Stripling_Warrior Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Lets say one of your favorite fighters is getting choked out. The choke is in tight. Would you rather see him tap out or man up and refuse to quit but the end you see him unconscious. Would it matter if your fighter was mainly a jiu jitsu guy??? I personally can't stand to see my favorite fighter be unconscious. I would rather than tap out I guess unless the round is in the final seconds and there's a chance he can make it and be saves by the bell then I would rather see him go out trying to hold out till the end of the round. Whats your opinion and thoughts???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 well one of my favorite fighters got out of the rear naked choke (which was very tight) then proceeded to choke out his opponent (matt hughes Frank trigg 2) but i cant really see that happen again so id say tap out cause there is no shame in tapping out to a really tight choke!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockObama Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If his opponent has the choke in tight, there's no way he's getting out of it so he might as well tap and avoid risking an involuntary bowel movement. I could see people making the argument for any other type of sub, but it's not a matter of withstanding the pain and possibly escaping when it comes to chokes. Once the blood stops flowing to your brain you will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanke Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If his opponent has the choke in tight' date=' there's no way he's getting out of it so he might as well tap and avoid risking an involuntary bowel movement. I could see people making the argument for any other type of sub, but it's not a matter of withstanding the pain and possibly escaping when it comes to chokes. Once the blood stops flowing to your brain you will lose.[/quote'] What about a leglock? Do you think fighters should tap for a leglock? I know one ***** that did... Block Lestard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade7 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't think there's any shame at all in tapping, and I'd rather see a fighter tap than risk injury. The only exception might be when a fighter is trying to hold on the last couple of seconds until the end of a round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripling_Warrior Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 What about a leglock? Do you think fighters should tap for a leglock? I know one ***** that did... Block Lestard well I would definitely rather see my fighter tap if its a submission that will cause they to stop training due to a injury like a broken leg or arm or a torn shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelsior Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Why would you risk injury when you are already beat? If someone has got a deep choke, they are not gonna let go because you hold on for 2 more seconds.... And with any type of armlock/leglock, you might as well tap out instead of risking permanent injuries - just beeing out for a year can be damaging enough to your career aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripling_Warrior Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If his opponent has the choke in tight' date=' there's no way he's getting out of it so he might as well tap and avoid risking an involuntary bowel movement..[/quote'] lol that would be kinda funny to see but I wouldn't want to see it happen to my fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmachic1 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I've heard fighters say, "Well, at least I didn't tap." But in the end, you still lost the fight. They're probably trying to save face, but I'd think you'd rather avoid broken limbs. http://galsguidetomma.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewster Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 never be ashamed to tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 never be ashamed to tap. totally agree, tap first ask questions later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Lets say one of your favorite fighters is getting choked out. The choke is in tight. Would you rather see him tap out or man up and refuse to quit but the end you see him unconscious. Would it matter if your fighter was mainly a jiu jitsu guy??? I personally can't stand to see my favorite fighter be unconscious. I would rather than tap out I guess unless the round is in the final seconds and there's a chance he can make it and be saves by the bell then I would rather see him go out trying to hold out till the end of the round. Whats your opinion and thoughts???? you prove nothing by going out. So just tap out because that guy got the better of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipmodollas Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Would rather see a tap, chances are if your in a situation where you feel you need tap and its in tight theres slim chance to none that your gona get out..I agree with jade if its last seconds to the round then try and hold out but if its in deep why risk injury live and fight another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmacbub Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Lets say one of your favorite fighters is getting choked out. The choke is in tight. Would you rather see him tap out or man up and refuse to quit but the end you see him unconscious. Would it matter if your fighter was mainly a jiu jitsu guy??? I personally can't stand to see my favorite fighter be unconscious. I would rather than tap out I guess unless the round is in the final seconds and there's a chance he can make it and be saves by the bell then I would rather see him go out trying to hold out till the end of the round. Whats your opinion and thoughts???? To me it doesnt matter unless like you said the round is almost over. Either way your getting the loss so whats the difference. I guess to a green mma its cooler to see a person go unconscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubird Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If his opponent has the choke in tight' date=' there's no way he's getting out of it so he might as well tap and [b']avoid risking an involuntary bowel movement[/b]. I could see people making the argument for any other type of sub, but it's not a matter of withstanding the pain and possibly escaping when it comes to chokes. Once the blood stops flowing to your brain you will lose. Totally off topic, but do you think this what happened to Forrest after losing conciousness? It could explain why he got the fu*k out of there so quickly. On the other point definatley Tap. There is no point in having unnessecary injuries that could have been avoided by just being less macho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighterangel92 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I would rather see him tap because tapping is better than becoming unconcious (if i spelled that right lol) and just being blacked out, that is too bad for me to witness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigb2181 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Lets say one of your favorite fighters is getting choked out. The choke is in tight. Would you rather see him tap out or man up and refuse to quit but the end you see him unconscious. Would it matter if your fighter was mainly a jiu jitsu guy??? I personally can't stand to see my favorite fighter be unconscious. I would rather than tap out I guess unless the round is in the final seconds and there's a chance he can make it and be saves by the bell then I would rather see him go out trying to hold out till the end of the round. Whats your opinion and thoughts???? To each his own. You are no less of a man if you tap or not. Some people care more about body than others. When I was training BJJ I never used to tap I used black out. Not tapping for nobody. You better break it or put me to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tool46ntwo Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 It's human nature to tap, as much as you say you would never tap. When you are loosing blood flow to your brain and running out of oxygen your body and brain does what ever it can to live. And if you know you can tap to save yourself you?re going to. The people who didn't tap did not do so because they were "manning up" it was because they waited just a bit too long then didn't have the mental ability to do so. I don't know if any of you have been choked out but it was a game we used to play with each other in high school. At anytime someone could sneak up behind you and put a sleeper on ya (wasn't the smartest game, but it was only played with people who agreed they were in). I've done it many times and had it done to me once, it sucks and you fight it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 When you know there is no escape and your experienced enough to know it's over, TAP. Sometimes it can be a little premature ie: (Hughes/GSP UFC 50 @ 4:59 of round 1). If your aware of the clock and your locked in, tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bright508620 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 you guys are all dissing GSP!! he tapped with 1 second left in the round vs hughes...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Anesthetic Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 never be ashamed to tap. I'm glad Jesus didn't tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wing_chun Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Tap out for sure, chokes are really dangerous and the guys competing would know that, a few years back a guy was put in a choke hold at a club in town, the security guy was amatuer and didn't let go after he went out. Unfortunately the guy who was choked went into a coma and later died in hospital. Scary stuff go with the tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterTrep Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 lol @ "man up and pass out" Tapping is a sign of intelligence imho real man knows his limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 you guys are all dissing GSP!! he tapped with 1 second left in the round vs hughes...lol Goes to show even the greatest when inexperienced and nervous can make mistakes. The biggest fight of his life against one of his idols. Guess he made up for that one huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Doesn't make a difference to me. If they think blacking out makes them look more like a man, then so be it. But this is a sport, not a blood hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripling_Warrior Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Tap out for sure' date=' chokes are really dangerous and the guys competing would know that, a few years back a guy was put in a choke hold at a club in town, the security guy was amatuer and didn't let go after he went out. Unfortunately the guy who was choked went into a coma and later died in hospital. Scary stuff go with the tap[/quote'] wow I wonder how long he held the choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripling_Warrior Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't know if any of you have been choked out but it was a game we used to play with each other in high school. At anytime someone could sneak up behind you and put a sleeper on ya (wasn't the smartest game' date=' but it was only played with people who agreed they were in). I've done it many times and had it done to me once, it sucks and you fight it.[/quote'] I do bjj so I get choked on a regular basis but I've never blacked out yet. Never saw a point on not tapping during practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMindTricks Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'd rather see fighters tap than lie there or passed out, or with a broken arm/busted knee. Guys like Tim Sylvia saying his arm isn't broken right after it snapped in 3 places, CB Dollaway saying he didn't tap, or Royce just lying there waiting for his arm to snap in half is just false bravado and doesn't show anything except that they're not man enough to admit defeat, but they're man/stupid enough to get injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmachic1 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Totally off topic' date=' but do you think this what happened to Forrest after losing conciousness? It could explain why he got the fu*k out of there so quickly.[/quote'] I don't think Forrest actually lost conciousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapNTickle Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Id tap unless it was close to the end of the round then id try to hold out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBringer Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 It's always better to tap out and fight 4 months later instead of 15 months because of injury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWT Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 wow I wonder how long he held the choke. If i've heard right, the difference can be seconds after blood stops flowing to the brain. Like damage begins very soon and the longer you hold ... i've also heard of like shock, say if your not used to fighting and you lock on a choke. The attacker may either not be able to tell the signs of somebody going unconsciouss or be panicked incase the fight is not over so they hold on to the choke. Like panic. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyT1222 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I would rather see my fighter tap. Whether it's a choke, arm bar, leg lock, whatever. I've seen fighters get an arm broken. I always want to ask them "how does that feel ya dummie?" "do ya feel like a man now?" "enjoy your vacation while you recover" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbaslam Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I will and have gone out to a choke, it's just a short nap after all, till you actually go out you never know what that is like so at least once in your life let the darkness come. Far as the ****eing your self goes I have never seen that happen personally and I have seen probably 300 chokes go to the finish and no one has ever done that, not saying it's not possible just that it is unlikely in my experience. With joints it's a different story, if I KNOW I have no chance of escaping or reversing the situation I will tap for sure. A choke is one thing but a joint injury is possibly lots of lost time or even end of career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechemicals Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I really dont care honestly. They do look stupid when they are out but My favorite fighters have been thru worse so it just doesnt matter. I just want to see warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 there have been a couple fights where i feel somebody taps a little too early, but then thinking about it.......when someones got a deep choke on you, especially guys with experience, they know they are done for so whats the point of hanging on a bit longer. Tap......unless you can make it to the next round http://bumpyknuckle.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmapsycho Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'd say tap. Nothing would be worse than being out for a while with broken bones or torn ligaments. Nor would it be good if you kept doing it every time you were in a submission by rear naked choke or guillatein(sp) and kept losing brain cells from loss of oxygen and blood to the brain. Rather not see mma guys walking around like old boxers who took too many KO's. just mho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujitsWho Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I don't think there's any shame at all in tapping' date=' and I'd rather see a fighter tap than risk injury. The only exception might be when a fighter is trying to hold on the last couple of seconds until the end of a round.[/quote'] Totally agree with my VP on this one. In BJJ, you learn to hang on as long as possible and try to improve, but there comes a time when your just not going to get out and you tap. There is nothing even close to smart or tough about not tapping and getting your arm, knee or ankle snapped or going unconcious. Its just pride and being flat out stupid that keeps people from tapping. If you stay in a hold and get hurt.....YOU STILL LOSE!!!! Now you have to rehab your injury before you can even train for you next fight. Its flat out dumb not to tap when there is no escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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