people that ACTUALLY bring in viewers. Not some random that literally no one cares to watch Paying everyone more makes for a better product. All fighters concentrating on fighting instead of 2nd or 3rd jobs make for better fights and more entertainment. With regard to the share of revenue, if the polled $87,999 average is applied to all matches between 2013-2015 the total would add up to approximately 15% of all estimated revenue during those three years (with over a billion in revenue generated in 2014-2015 according to Dave Meltzer and around $500 million in 2013 the UFC is thought to have generated roughly $1.6 billion in total revenue during that time). This aligns closely with not only a previous estimate I came up with, but with other sources as well. Dave Meltzer reported in the July 18, 2016 Wrestling Observer that the UFC spent “in the range of $75 million to $85 million in pay for fighters” in 2015, a year the company grossed “$608,692,000”. This corresponds to a 12% to 14% share for the fighters. In addition, according to the Guardian “In 2015, when its revenue was around $600m, Zuffa spent ‘over $100m’ on ‘athlete costs including compensation, insurance, medical and travel’.” https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/29/13040024/ufc-fighter-pay-union-association https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/20/9547333/what-deutsche-bank-moodys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/page/UFCpay/ufc-fighters-say-low-pay-most-painful-hit-all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 flyweights and women... lol good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanPass Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 They should have flew up the Queen Andrade on no notice or weight cut and let her destroy Aspen Ladd and then fight Rose in a few months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 They should have flew up the Queen Andrade on no notice or weight cut and let her destroy Aspen Ladd and then fight Rose in a few months. Aspen wouldn't take that fight. King Andrade would give her the hands and take her to suplex city. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneHigherThanMe Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Leslie Smith ear blew off her head... Frickin legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijosef Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Leslie Smith ear blew off her head... Frickin legend That's what puzzles me about her refusal to fight. She was one of the few who took the Cyborg fight when no one else was willing, and Smith is in no way a 145er (you could make that argument for Holm, since she boxed around that weight and is huge for 135). She took a beating and was mad when the ref called it off. The fact that she refused to fight someone who missed weight by a couple of pounds is just strange. Maybe she wanted out of her contract but didn't want to say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashfl0w Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 That's what puzzles me about her refusal to fight. She was one of the few who took the Cyborg fight when no one else was willing, and Smith is in no way a 145er (you could make that argument for Holm, since she boxed around that weight and is huge for 135). She took a beating and was mad when the ref called it off. The fact that she refused to fight someone who missed weight by a couple of pounds is just strange. Maybe she wanted out of her contract but didn't want to say it? I think her contract would have been extended for another fight, if they didn't pay her win bonus, and only paid the show money. She thought she could force another fight on them, and they avoided it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijosef Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Okay, that makes sense. They probably just wanted to cut her in general, given her advocacy for a fighters' union combined with the fact that they don't see much value in her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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