Here we go again with missing weight

[nkogneato]

This is becoming a all to familiar topic.  Why can't UFC manage their fighters any better than this.  Make some simple rule changes and fix it forever.  How about, you weigh in the morning of the fight, if you miss weight, you have 2 hours to weigh again, if you miss the second time, you lose?  Simple. 

 

That way dudes like Till wont try to drop 35-40 lbs.  He would have to move up to middle weight, watch his diet, and not balloon up the day and a half after weigh in.  That's way too long from weigh in to fighting.  This is getting old quick.  If he wins, that will be like the 9th heavy fighter to gain a victory after coming in heavy.  Please do something.

[BigDaddyDelta]

This is becoming a all to familiar topic. Why can't UFC manage their fighters any better than this. Make some simple rule changes and fix it forever. How about, you weigh in the morning of the fight, if you miss weight, you have 2 hours to weigh again, if you miss the second time, you lose? Simple.

 

That way dudes like Till wont try to drop 35-40 lbs. He would have to move up to middle weight, watch his diet, and not balloon up the day and a half after weigh in. That's way too long from weigh in to fighting. This is getting old quick. If he wins, that will be like the 9th heavy fighter to gain a victory after coming in heavy. Please do something.

i believe the athletic commissions are the one who make the weight rules

[BarbaricBob]

Hydration testing during the weeks leading up to the fight. Everyone will to fight at their natural weight. It will make for more entertaining fights, and longer careers. Literally everybody wins.

[smwwrest]

Hydration testing during the weeks leading up to the fight. Everyone will to fight at their natural weight. It will make for more entertaining fights, and longer careers. Literally everybody wins.

This is a great idea but cost prohibitive for the UFC.

[PlatinumClegg]

Get rid of the early morning weigh ins.  That's the biggest problem right now is fighters have to go to sleep basically on weight.  When the ceremonial weigh ins were the real deal they could wake up 10-12 pounds over weight and it wasn't an issue because they had a solid 8+ hours to drop water weight.

 

Multiple fighters have complained about the early morning weighs in.  The most notable being Daniel Cormier.  I believe him when he says it sucks trying to sleep all dried out.

[juice64011]

Get rid of the early morning weigh ins. That's the biggest problem right now is fighters have to go to sleep basically on weight. When the ceremonial weigh ins were the real deal they could wake up 10-12 pounds over weight and it wasn't an issue because they had a solid 8+ hours to drop water weight.

 

Multiple fighters have complained about the early morning weighs in. The most notable being Daniel Cormier. I believe him when he says it sucks trying to sleep all dried out.

True, the morning weigh ins are not working out like they wanted.

[cashfl0w]

Who would have thought people wanted to cut weight, weigh in, and rehydrate themselves BEFORE they go to sleep for the night??

 

You would almost have to be clairvoyant to have seen that coming.

[CanPass]

 

Multiple fighters have complained about the early morning weighs in.  The most notable being Daniel Cormier.  I believe him when he says it sucks trying to sleep all dried out.

Probably feels like you have a chance of never waking up when you go to bed the night before.

[Bezerker101]

orchestration

[Spooky_Shawn]

Finally, I was waiting for someone to post about this.

[PunchBag]

Since till missed weight hes almost guaranteed a title fight in his next fight if he wins since the trend at moment is giving title fights to guys who just missed weight.

[Yerbo]

True, the morning weigh ins are not working out like they wanted.

And it was sooooo hard to predict hah.

[zaksame]

This is fukn pathetic and NO WAY should Wonderboy accept the fight.

Instead he should have made an announcement that the UFC should better handle the rules and weigh ins and NOT put all the pressure on WB to accept.

This way when a fight gets cancelled a LOT of pressure gets put on Till instead of WB who did his job making weight.

 

Till doesn't have to endure last minute weight cuts taking a huge toll on the body.

I do however like that WB's team made some restrictions but in the end,i expect Till to get off easy and go in unscathed aside from losing 30%.

The main reason these fighters missing weight are total bull crap is because if they win they look to bigger contracts,paid a LOT more money,so that 30% is an absolute joke.If Till wins he moves up the ladder and Thompson down the ladder,how does the 30% matter then?

 

This is the second time Till has missed weight,i say kick him right out of the 170 division because obviously he does NOT belong at 170 and is only using size to compete.At 185 he likely doesn't even make top 10 EVER.

[Megasoup]

This is fukn pathetic and NO WAY should Wonderboy accept the fight.

Instead he should have made an announcement that the UFC should better handle the rules and weigh ins and NOT put all the pressure on WB to accept.

This way when a fight gets cancelled a LOT of pressure gets put on Till instead of WB who did his job making weight.

 

Till doesn't have to endure last minute weight cuts taking a huge toll on the body.

I do however like that WB's team made some restrictions but in the end,i expect Till to get off easy and go in unscathed aside from losing 30%.

The main reason these fighters missing weight are total bull crap is because if they win they look to bigger contracts,paid a LOT more money,so that 30% is an absolute joke.If Till wins he moves up the ladder and Thompson down the ladder,how does the 30% matter then?

 

This is the second time Till has missed weight,i say kick him right out of the 170 division because obviously he does NOT belong at 170 and is only using size to compete.At 185 he likely doesn't even make top 10 EVER.

Why are you so upset?

[the_vagenius]

they need openweight classes,

for men

125-155 pigletweight

156-185 hogletweight

186+ baconatorweight

for women

115-140 methweight

141+ skankweight

weight cutting is out of hand

[stonedpimp]

they should either put the weigh ins back to day before, or make it right before the fight and make it so they get a dq for missing weight. they need to decide 1 direction or the other tho. i say let them all be juiced up WCCs. mma was  more entertaining when we didn't care they was all juiced and cutting way to much weight.

[oso]

I think hydration testing is probably the best way to go, but with that, the UFC should implement weight classes at every ten pounds. You have plenty of fighters so that divisions wouldn't be empty. It'd also help fighters who are currently inbetweeners, ex. Kelvin Gastelum. No way is he a 185er, but fatboy refuses to fix his diet and make 170, which I think he could absolutely make, but a 175 class should be doable, and we don't see him taking on guys like Weidman who are really better suited for a 195 or even 205 class. But given the state of things he cuts around 30 lbs for that size advantage when he blows back up. Also, it's safer, less chance of someone screwing up their cut and having a seizure, ex. Steve Montgomery, who was on the Ultimate Fighter who miscalculated his electrolyte intake, and the girl from Australia who DIED trying to cut weight into a division she probably shouldn't have been in. There are better ways and solutions, but people like what they know.

[Furiousmat]

yeah.. I don't know why they don't put weight measurements as part of USADA testing. Just have them weigh the fighters when they show up for that piss.

You have to be on weight (maybe let there be some reasonable margin pre-fight) for a month or two before the fight. If fighters had to stay within 5 lbs of their division weight for several weeks we'd hear no more weight-cut drama "oh I had a flu the week before", "my mother was sick", "deer meat clogged my kidneys". 

 

I mean that's retarded. What do you want their opponent to do in cases like that. If they were to decline the fight, they'll take massive fire from fans, probably also from the UFC, they miss a pay check, etc.. I think it's starting to become clear that some fighters have figured out that just not making weight and losing part of their purse was actually a legit way of advancing their career if it can help them win an important fight. And their opponent can't really say "well **** this then we're not having that fight" because ****.. they've trained all this time, they have bills and coaches to pay too, and they have massive pressure on them.

[VertFTW]

Now that its really hard to use PED's and not get caught it seems like not doing weight cut is the new way to get an unfair advantage...

[nkogneato]

Honestly, I don't know what the answer is, or who should make the call, but again, the fighter that came in heavy, won.  9/9 have came in heavy and won, so what, they lose 30%, Wonderboy will now drop in ranking, and Till will be getting a title shot, so what's 30% compared to what Wonderboy lost. 

 

It's just very disappointing that this obvious advantage is going unchecked.  In HS wrestling the hardest lbs. to cut, were always the last 3-5, and these fighters are not putting themselves through that, and winning because of it. 

[-idyb-]

Now that its really hard to use PED's and not get caught it seems like not doing weight cut is the new way to get an unfair advantage...

 

 

[skillandpower]

Now that its really hard to use PED's and not get caught it seems like not doing weight cut is the new way to get an unfair advantage...

Says a Romero fan ... I knew Vert! I knew that was the new thing Romero did.

[skillandpower]

One more guy does not cut weight properly, gets the W, moves up on ranking and nobody will ever talk about this a week from now.

 

RDA and Colby should also consider not cutting the weight, not get the interim belt in case of a W but still get a title shot just like Yoel did.

[VertFTW]

Says a Romero fan ... I knew Vert! I knew that was the new thing Romero did.

 

lol funny because Yoel didnt really need that advantage in this fight.

[skillandpower]

lol funny because Yoel didnt really need that advantage in this fight.

Didnt need it because he was able to finish Luke but dont you think it was kinda part of his plan ? Come on Vert

[VertFTW]

Didnt need it because he was able to finish Luke but dont you think it was kinda part of his plan ? Come on Vert

 

Luke had a terrible gameplan that lead to that KO..would have lost either way since he was absolutely depleted.

[PlatinumClegg]

Who would have thought people wanted to cut weight, weigh in, and rehydrate themselves BEFORE they go to sleep for the night??

 

You would almost have to be clairvoyant to have seen that coming.

 

I'm not sure where this was aimed.  If it was at my comment I'm talking about the night before weigh ins, not the night before the fight.

 

With early morning weigh ins some of them are sleeping or trying to sleep already on weight.  When they weighed in the afternoon they had plenty of time to get the weight down the day of the weighs ins.  They then still had plenty of time to rehydrate before fighting.

 

Early morning weigh ins are a disaster.  Go back to afternoon weighs ins and for f*cks sake bring back IVs.  No IV is just retarded because it affects a fighters health.

[cashfl0w]

I'm not sure where this was aimed. If it was at my comment I'm talking about the night before weigh ins, not the night before the fight.

 

With early morning weigh ins some of them are sleeping or trying to sleep already on weight. When they weighed in the afternoon they had plenty of time to get the weight down the day of the weighs ins. They then still had plenty of time to rehydrate before fighting.

 

Early morning weigh ins are a disaster. Go back to afternoon weighs ins and for f*cks sake bring back IVs. No IV is just retarded because it affects a fighters health.

Aimed at the UFC. Not anybody here.

 

Just find the logic behind it all not very solid. They're dehydrated and feel like they're going to die. I'm fairly certain they don't want to go to sleep halfway through it.

 

It used to be that they had a good 12-14 hours to really go at it on the last day. Then they hit the scales, and rehydrate immediately after. Then they got a good night sleep.

 

Now, it's chaos.

[skillandpower]

UFC also doesnt want anyone passing out on live TV when it used to be the classic night before weigh in style lol

[BarbaricBob]

This is a great idea but cost prohibitive for the UFC.

When considering how many fights fall apart due to bad weight cuts (including huge main events like Khabib vs Tony) it may actually save them money in the long run. Tons of high school and college wrestling programs practice hydration testing. So it can't possibly be thay expensive. You could even skip the hydration testing and have USADA carry scales when they pop in for random testing. If you're a LW and you weight above 185 at a random weigh in, you're now a WW. Problem solved.