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1 hour ago, classicboxer said:

Why are Europeans against the "Super League"?

Three main reasons. Firstly, you're playing the same very limited set of teams over and over again. 

And secondly, it's a closed shop. There's very limited promotion/ relegation. So it won't necessarily be the best teams involved, just the richest. 

Finally, it would result in anyone being involved in that getting booted out of existing leagues, like the English/ Spanish/ Italian domestic leagues

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On 5/3/2021 at 5:11 PM, classicboxer said:

Why are Europeans against the "Super League"?

What Bubba said. European fans just aren't used to the NBA / NFL model where all the teams are the same year in, year out with no relegation.

I'm a fan of both models and both have their ups and downs. People just resist change, understandably so.

Even though we have relegation in Europe, the strong teams are basically always the same. In the quasi socialist NBA / NFL you can see huge turnaround in a matter of months

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16 hours ago, MauroPedrosa said:

European fans just aren't used to the NBA / NFL model where all the teams are the same year in, year out with no relegation.

Relegation adds pressure and excitement to any game. I wish the Rugby Six Nations would adapt, as the likes of Italy have out stayed their welcome and the likes of Georgia and Romania are waiting in the winds

 

16 hours ago, MauroPedrosa said:

Even though we have relegation in Europe, the strong teams are basically always the same. 

 

Agreed. But only in the likes of Spain, France, Germany and Italy. The English game has now become the Powerhouse in Football. In the Premier league, the 'Top 2' have now become the Top ..... and the bottom 3 can be anyone

Even the teams in the League down from the Premier league, could handle themselves in any of the other 'Top' leagues in Europe. That's the strength of the English league system

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The race for the top 4 is so open right now, any of the teams in the mix from 3rd - 8th could easily get the last 2 spots, I think Chelsea and West Ham have the advantage due to their current point totals and West Ham have the easiest run in until the end

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Having derided Arsenal for years for celebrating their "4th place trophy", I'm going to do no more than breathe a sigh of relief at finishing 3rd.  Weird, crazy season; losing 7-2 to Villa and 6 consecutive home defeats is relegation form, so I can't grumble.  Felt like our defence was over before it began once we lost pretty much our entire back line, so let's see how we get on next season.  Citeh best time by a country mile, and I expect them to crush Chelski in the CL final.  With a bit of luck we'll get to see John Terry crying again.

Funny how the media narrative differs from the fan's reality sometimes.  It was all about "heartache" for Leicester; the couple of Leicester fans I know are still hungover from winning the prem. 5 years ago, and ecstatic to lift the FA cup this year.  Consequently they don't seem that bothered about missing out on the CL.  Fair play to them. Proper fans.

And finally...Viva Villareal!

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1 hour ago, Conceive-Believe-Achieve said:

Gutted for City

Does that mean Frankie boy gets a medal too??

I'm gutted that Chelsea won, but it was one of those games where I wanted both sides to lose. 

I've posed this question many times before, but here it is again. 

Pep Guardiola; is he all that?

For me the answer is still no. 

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5 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

I'm gutted that Chelsea won, but it was one of those games where I wanted both sides to lose. 

I've posed this question many times before, but here it is again. 

Pep Guardiola; is he all that?

For me the answer is still no. 

There’s only one way to find out. 
 

Make him Manager of Leicester City and give him a 20 million pound transfer fund. 
 

On paper he’s done the business everywhere he’s gone. However, we all know he’s taken on good squads and been trusted in the transfer market. 
 

There’s no question he improves players. Foden is prime example 

 

In my opinion. He’s the GOAT

 

 

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5 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

I'm gutted that Chelsea won, but it was one of those games where I wanted both sides to lose. 

I've posed this question many times before, but here it is again. 

Pep Guardiola; is he all that?

For me the answer is still no. 

Bottling it over and over again in the Champions League while being the betting favorite for the last 4 years eliminates him from the GOAT debate.

He's a good manager, and with the right players he will play some amazing football. That 09 Barcelona team was the best squad I've ever seen, and he played a big part in it

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59 minutes ago, MauroPedrosa said:

Bottling it over and over again in the Champions League while being the betting favorite for the last 4 years eliminates him from the GOAT debate.

He's a good manager, and with the right players he will play some amazing football. That 09 Barcelona team was the best squad I've ever seen, and he played a big part in it

Yeah, that's the way I see it tbh. Can take a very good team and improve them a bit. 

Klopp and prime Mourinho took teams to a level they'd never reached before though. I'd put those two plus Rafa above Pep in recent times. You could make a half decent case for Ranieri after what he achieved with Leicester. 

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So...Euro 2020 is on us. That kind of crept up on me really.

Who've you guys got for this?  I think this is the first year with the new format where basically everyone apart from the cans gets through to the knockout round (so sorry, @MauroPedrosa)

Can't find it unfortunately, but I saw an amusing Venn diagram of all teams.  The three categories were Favourites, Dark Horses and No chance.  England were the only team they placed in all three categories.

I'm going with my second team, Belgium.  De Bruyn looks like the best player in the world right now, plus their "stars" tend to show up in the big tournaments.  England are actually the bookies favourites, so I expect a disappointing quarter final defeat.

 

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1 hour ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

So...Euro 2020 is on us. 

Not bothered. I can’t actually believe I said that!!

But the truth is, this is the first Football tournament, I won’t be tuning in for!

Football is not coming home!

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3 hours ago, Conceive-Believe-Achieve said:

Not bothered. I can’t actually believe I said that!!

But the truth is, this is the first Football tournament, I won’t be tuning in for!

Football is not coming home!

I feel fairly apathetic about it tbh. I can't get into major tournaments in odd numbered years unless it's rugby. Just feels wrong.  Even the Olympics is dead to me.

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10 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

So...Euro 2020 is on us. That kind of crept up on me really.

Who've you guys got for this?  I think this is the first year with the new format where basically everyone apart from the cans gets through to the knockout round (so sorry, @MauroPedrosa)

Can't find it unfortunately, but I saw an amusing Venn diagram of all teams.  The three categories were Favourites, Dark Horses and No chance.  England were the only team they placed in all three categories.

I'm going with my second team, Belgium.  De Bruyn looks like the best player in the world right now, plus their "stars" tend to show up in the big tournaments.  England are actually the bookies favourites, so I expect a disappointing quarter final defeat.

 

Portugal vs England final. Belgium's golden generation is aging, their time to win has probably passed

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