Jump to content
UFC® Fight Club – Forum

Volk vs Max 3 this summer

BarbaricBob

By BarbaricBob
in UFC

 Share

Recommended Posts

BarbaricBob

BarbaricBob

Posted
  • Author
Posted
3 hours ago, juice64011 said:

UFC needs one of these young guys to get a big win. Volk is running out of opponents. 

They keep matching guys up with Max instead of going around him. They could have had Josh Emmett fight Yair for the next title shot. If they match Colby with Khamzat, we could see the same situation at WW.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bwana

Bwana

Posted
Posted
14 minutes ago, BarbaricBob said:

They keep matching guys up with Max instead of going around him. They could have had Josh Emmett fight Yair for the next title shot. If they match Colby with Khamzat, we could see the same situation at WW.

Yair wouldn't show up for a UFC lobster dinner with all the trimmings.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Nyte

Nyte

Posted
Posted

Second fight was close. I can't remember exactly what was the deciding factor, as I've only watched it once, but I remember thinking Max won

Based on the scorecard, clear Max had 1+2 and Volk 3+4, so 5th was the deciding

All I'm saying is... Volk clearly one first fight - second fight was controversial - I just hope somebody dominates the third one.

image.thumb.png.8a44944b0a960557764bc351aae720bb.pngBased on the scoreca

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bubba_Sparks

Bubba_Sparks

Posted
Posted
48 minutes ago, Nyte said:

Second fight was close. I can't remember exactly what was the deciding factor, as I've only watched it once, but I remember thinking Max won

Based on the scorecard, clear Max had 1+2 and Volk 3+4, so 5th was the deciding

All I'm saying is... Volk clearly one first fight - second fight was controversial - I just hope somebody dominates the third one.

image.thumb.png.8a44944b0a960557764bc351aae720bb.pngBased on the scoreca

Yeah, this is becoming a problem tbh.  If Max wins, then how the heck do you deny Volk a rematch given Max got two rematches.  But who wants a 4th fight?

If Volk wins, then who fights for the belt next? Guess it has to be Allen; everyone else has either lost to Max, Volk or both.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Nyte

Nyte

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

Yeah, this is becoming a problem tbh.  If Max wins, then how the heck do you deny Volk a rematch given Max got two rematches.  But who wants a 4th fight?

If Volk wins, then who fights for the belt next? Guess it has to be Allen; everyone else has either lost to Max, Volk or both.

If Volk wins, he needs to move up to LW and challenge winner of Gaethe/Olivera. 

If he loses , I think he should still move up. He said he wants to move up anyways 

  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bubba_Sparks

Bubba_Sparks

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, Nyte said:

If Volk wins, he needs to move up to LW and challenge winner of Gaethe/Olivera. 

If he loses , I think he should still move up. He said he wants to move up anyways 

I don't agree with an instant title shot if he moves up. Maybe a top 5. 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
cashfl0w

cashfl0w

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

Yeah, this is becoming a problem tbh.  If Max wins, then how the heck do you deny Volk a rematch given Max got two rematches.  But who wants a 4th fight?

If Volk wins, then who fights for the belt next? Guess it has to be Allen; everyone else has either lost to Max, Volk or both.

I think the UFC has proven time and again, they purposely put on fights they hope will lead to rematches, trilogies, quadrilogies or whatever the **** it's called.. 

The fans and what they want doesn't matter. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bwana

Bwana

Posted
Posted
13 hours ago, Bubba_Sparks said:

Yeah, this is becoming a problem tbh.  If Max wins, then how the heck do you deny Volk a rematch given Max got two rematches.  But who wants a 4th fight?

If Volk wins, then who fights for the belt next? Guess it has to be Allen; everyone else has either lost to Max, Volk or both.

MMA math usually doesn't work, styles make fights and effect outcome.

  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bubba_Sparks

Bubba_Sparks

Posted
Posted
On 5/6/2022 at 10:57 PM, Bwana said:

MMA math usually doesn't work, styles make fights and effect outcome.

That's a moot point. I'm not talking about how would win - more the reality that if you've just lost to Max, you're not going to get a title shot against Volk. 

Look at the rankings. Ortega is ranked as number 2 behind Max/Volk. He's 1-2 in his last 3 fights. Yair is number 3. He's 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights.  Kattar is number 4. He's 2-1 in his last 3 fights.  KZ is number 5. He's 1-2 in his last 3 fights.  Then you get to Allen, who's on an 11 fight win streak (but hasn't fought anyone really).

It's really hard to justify throwing any of the top 5 in with Max or Volk. They're just not on decent runs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...
Megasoup

Megasoup

Posted
Posted

Max Holloway can beat just about anybody, except for opponents who are really, really good.  That is impressive, but I'm not sure if it's worthy of always being in a title fight. 

 

His matchups are consistently either

a. opponents who can't string together two wins in a row

       or

b. the Champion of the division

 

Whose duck did he sick to get himself in such an enviable position?  Also, why are the featherweight ranks filled with unimpressive, elderly fighters who've been with the company since around the time Myspace was king of the hill?  Aren't there any wrestlers fresh out of college who can't find real jobs, or at least some more of them Abe Lincoln-bearded fellers from Dagestan?  Not a single athletic black kid who was too short for basketball and has taken an interest in MMA and likes to pump steroids in his azz?  Are any of these young folks even doing steroids anymore?  For the love of Pete, we need to do something!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Megasoup

Megasoup

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, cashfl0w said:

A lot of people who know what they're talking about (not you) think Max beat Volkanovski in the second fight.

In sports, there are all sorts of groups which people could be placed in.  Obviously you have the professional athletes, the broadcasters, the promoters, the athletic comissions, but there are also the less heard of factions like the concessions, the manufacturers of athletic equipment, the folks who construct different stages, rings platforms or other apparatus for the venue.

 

 Right smack in the middle is one group, the fans, and they're split right down the center, so that they are inarguably two  distinct and separate groups:

1. the rabid fans who follow every game, has total recall of every competitor and knows all the statistics

2. the less-engaged-but-no-less-passionate fans who used to play the sport at an intermediate-to-high level and stay loosely connected to the actual sport as its played out on the ground floor for the rest of their lives.  

 

The curious thing about these two groups is that they both argue over who is the expert; who "knows what they're talking about."  They both have decent arguments.  The guy who competed in amateur boxing and MMA and trained BJJ in and out of the gi for several years most certainly doesn't know every factoid about and statistic and only watches a fraction of the events, usually the free ones, unless he's at a bar with some of his jujitsu buddies where they're showing a pay-per-view.  Clearly he's not an expert at following the sport or being a fan.  But...when he is watching, he knows what he's watching, he knows what he's looking at. 

 

You likely have me beaten this round.  You probably have and will continue to beat me every round when it comes to fight predictions or analysis, because I don't watch near enough of it.  I can't say I know for sure if Max got the better of Volkanovski in that second fight.  I don't even remember if I saw it.    But I much prefer my perspective for the times I do catch a pay-per-view.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Nyte

Nyte

Posted
Posted
20 hours ago, cashfl0w said:

A lot of people who know what they're talking about (not you) think Max beat Volkanovski in the second fight.

This is true, I said Max beat him moments after their fight ended

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...