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Kimbo Would Be HW Champ if This was UFC 1

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Just because the rules were more suited for him. He's a street fighter, basically no holds barred fight to death, bar room brawling, which is his bread and butter. With all the rules he's just not the same fighter. He'll be decent but with the way todays rules are, it puts him at a huge disadvantage. He'll never be HW champ.

 

But if we turned the clock back to the old days, same rules, but have the current fighters. Kimbo would tool everyone. Kimbo would kill anyone in a street fight. Fedor, Brock, you name it. I doubt Fedor or Brock have ever been in a street fight, so Kimbo has the experience over that, plus he's been through it, and knows what its like to get hit bare knuckle. And Old school UFC is what that replicated down to the very T.

 

So yes, if this was the old days of UFC, we would see Kimbo dominating.. But since its the unified rules, Kimbo is at a massive disadvantage. Basically taking his weapons away from him, and his backyard. So I think with the way its set up, Kimbo just wont be able to adjust and be champion in todays UFC. The rules dont suit him well, and its hard to adjust when he's been a street fighter his whole life. You guys remember what he did to Tank Abbot right? And that wasnt even a street fight. Imagine what he'd do to Fedor or Brock in a street fight..

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Hey what's happend to this forum, is it some kind of mas psychosis or what? Kimbo would probably lose to some of the members here who train mma and wouldn't stand a chance against any of the heavier guys in the ufc.

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how can you possibly say he would beat Fedor.. im gonna assume your insane... and im sure Fedor has been in a bunch of street fights.. hes not only russian but he served in the russian army.. thats way more credit then being a dumb weed smoking street fighter... and who needs street fights when your running through pride.. street fighting gives you no advantage when it comes to facing an mma fighter.. them fighting in the street just means he can choke you till your asleep and arm bar you till he rips it off... get off of kimbo's sack hes garbage..

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Kimbo would kill Royce Gracie. Kimbo isnt Kimo.. Royce fought at a time when no one knew how to fight. In early UFC days' date=' Kimbo would have humbled Royce.[/quote']

 

You're saying that before Kimbo nobody knew how to fight?? You are a funny man...

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Just because the rules were more suited for him. He's a street fighter' date=' basically no holds barred fight to death, bar room brawling, which is his bread and butter. With all the rules he's just not the same fighter. He'll be decent but with the way todays rules are, it puts him at a huge disadvantage. He'll never be HW champ.

 

But if we turned the clock back to the old days, same rules, but have the current fighters. Kimbo would tool everyone. Kimbo would kill anyone in a street fight. Fedor, Brock, you name it. I doubt Fedor or Brock have ever been in a street fight, so Kimbo has the experience over that, plus he's been through it, and knows what its like to get hit bare knuckle. And Old school UFC is what that replicated down to the very T.

 

So yes, if this was the old days of UFC, we would see Kimbo dominating.. But since its the unified rules, Kimbo is at a massive disadvantage. Basically taking his weapons away from him, and his backyard. So I think with the way its set up, Kimbo just wont be able to adjust and be champion in todays UFC. The rules dont suit him well, and its hard to adjust when he's been a street fighter his whole life. You guys remember what he did to Tank Abbot right? And that wasnt even a street fight. Imagine what he'd do to Fedor or Brock in a street fight..[/quote']

 

no way... Royce Gracie would kick Kimbos ****..

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kimbo would kill royce gracie. Kimbo isnt kimo.. Royce fought at a time when no one knew how to fight. In early ufc days' date=' kimbo would have humbled royce.[/quote']

 

ahahahahahahaha

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Nah kimbo would have been knocked out first round by a young Tank Abbott and if he would have made it to Royce He would've been schooled the guy couldn't beat Sean Gannon in a street fight come on now.

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Kimbo didnt fight Gannon in the streets, that was basically a MMA fight, where Kimbo had no training. Kimbo in a street fight is murderous. You would not want to see him late at night in a bad part of town, youd watch your back if you did, but you see Brock or Fedor, you wouldnt even care. They know how to fight with rules, without rules Kimbo would be knocking people out left and right.

 

Kimbo has street mentality, and in a street fight, that wins over any kind of MMA training you ever had. Especially when you've been fighting your whole life in the streets. Kimbo is 1 up on everybody in the game. With these rules, he has to adapt to them, Brock and Fedor are used to the rules. They trained with the rules already in place. With Kimbo and rules, you're taking away from his fighting ability. Which gives people in MMA an advantage. But in a street fight those rules fly out the window, and thats where Kimbo would leave just about anybody knocked senseless, except for maybe a prime Mike Tyson.

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Ok maybe we shouldn't rip in to him to much. The kid is probably 13 and watch a lot of u-tub with his friends and think Kimbo is the next coolest thing to Batman.

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Just because the rules were more suited for him. He's a street fighter' date=' basically no holds barred fight to death, bar room brawling, which is his bread and butter. With all the rules he's just not the same fighter. He'll be decent but with the way todays rules are, it puts him at a huge disadvantage. He'll never be HW champ.

 

But if we turned the clock back to the old days, same rules, but have the current fighters. Kimbo would tool everyone. Kimbo would kill anyone in a street fight. Fedor, Brock, you name it. I doubt Fedor or Brock have ever been in a street fight, so Kimbo has the experience over that, plus he's been through it, and knows what its like to get hit bare knuckle. And Old school UFC is what that replicated down to the very T.

 

So yes, if this was the old days of UFC, we would see Kimbo dominating.. But since its the unified rules, Kimbo is at a massive disadvantage. Basically taking his weapons away from him, and his backyard. So I think with the way its set up, Kimbo just wont be able to adjust and be champion in todays UFC. The rules dont suit him well, and its hard to adjust when he's been a street fighter his whole life. You guys remember what he did to Tank Abbot right? And that wasnt even a street fight. Imagine what he'd do to Fedor or Brock in a street fight..[/quote']

 

royce would still tap him

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I dont know if you guys saw it, but he let some guy just as big as him, punch him right in the jaw like 4 or 5 times straight! Kimbo just gave him those free shots. And took them like nothing, like it didnt even phase him. Thats the street mentality Im talking about. Id like to see Fedor or Brock stand there and do that. Kimbo even came back and knocked his eyeball out of its socket.

 

Thats why a street fight with Kimbo is so dangerous. UFC rules limit him, he'll be a good fighter to watch, but its too bad we didnt see him fight back in the early UFC days. Because the rules in place, I dont think we'll ever see him be a HW champ..

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I dont know if you guys saw it' date=' but he let some guy just as big as him, punch him right in the jaw like 4 or 5 times straight! Kimbo just gave him those free shots. And took them like nothing, like it didnt even phase him. Thats the street mentality Im talking about. Id like to see Fedor or Brock stand there and do that. Kimbo even came back and knocked his eyeball out of its socket.

 

Thats why a street fight with Kimbo is so dangerous. UFC rules limit him, he'll be a good fighter to watch, but its too bad we didnt see him fight back in the early UFC days. Because the rules in place, I dont think we'll ever see him be a HW champ..[/quote']

 

What rules limit him? He cried about being kneed by that white guy who beat him.

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Kimbo didnt fight Gannon in the streets' date=' that was basically a MMA fight, where Kimbo had no training. Kimbo in a street fight is murderous. You would not want to see him late at night in a bad part of town, youd watch your back if you did, but you see Brock or Fedor, you wouldnt even care. They know how to fight with rules, without rules Kimbo would be knocking people out left and right.

 

Kimbo has street mentality, and in a street fight, that wins over any kind of MMA training you ever had. Especially when you've been fighting your whole life in the streets. Kimbo is 1 up on everybody in the game. With these rules, he has to adapt to them, Brock and Fedor are used to the rules. They trained with the rules already in place. With Kimbo and rules, you're taking away from his fighting ability. Which gives people in MMA an advantage. But in a street fight those rules fly out the window, and thats where Kimbo would leave just about anybody knocked senseless, except for maybe a prime Mike Tyson.[/quote'] His chin would've been stronger then???????? HAAAAAAA! HAAAAA!

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Just because the rules were more suited for him. He's a street fighter' date=' basically no holds barred fight to death, bar room brawling, which is his bread and butter. With all the rules he's just not the same fighter. He'll be decent but with the way todays rules are, it puts him at a huge disadvantage. He'll never be HW champ.

 

But if we turned the clock back to the old days, same rules, but have the current fighters. Kimbo would tool everyone. Kimbo would kill anyone in a street fight. Fedor, Brock, you name it. I doubt Fedor or Brock have ever been in a street fight, so Kimbo has the experience over that, plus he's been through it, and knows what its like to get hit bare knuckle. And Old school UFC is what that replicated down to the very T.

 

So yes, if this was the old days of UFC, we would see Kimbo dominating.. But since its the unified rules, Kimbo is at a massive disadvantage. Basically taking his weapons away from him, and his backyard. So I think with the way its set up, Kimbo just wont be able to adjust and be champion in todays UFC. The rules dont suit him well, and its hard to adjust when he's been a street fighter his whole life. You guys remember what he did to Tank Abbot right? And that wasnt even a street fight. Imagine what he'd do to Fedor or Brock in a street fight..[/quote']

 

You do Know that kimbo lost a few street fights by KO dont you?, he said it himself, the only ones that were actually shown were ones he won because it was his people posting the videos, and im pretty sure there were kickboxers ect in UFC 1, so they would probably would have had a better striking game then him.

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You know, Fedor got in street fights since he was like 9 years old, then he went into the Russian army which lasts 2 years with, back then, a death rate of 10%.

 

So, please just STFU, and climb back into your momma's belly.

 

Hmm, here's a pretty interesting documentary for anyone who's interested in Fedor. There's a few out there, but I remember enjoying this quite a bit, here's part 1:

 

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i think almost any mma fighter would win if they could go back to UFC 1, gracie took advantage of guys that thought they were in a fight now a bjj match, watchufc 1, those guys didnt know what a submission was they just wanted to throw down and i doubt most of them even trained for the event just thought they were badasses and wanted to win some loot..... IMO

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I dont know if you guys saw it' date=' but he let some guy just as big as him, punch him right in the jaw like 4 or 5 times straight! Kimbo just gave him those free shots. And took them like nothing, like it didnt even phase him. Thats the street mentality Im talking about. Id like to see Fedor or Brock stand there and do that. Kimbo even came back and knocked his eyeball out of its socket.

 

Thats why a street fight with Kimbo is so dangerous. UFC rules limit him, he'll be a good fighter to watch, but its too bad we didnt see him fight back in the early UFC days. Because the rules in place, I dont think we'll ever see him be a HW champ..[/quote']

 

so some big black silverback gorilla hit him in the jaw 4 times and didnt knock him out......so what. petruzzelli knocked him out with a off balance jab......why you ask? cause kimbo is garbage. he would be good in a bar fight or on the street. but even if he ran into mir, lesnar, carwin, gonzaga, crocop, couture, congo, cain, or any other decent heavyweight on the street he would still get his **** kicked. he sucks dude.....get over it.

 

and as far as the old days goes

royce would have submitted him

shamrock woulda tapped him

young tank would knocked his head off

 

he would have been garbage then too

 

he is nothing but a hood rat and the only reason dana has him around is cause he will attract a crowd cause people like you overhype that bum. not gonna lie though, ill be tuning in to watch him "try to fight"

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Any random UFC fighter with todays training would have won UFC 1. Kimbo today has the benifit of 15 years of mixed martial arts evolution in his training right now. I think Kimbo was like 19 on the onset of UFC 1, and if he was a participant back then, he would have been raped tenderly by Royce all night long. If he even got that far.

 

"Street certification" is a joke. Getting into random fights on the street might acclimate you to pain, and maby start working you in the basics of a good chin, but you'll learn absolutely nothing relevant in terms of combat skill. Martial arts have been evoloving for hundreds of generations. What can be taught in a mickey mouse Karate class is more potent than what can be learned by 10 years of street fighting.

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Kimbo didnt fight Gannon in the streets' date=' that was basically a MMA fight, where Kimbo had no training. Kimbo in a street fight is murderous. You would not want to see him late at night in a bad part of town, youd watch your back if you did, but you see Brock or Fedor, you wouldnt even care. They know how to fight with rules, without rules Kimbo would be knocking people out left and right.

 

Kimbo has street mentality, and in a street fight, that wins over any kind of MMA training you ever had. Especially when you've been fighting your whole life in the streets. Kimbo is 1 up on everybody in the game. With these rules, he has to adapt to them, Brock and Fedor are used to the rules. They trained with the rules already in place. With Kimbo and rules, you're taking away from his fighting ability. Which gives people in MMA an advantage. But in a street fight those rules fly out the window, and thats where Kimbo would leave just about anybody knocked senseless, except for maybe a prime Mike Tyson.[/quote']

 

In a street fight kimbo is a fish out of water he has RULES street fighting is rule less Kimbo is no true street fighter lmao ...

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Kimbo didnt fight Gannon in the streets' date=' that was basically a MMA fight, where Kimbo had no training. Kimbo in a street fight is murderous. You would not want to see him late at night in a bad part of town, youd watch your back if you did, but you see Brock or Fedor, you wouldnt even care. They know how to fight with rules, without rules Kimbo would be knocking people out left and right.

 

Kimbo has street mentality, and in a street fight, that wins over any kind of MMA training you ever had. Especially when you've been fighting your whole life in the streets. Kimbo is 1 up on everybody in the game. With these rules, he has to adapt to them, Brock and Fedor are used to the rules. They trained with the rules already in place. With Kimbo and rules, you're taking away from his fighting ability. Which gives people in MMA an advantage. But in a street fight those rules fly out the window, and thats where Kimbo would leave just about anybody knocked senseless, except for maybe a prime Mike Tyson.[/quote']

 

first off why is he a good street fighter.. cuz he knocked out a couple chumps???? second why can he only knock ppl out in the streets??? his punches aren't as hard in the cage cuz the rules only allow you to have minimum torque?? STFU an mma fight is basicaly a street fight with a cage... you can do w/e you want in the cage same goes in the street so what diff is it... even kimbo fought with rules in his lame youtube vids.. the same rules used in UFC except when the guy is giving up they gave em time to recover nah in UFC u keep going till your knocked out or u tap out.. so its even more hardcore in mma.. get the hell out of here with your nonsense.. if kimbo tried to fight any UFC fighter in the street he would get his **** knocked out same way he has been in the cage... you are very ignorant and srry but very stupid if you belive what your saying

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Kimbo didnt fight Gannon in the streets' date=' that was basically a MMA fight, where Kimbo had no training. Kimbo in a street fight is murderous. You would not want to see him late at night in a bad part of town, youd watch your back if you did, but you see Brock or Fedor, you wouldnt even care. They know how to fight with rules, without rules Kimbo would be knocking people out left and right.

 

Kimbo has street mentality, and in a street fight, that wins over any kind of MMA training you ever had. Especially when you've been fighting your whole life in the streets. Kimbo is 1 up on everybody in the game. With these rules, he has to adapt to them, Brock and Fedor are used to the rules. They trained with the rules already in place. With Kimbo and rules, you're taking away from his fighting ability. Which gives people in MMA an advantage. But in a street fight those rules fly out the window, and thats where Kimbo would leave just about anybody knocked senseless, except for maybe a prime Mike Tyson.[/quote']

 

Dude just because it was in a building doesn't mean it wasn't a street fight. I listened to all the audio and they were going by the same rules he always did he just got spanked. Sorry to bust your bubble buddy. And by the way Kimbo's street fights had rules no choking, no hitting a grounded opponent and so on.

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Dude just because it was in a building doesn't mean it wasn't a street fight. I listened to all the audio and they were going by the same rules he always did he just got spanked. Sorry to bust your bubble buddy. And by the way Kimbo's street fights had rules no choking' date=' no hitting a grounded opponent and so on.[/quote']

 

who cares he sucks and woulda got killed back at ufc 1 as well

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Royce Gracie would tap him in matter of minutes at UFC1.

 

Brock and Kimbo street fight? Brock knows how to throw a damn heavy punch. Just ask Heath Herring. Besides, the size advantage Brock would have is ridiculous!

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Royce Gracie would tap him in matter of minutes at UFC1.

 

Brock and Kimbo street fight? Brock knows how to throw a damn heavy punch. Just ask Heath Herring. Besides' date=' the size advantage Brock would have is ridiculous![/quote']

 

Probably quicker than minutes as he has no ground game... I don't really think trying fo rthe ufc was kimbo's best move.

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Probably quicker than minutes as he has no ground game... I don't really think trying fo rthe ufc was kimbo's best move.

 

I agree with you. lol

 

Can't wait to see what Rampage and Rashad do with him on TUF.

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Bas Ruten would be playing hide the hot sauce with Kimbo in seconds if they were in a bar room brawl , like pakal said Kimbo isn't even a street fighter . This was a really funny thread though .

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He wouldnt dominate Royce Gracie? he would get chocked out? TANK ABBOTT was a good street fighter in his prime and Royce Gracie would of submitted him. Fighters were clueless about BJJ back then thats why a 175 pound gracie chocked out 250 pound men with ease.

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Let me tell you something about street fighting, there are no rules and no set circumstances, meaning I could kill Kimbo in a streefight and I probably would, why? Because I would hit first and my strike would be on throat, that or I break a bottle over his head. Seriously, no matter how you twist it and analyze it, streefights can never EVER be the standard for MMA or if a fighter would make it or not. I won tons of fights on the streets, don't ask me who threw first bare knuckle fist, knee to the balls, used weapon or if they or me were drugged or drunk, just saying. *sigh at Kimbo fans, maybe I should make a vid of myself with a baseball bat outside the backdoor of a club, I be hailed to the sky and eter next TUF perhaps.

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Let me tell you something about street fighting' date=' there are no rules and no set circumstances, meaning I could kill Kimbo in a streefight and I probably would, why? Because I would hit first and my strike would be on throat, that or I break a bottle over his head. Seriously, no matter how you twist it and analyze it, streefights can never EVER be the standard for MMA or if a fighter would make it or not. I won tons of fights on the streets, don't ask me who threw first bare knuckle fist, knee to the balls, used weapon or if they or me were drugged or drunk, just saying. *sigh at Kimbo fans, maybe I should make a vid of myself with a baseball bat outside the backdoor of a club, I be hailed to the sky and eter next TUF perhaps.[/quote']

 

Ha:rolleyes:

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Ha:rolleyes:

 

Ha at my streefighting 4realzskills or the fact I think skills can never be measured by a streefight? Not saying he can't or is not a good MMA fighter, but if all I can judge it by thus far is streefighting and set up matches in another ****ty shady organisation then I have to say I think he is not good enough to enter the octagon. Up to him to prove me wrong and everyone else, if you think he already is a champ you are insane, for that matter a meat bag for new fighters in the UFC.

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Ha at my streefighting 4realzskills or the fact I think skills can never be measured by a streefight? Not saying he can't or is not a good MMA fighter' date=' but if all I can judge it by thus far is streefighting and set up matches in another ****ty shady organisation then I have to say I think he is not good enough to enter the octagon. Up to him to prove me wrong and everyone else, if you think he already is a champ you are insane, for that matter a meat bag for new fighters in the UFC.[/quote']

 

Lol i was saying that because you said you would use weapons in a fight.:)

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Lol i was saying that because you said you would use weapons in a fight.:)

 

In a streefight? hell yes I would. Is that unfair? If I start it then yes and illegal and I shoud get fined and sentanced, but if I get attacked on the stree and I can use a weapon then yes I will. I know how it feels to get stomped on the ground, I have never seen a fair streefight in my life either, infact if I had a gun and got jumped I would shoot, thats my legal right if I am not misstaken. But thats a good point isn't it? About how credible a streefighter with wins are!

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