Megasoup Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Khabib Nurmagomedov might be retired, but the debates about his fighting career are still going on. The latest take about Khabib’s career came from former UFC Interim champion Colby Covington who said that Khabib never fought a high-level wrestler. Colby went on to add that Khabib even had a tough time against Gleison Tibau. "Khabib Nurmagomedov never really fought a high-level wrestler that could challenge him or that was good, you know, in both areas of striking and wrestling and submissions and defensive wrestling. So, you know there's always been those doubts about Khabib's legacy... Even, a lot of people thought that he lost to a guy he used to train with all the time, Tibau. Gleison Tibau. He won a split decision over him but a lot of people thought he lost that fight so I definitely think that puts a damper on Khabib's legacy,” Colby had noted in his recent interview with Submission Radio. Recently, Dana White had also talked about how Khabib cannot be considered as the UFC G.O.A.T due to his early retirement. The Russian ended his MMA career back in October 2020 with an unblemished record of 29-0 which saw him pick up wins against names like Dustin Poirier, Conor McGregor, Edson Barboza, and Justin Gaethje. Since his retirement, Khabib has shifted focus to his business endeavors and is now enjoying his time as a promoter for Eagle Fighting Championship. https://lockerroom.in/blog/view/Khabib-Nurmagomedov-Colby-Covington?fbclid=IwAR2qSzRV6SuxyO2EDl_WHMKbhZzl-XQqH64Jpy1CYC_fHjW4HluRX2V7N2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillandpower Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Yes, I wish we could had watched Khabib fighting against someone with all the attributes that Colby mentioned BUT it was not Khabib’s fault that this fighter didn’t come along. His dad passed away and he stated that he would no longer fight without his dad so it is hard to attack him for that. I wish he would come back to fight Oliveira and Usman but we know it wouldn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, skillandpower said: Yes, I wish we could had watched Khabib fighting against someone with all the attributes that Colby mentioned BUT it was not Khabib’s fault that this fighter didn’t come along. His dad passed away and he stated that he would no longer fight without his dad so it is hard to attack him for that. I wish he would come back to fight Oliveira and Usman but we know it wouldn’t happen. Khabib fought in the UFC for almost 10 years (I'm not googling the exact figure.) To have managed to avoid fighting a high-caliber wrestler in a sport dominated by high-caliber wrestlers for that entire stretch was no accident. The UFC managed to avoid signing pedigreed wrestlers in the lightweight division for a few years there, which is an incredible feat, baffling to a degree which leads me to think it was a conspiracy. I remember doing a little web browsing and I found that Khabib was signed around the same time a Abu Dhabi based corporation bought a significant share in the UFC. It's a long-shot, but my theory is there was a backroom deal where Dana promised to try clear the path for a Muslim champion in exchange for the deal. And there has never been a path in the UFC so clear as the one blazed for Khabib. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Sparks Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 @I_Take_Roids_m8, do you have a rebuttal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillandpower Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Megasoup said: Khabib fought in the UFC for almost 10 years (I'm not googling the exact figure.) To have managed to avoid fighting a high-caliber wrestler in a sport dominated by high-caliber wrestlers for that entire stretch was no accident. The UFC managed to avoid signing pedigreed wrestlers in the lightweight division for a few years there, which is an incredible feat, baffling to a degree which leads me to think it was a conspiracy. I remember doing a little web browsing and I found that Khabib was signed around the same time a Abu Dhabi based corporation bought a significant share in the UFC. It's a long-shot, but my theory is there was a backroom deal where Dana promised to try clear the path for a Muslim champion in exchange for the deal. And there has never been a path in the UFC so clear as the one blazed for Khabib. I know mate but what we saw is that Khabib let the UFC hanging out of a huge rematch with Conor that would make a bunch load of money but also Khabib starting his own promotion. I can see where you are coming from but I still think Dana would not agree to it considering that they want the monopoly of MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, skillandpower said: I know mate but what we saw is that Khabib let the UFC hanging out of a huge rematch with Conor that would make a bunch load of money but also Khabib starting his own promotion. I can see where you are coming from but I still think Dana would not agree to it considering that they want the monopoly of MMA When the UFC signed Khabib, he was a very, very young man and he could only see so far ahead. It’s unlikely he anticipated Khabib opening his own promotion, and i’m sure he’s not too fond of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 That's because there are no high level wrestlers that could challenge him at Lightweight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-idyb- Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 im drunk. who are you trying to say beat khabib? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-idyb- Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 im ****ing drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPride Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 NCAA division 1 All American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 . 4 hours ago, OzPride said: NCAA division 1 All American Justin Gaethje is half-Mexican, so he can't technically be all-American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPride Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Megasoup said: . Justin Gaethje is half-Mexican, so he can't technically be all-American. You're two halfs retarded. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Horse Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 He lost to tibau. /end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-idyb- Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 10 hours ago, -idyb- said: im drunk. who are you trying to say beat khabib? 10 hours ago, -idyb- said: im ****ing drunk god dammit i dont remember posting these lol but yeah i was most definately on the sauce last night not feeling it so much anymore though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-idyb- Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, Dark_Horse said: He lost to tibau. /end no he didnt. much like GSP, The Great Khabib has defeated every single opponent and drug test he has ever faced. don't hate. appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijosef Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 I thought he lost the Tibau fight as well, but it's all water under the bridge and he officially retired undefeated. Gaethje is a stellar wrestler but it's almost like he's forgotten how - I know a lot of the wrestlers say it's something you need to continually practice if you want to keep your timing, and Justin seems to be more focused on throwing hands than anything else. I actually wanted to see him fight Brian Ortega, as that would've been an interesting stylistic matchup. Khabib's constant pressure and top control and Ortega's infamous grappling game. I'd still favor Khabib since submission wrestling > pure BJJ, especially in an MMA contest. That Ortega match almost happened too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Take_Roids_m8 Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 @Bubba_Sparks I'm not going to waste my time with a rebuttal because honestly it's not worth it. Sambo > All other martial arts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Who could he have fought? Gregor? That dude is Kevin Lee's only win in 6 years and he got head kick KO'ed. Kevin Lee got strangled by RDA and Khabib beat a prime RDA 30-26. Colby on about 14 different occasions has bragged about having a lower walking weight than Dustin. Maybe he should've went to lightweight after the first Usman fight. They would've let him jump the line because it's just business. They know he would say a lot of crazy **** and be all pro Murica/Trump. Call him Kabob and just as he's saying he would point out that he's never fought a wrestler like himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumClegg Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Colby would also steal a lot of McGregor lines and trash talk Khabib's terrorist manager. Sounds like he missed out on a fat check to sit around fighting once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshNOS Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 The truth of the matter is most people's conception about Khabib not fighting a high level wrestler are very untrue, in fact, he's faced several. Al Iaquinta has great wrestling -- got shut down by Khabib. Justin Gaethje got shut down. And going way back, Abel Trujillo (who is a much better wrestler than a lot of people realize since he never made it to the top of the card since he had more a tendency to get into wild brawls rather than to properly use his wrestling), well. We know how that ended. Khabib broke the record for most takedowns landed in a single fight against Abel. Abel completely shut down Marcus LeVesseur who was one of the best wrestlers in NCAA history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, JoshNOS said: And going way back, Abel Trujillo (who is a much better wrestler than a lot of people realize since he never made it to the top of the card since he had more a tendency to get into wild brawls rather than to properly use his wrestling), well. We know how that ended. Khabib broke the record for most takedowns landed in a single fight against Abel. Abel completely shut down Marcus LeVesseur who was one of the best wrestlers in NCAA history. "On July 16, 2019, he was charged with the sexual exploitation of a child,[53] and on March 6, 2020, Trujillo pleaded guilty to promoting obscenity. His sentencing was scheduled for April 6, 2020.[54] Trujillo was sentenced to two years of probation on August 31, 2020." https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ExUFC-Fighter-Abel-Trujillo-Charged-with-Felony-Sexual-Exploitation-of-a-Child-158533 If Abel is your "go-to guy"when you want to prove a point, I'm not comfortable debating with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conceive-Believe-Achieve Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 He just had his camps in one of the most heavily dense wrasslin gyms in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshNOS Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Megasoup said: "On July 16, 2019, he was charged with the sexual exploitation of a child,[53] and on March 6, 2020, Trujillo pleaded guilty to promoting obscenity. His sentencing was scheduled for April 6, 2020.[54] Trujillo was sentenced to two years of probation on August 31, 2020." https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ExUFC-Fighter-Abel-Trujillo-Charged-with-Felony-Sexual-Exploitation-of-a-Child-158533 If Abel is your "go-to guy"when you want to prove a point, I'm not comfortable debating with you. Nice projection. I do not support Abel whatsoever. I was only pointing out his wrestling skill. But the dude is scum of the earth. I am not comfortable debating someone who jumps to conclusions like a toddler who hasn't had its bedtime story yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasoup Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 hours ago, JoshNOS said: Nice projection. I do not support Abel whatsoever. I was only pointing out his wrestling skill. But the dude is scum of the earth. I am not comfortable debating someone who jumps to conclusions like a toddler who hasn't had its bedtime story yet. Listen, I’m just not ready to concede my position. I’ve been on the same side of the debate for a long time, so if you’re bringing in any facts which weaken my argument, I’m gonna have to use dirty tricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshNOS Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Megasoup said: Listen, I’m just not ready to concede my position. I’ve been on the same side of the debate for a long time, so if you’re bringing in any facts which weaken my argument, I’m gonna have to use dirty tricks. Lol I don't like considering Jon Jones in the Top 5 considering how much of a POS he is, but facts are facts. Doesn't mean I sympathize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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