Change My Mind Thread

[POTUF]

Post your unpopular/conserversial opinion or change somebody's mind. 

 

I'll start. 

 

The world would benefit from another Black Plague. 

 

[Megasoup]

Post your unpopular/conserversial opinion or change somebody's mind.

 

I'll start.

 

The world would benefit from another Black Plague.

 

^This is not an opinion. Try again.

[jaybird86]

why is that not an opinion?

[chons]

People that want to see the world burn should start by killing themselves. 

[I_Take_Roids_m8]

Welfare queens only breed more welfare queens and should be sterilized at birth

[America]

The CIA and FBI didn't do a good enough job of thinning out the inner cities by introducing heroin and crack.

[POTUF]

People that want to see the world burn should start by killing themselves. 

 

Is this a response to the OP or your own opinion?

[chons]

Is this a response to the OP or your own opinion?

Opinion first, it could be a response depending on if you choose to elaborate on what you mean in the OP. 

[StompGrind]

The world would have been better off without all the Zionist scum. Therefore Hitler was a good man. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I shouldn't have to say this but i'm not being srs. Not completely joking either . lol

Edited April 24, 2018 by StompGrind

[chons]

The world would have been better off without all the Zionist scum. Therefore Hitler was a good man. 

 

I shouldn't have to say this but i'm not being srs. Not completely joking either . lol

My grandmother got tossed into Auschwitz, she was neither a Zionist or a Jew. So, half serious, half joking, it's cool that my gm was in Auschwitz? 

[King_Can]

Vert is a psychological genius and a master troll

 

CHANGE MY MIND

[King_Can]

heres a good one that will surely push a few buttons, maybe not on this forum but certainly elsewhere

 

Religion has done more worse than better for this world

 

CHANGE MY MIND

[RadLad]

People that want to see the world burn should start by killing themselves.

 

But how can you see the world burn if you kill yourself DUMMY!

[StompGrind]

My grandmother got tossed into Auschwitz, she was neither a Zionist or a Jew. So, half serious, half joking, it's cool that my gm was in Auschwitz? 

No i'm not saying that at all. Don't get your feels in a twist. I'll clarify. 

 

I'm just saying i don't like Zionist agenda. I think it's a huge problem when a certain set of people think everyone is Goyim and they're above everyone else. 

 

That goes for any other group think tew. This is why i h8 groups so much. I'm team individual all the way. To me that is what makes us all more equal on a level playing field. 

[POTUF]

Opinion first, it could be a response depending on if you choose to elaborate on what you mean in the OP. 

 

The Black Plague and the consequential shortage in labor is arguably the best thing that ever happened to Europe. It lead to the renaissance, the industrial revolution, the reformation, and many other breakthroughs. A modern day plague wouldn't see as many breakthroughs but it would definitely have a domino effect that would rectify some issues that need balancing.

[chons]

But how can you see the world burn if you kill yourself DUMMY!

 

I'm just saying if they hate humanity that much and want to die as well, do us all a favor and just pull the trigger.

 

No i'm not saying that at all. Don't get your feels in a twist. I'll clarify. 

 

I'm just saying i don't like Zionist agenda. I think it's a huge problem when a certain set of people think everyone is Goyim and they're above everyone else. 

 

That goes for any other group think tew. This is why i h8 groups so much. I'm team individual all the way. To me that is what makes us all more equal on a level playing field. 

My feels aren't in a twist, as I barely know my grandmother. I'm just picking your brain as to why you don't think Hitler was a total scumbag. 

 

Most people need to play the tough guy here, change my mind. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by chons

[chons]

The Black Plague and the consequential shortage in labor is arguably the best thing that ever happened to Europe. It lead to the renaissance, the industrial revolution, the reformation, and many other breakthroughs. A modern day plague wouldn't see as many breakthroughs but it would definitely have a domino effect that would rectify some issues that need balancing.

Interesting! So no, not directed at the OP then. I don't really agree, but I think it's an interesting perspective. 

[StompGrind]

I'm just saying if they hate humanity that much and want to die as well, do us all a favor and just pull the trigger.

 

My feels aren't in a twist, as I barely know my grandmother. I'm just picking your brain as to why you don't think Hitler was a total scumbag. 

 

Most people need to play the tough guy here, change my mind. 

I actually do think Hitler was a total scumbag. That was the joke part. 

 

Most people need to play tough guy here? 

 

Is that a question? 

 

I don't really know the answer to that one but i would assume people do that for all sorts of reasons be it conditioning, humor, ego. 

[StompGrind]

Like the red pilling premise of this thread. Good thread TUF

[chons]

I actually do think Hitler was a total scumbag. That was the joke part. 

 

Most people need to play tough guy here? 

 

Is that a question? 

 

I don't really know the answer to that one but i would assume people do that for all sorts of reasons be it conditioning, humor, ego. 

OK.

 

It's an opinion that you are supposed to change and partly directed at you. What's it for you, conditioning, humor or ego? 

[Bubba_Sparks]

This is almost a nocake-esque thread.

 

Here's mine: most countries would be better off with a benevolent dictator in charge instead of their current democratically elected leader.

 

CHANGE MY MIND

Edited April 24, 2018 by Bubba_Sparks

[chons]

This is almost a nocake-esque thread.

 

Here's mine: most countries would be better off with a benevolent dictator in charge instead of their current democratically elected leader.

 

CHANGE MY MIND

Who do you nominate for the US, soup? 

[Bubba_Sparks]

Who do you nominate for the US, soup?

Lol. I think he'd turn malevolent fast.

Teemu would make any excellent benevolent dictator.

[StompGrind]

OK.

 

It's an opinion that you are supposed to change and partly directed at you. What's it for you, conditioning, humor or ego? 

Well i'm don't think i carry myself as some tough guy. If anything i usually embrace humility and make fun of myself for being soft hearted quite a bit. I used to have that tough guy side a lot more because i do pride myself on being able to handle tough situations and all of that had to do with all of the above. 

 

I was well aware of this in recent yrs more than i was when i was younger so i kinda killed my ego with all the meditation looking into self and all that jazz. Thing i learned the most though is some ego is fine. It's good for a competitive drive and your self esteem but it must be checked hence the stay humble approach which is something i've always been really big on. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by StompGrind

[StompGrind]

This is almost a nocake-esque thread.

 

Here's mine: most countries would be better off with a benevolent dictator in charge instead of their current democratically elected leader.

 

CHANGE MY MIND

I'm kinda with you on that one so you need to change MY mind. lul

 

I would offer that absolute power absolutely corrupts where as democratically elected leader there can be more progress given a larger time frame. 

 

Think about this in terms of cycles and bubbles that pop. Then again there's a balance to be had with huge turmoil and change needed to adjust but if that happens too frequently then it's total chaos with no recovery so progress actually stagnates or even regresses. 

[StompGrind]

Lol. I think he'd turn malevolent fast.

Teemu would make any excellent benevolent dictator.

Teemu's front kicks are always just. 

[chons]

Well i'm don't think i carry myself as some tough guy. If anything i usually embrace humility and make fun of myself for being soft hearted quite a bit. I used to have that tough guy side a lot more because i do pride myself on being able to handle tough situations and all of that had to do with all of the above. 

 

I was well aware of this in recent yrs more than i was when i was younger so i kinda killed my ego with all the meditation looking into self and all that jazz. Thing i learned the most though is some ego is fine. It's good for a competitive drive and your self esteem but it must be checked hence the stay humble approach which is something i've always been really big on. 

Do you think telling me to not get my feels in a twist for asking a simple question is humble? 

[StompGrind]

Do you think telling me to not get my feels in a twist for asking a simple question is humble? 

I read your tone in that post. < Perhaps incorrectly but it came across as accusatory as if i was actually justifying him. 

 

I was just clarifying to you basically if you thought i was being srs to chill on the claws coming out because it was indeed just a joke. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by StompGrind

[crangs]

Rian Johnson did a good job with TLJ

[Bubba_Sparks]

I'm kinda with you on that one so you need to change MY mind. lul

 

I would offer that absolute power absolutely corrupts where as democratically elected leader there can be more progress given a larger time frame.

 

Think about this in terms of cycles and bubbles that pop. Then again there's a balance to be had with huge turmoil and change needed to adjust but if that happens too frequently then it's total chaos with no recovery so progress actually stagnates or even regresses.

Of course the toughest part is finding someone who remains benevolent. History suggests that's highly unlikely to happen but there have been one or two.

[chons]

I read your tone in that post. < Perhaps incorrectly but it came across as accusatory as if i was actually justifying him. 

 

I was just clarifying to you basically if you thought i was being srs to chill on the claws coming out because it was indeed just a joke. 

Lol, you didn't answer the question. Was that a humble reply to a simple question?

 

You'll know the tone of my posts when I stoop to the name calling type of stuff that goes on around here. Otherwise, I'm just asking questions out of curiosity. Edit: even then (name calling), I'm probably just goofing around and being a ****. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by chons

[chons]

Of course the toughest part is finding someone who remains benevolent. History suggests that's highly unlikely to happen but there have been one or two.

Who are the one or two? 

[StompGrind]

I read your tone in that post. < Perhaps incorrectly but it came across as accusatory as if i was actually justifying him. 

 

I was just clarifying to you basically if you thought i was being srs to chill on the claws coming out because it was indeed just a joke. 

To put it another way Chons you refereed in an earlier post about people that want to see the world burn. I'm not that guy but there are things in this world i'd sleep better at night if the whole fk'ing house of cards came tumbling down & got a reboot. < Maybe not that extreme but i would like to see change starting at the top on down. 

 

I don't wanna see the world burn but there are power structures i really don't like at all in regard to government and big business. These power structures limit freedom of choice and pander to a select few. This is fine to an extent but can get out hand sometimes to where the goal post for everyone is dictated by the powers that be. Again there should be some authoritative standards and regulation in place but finding that sweet spot is tricky. 

 

More than anything i want more equality across the board for the world but again it's a tricky thing to balance without going the full dictator route. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by StompGrind

[StompGrind]

Lol, you didn't answer the question. Was that a humble reply to a simple question?

 

You'll know the tone of my posts when I stoop to the name calling type of stuff that goes on around here. Otherwise, I'm just asking questions out of curiosity. Edit: even then (name calling), I'm probably just goofing around and being a ****. 

Lol i guess it depends on how you took it. I wasn't trying to be humble or not humble there. I was merely saying if you were offended by that then don't be because i was partially joking but i'm glad you asked so that i was able to clarify what i meant about my distaste for Zionist agenda. 

[chons]

To put it another way Chons you refereed in an earlier post about people that want to see the world burn. I'm not that guy but there are things in this world i'd sleep better at night if the whole fk'ing house of cards came tumbling down. 

 

I don't wanna see the world burn but there are power structures i really don't like at all in regard to government and big business. These power structures limit freedom and choice and pander to a select few. This is fine to an extent but can get out hand sometimes to where the goal post for everyone is dictated by the powers that be. Again there should be some authoritative standards and regulation in place but finding that sweet spot is tricky. 

 

More than anything i want more equality across the board for the world but again it's a tricky thing to balance without going the full dictator route. 

When I wrote that I had in mind the crybabies that I see saying that they hope for nuclear annihilation. I'm just like, if you hate life that much, kill yourself and hopefully the rest of us can somehow sort out the BS. 

[POTUF]

Rian Johnson did a good job with TLJ

 

[chons]

Lol i guess it depends on how you took it. I wasn't trying to be humble or not humble there. I was merely saying if you were offended by that then don't be because i was partially joking but i'm glad you asked so that i was able to clarify what i meant about my distaste for Zionist agenda. 

It's all good. I took it as talking down to someone when I just want to have a conversation. I'll take your word for it. 

[crangs]

A representation of tuf and this thread

 

[POTUF]

lol

[Bubba_Sparks]

Who are the one or two? 

Yugoslavia had a guy post-war for 30+ years. Tito?  Singapore went from an impoverished nation to one of the richest nations in Asia under the dictatorship of some chappy (can't remember his name).

 

Hastings Banda of Malawi started quite promisingly, as did Mugabe, but they both went off the rails a tad and definitely became malevolent.

[StompGrind]

Yugoslavia had a guy post-war for 30+ years. Tito?  Singapore went from an impoverished nation to one of the richest nations in Asia under the dictatorship of some chappy (can't remember his name).

 

Hastings Banda of Malawi started quite promisingly, as did Mugabe, but they both went off the rails a tad and definitely became malevolent.

You have me interested in looking up the history now to find out what the difference may be with those people.

 

The main issue as i see it with dictators as opposed to democratically elected officials is there is nothing to check a dictator except themselves so if they get too heavy handed as to encourage full on rebellion this is the only check and most people cower to stand up to that out of survival instinct so that power they wield goes to their head fast and their ego "I know what's best for everyone and will enforce that by any means" becomes the prevailing thought in how they operate until they're habitually crossing lines. 

 

Where as an elected official there is only so much time they can hold an office so it's more about legacy ( which is ego driven as well ) but at least they try doing their best for most where as with dictators it's all about hespect my authoritai or off with u head. 

 

Do you think there should be term limits for ALL elected officials? Or do you see it more like well they're professionals politicians just like any other profession i.e. we don't put term limits of CEO's. It's performance based and the market speaks. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by StompGrind

[MoZZez]

Yugoslavia had a guy post-war for 30+ years. Tito? Singapore went from an impoverished nation to one of the richest nations in Asia under the dictatorship of some chappy (can't remember his name).

 

Hastings Banda of Malawi started quite promisingly, as did Mugabe, but they both went off the rails a tad and definitely became malevolent.

To be fair.

Democratic elected politicians have driven the US 20 trillion in debt while splitting the country in sides, Canada's politicians give away half our **** for rock bottom prices while opening the borders for anyone with a sad story.

 

So elected officials are not all sugar and spice. Though a dictator cannot be changed easy.

 

Ying and yang.

[pjbear05]

I'm on the fence on term limits.  It's like wine, some turn out great, some turn into vinegar.  Same with politicians

 

On other boards I have a bad habit of posting about instituting Vince Flynn style term limits.  (Vince's fans know, the rest of ya, start reading.)

[stehilton94]

Jon Jones is and always will be the greatest fighter of all time regardless of PED's/Coke and hit and runs. GSP would have been if it were not for his 2 loses

[POTUF]

Jon Jones is and always will be the greatest fighter of all time regardless of PED's/Coke and hit and runs. GSP would have been if it were not for his 2 loses

 

GSP is the most overrated fighter of all time. His opponents went 37-43 collectively after fighting him, proving they were all hype jobs.

 

Edited April 24, 2018 by TUF

[Bubba_Sparks]

You have me interested in looking up the history now to find out what the difference may be with those people.

 

The main issue as i see it with dictators as opposed to democratically elected officials is there is nothing to check a dictator except themselves so if they get too heavy handed as to encourage full on rebellion this is the only check and most people cower to stand up to that out of survival instinct so that power they wield goes to their head fast and their ego "I know what's best for everyone and will enforce that by any means" becomes the prevailing thought in how they operate until they're habitually crossing lines.

 

Where as an elected official there is only so much time they can hold an office so it's more about legacy ( which is ego driven as well ) but at least they try doing their best for most where as with dictators it's all about hespect my authoritai or off with u head.

 

Do you think there should be term limits for ALL elected officials? Or do you see it more like well they're professionals politicians just like any other profession i.e. we don't put term limits of CEO's. It's performance based and the market speaks.

I'm talking about benevolent dictators.

The basic premise is that 4/5 years is often not long enough to see the benefit of major overhauls in policy/ infrastructure/ society. In some cases, things can get worse before they get better. Consequently any major change in a country that makes things generally worse for a few years before making them much better will just not be done by a politician who needs to be re- elected in 5 years. A benevolent dictator otoh... they can take a longer term view.

 

Your first paragraph is hard to dispute. My premise is simply that if it were possible to ensure a dictator remained benevolent then I believe they would be much better suited to run a country than someone voted in by the largely ignorant voters.

[chons]

Yugoslavia had a guy post-war for 30+ years. Tito?  Singapore went from an impoverished nation to one of the richest nations in Asia under the dictatorship of some chappy (can't remember his name).

 

Hastings Banda of Malawi started quite promisingly, as did Mugabe, but they both went off the rails a tad and definitely became malevolent.

I just read about Tito, I'm 1/4 Yugoslavian and I've never heard of him. Pretty cool story. 

[stehilton94]

GSP is the most overrated fighter of all time. His opponents went 37-43 collectively after fighting him, proving they were all hype jobs.

 

 

Ooooh I like you 

[TwennyFo]

Contrary to popular belief Money does buy you happiness.

 

The best things in life are not free.

[Nyte]

Black Panther was overrated