guti Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I guess its save to stop speculation... Like so many in here said already GSP is too small to fight silva... Dana finally confirmed and fight wont happen http://mmawaves.com/2009/08/26/video-dana-white-talks-ufc-102-and-more/ skips to the last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneKnight Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This wasnt about Dana, this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I guess its save to stop speculation... Like so many in here said already GSP is too small to fight silva... Dana finally confirmed and fight wont happen http://mmawaves.com/2009/08/26/video-dana-white-talks-ufc-102-and-more/ skips to the last minute Still didn't say it wouldn't happen, just that at 205 Silva is too big for GSP, It would be a middleweight fight not a fight where Silva can weigh 230-235 lbs. He made a comment that doesnt address the weight the fight would take place at, only the beast Silva is at 205 and I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapNTickle Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I love how people thought a MW who is beating the ever living **** out of LWHs is going to really get put up against a guy in a lower weight class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfitz07 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] I like how you mock GSP for getting knocked out by "155" pounder Matt Serra, yes he has fought there before but that is like saying Kenny Florian is a 185er. And how about mentioning how Anderson got dominated by a 170lb fighter? Yes he's a different fighter now but so is GSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I love how people thought a MW who is beating the ever living **** out of LWHs is going to really get put up against a guy in a lower weight class Not a guy, GSP and not a lower weight class, at middleweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Still didn't say it wouldn't happen' date=' just that at 205 Silva is too big for GSP, It would be a middleweight fight not a fight where Silva can weigh 230-235 lbs. He made a comment that doesnt address the weight the fight would take place at, only the beast Silva is at 205 and I agree with that.[/quote'] wake up dude !!! dana said silva is too big for gsp period .... forget about weight classes ... Dana is talking about silva fighting guys above his weight class , why the hell would silva fight someone in a lower class levels if he is destroying people at 205 and dana even wants him to fight couture... If gsp wants to earn a shot at silva he has to step a weight class higher and fight against someone like hendo , frankling , wandy even freaking bisping and prove that he is not too small to move up... I strongly believe gsp wants nothing to do with silva or middleweight class , very smart move from his part , GSP knows he is a little too small to fight there ... WW and even light weight are the only two classes gsp should be fighting at if he wants to keep his legacy ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_BOXER Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I knew this wouldnt happen once GSP said it would take him a year to gain the weight. I dont think he should move up anyway, GSP has nothing to prove...hes great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I knew this wouldnt happen once GSP said it would take him a year to gain the weight.I dont think he should move up anyway' date=' GSP has nothing to prove...hes great.[/quote'] agree , he is the best ww in the world and he should not jeopardize his legacy because some fans think he can take much bigger guys... GSP should go down in history as the greatest ww in the UFC ... BJ penn already made the mistake of fighting a much bigger guy and he kind of ruined his reputation , GSP should learn from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujitsWho Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] You can't really think this can you? GSP would run from no one and quite honestly I feel GSP is a better all around fighter and would beat Anderson Silva. Silva is great no doubt, but he can be beat and it will take a good wrestler to do it. I think Hendo has a good shot in the rematch as well. It you make Anderson fight your fight instead of his, he gets frustrated and makes mistakes. Lutter would have beaten him had he not been in such crappy shape....and he STILL almost caught him in that arm-bar and GnPed him as well. GSP is lightyears ahead of Lutter and Hendo IMHO and would take Silva down at will. Not only that, once he is down there, hes not going to get cought in a sub anywhere near as easily as Hendo did. Bottom line is that GSP has all the tools needed to beat Anderson Silva and the drive to use them. If this fight doesn't happen, it won't be because he's scared.....trust me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 You can't really think this can you? GSP would run from no one and quite honestly I feel GSP is a better all around fighter and would beat Anderson Silva. Silva is great no doubt' date=' but he can be beat and it will take a good wrestler to do it. I think Hendo has a good shot in the rematch as well. It you make Anderson fight your fight instead of his, he gets frustrated and makes mistakes. Lutter would have beaten him had he not been in such crappy shape....and he STILL almost caught him in that arm-bar and GnPed him as well. GSP is lightyears ahead of Lutter and Hendo IMHO and would take Silva down at will. Not only that, once he is down there, hes not going to get cought in a sub anywhere near as easily as Hendo did. Bottom line is that GSP has all the tools needed to beat Anderson Silva and the drive to use them. If this fight doesn't happen, it won't be because he's scared.....trust me![/quote'] how come gsp always dodges the question , would you like to fight silva??? ... I dont think he is scare , i just think he knows this is not a fair match ... Like you said he is a smart fighter who knows his limits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujitsWho Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 how come gsp always dodges the question ' date=' would you like to fight silva??? ... I dont think he is scare , i just think he knows this is not a fair match ... Like you said he is a smart fighter who knows his limits...[/quote'] He dodges the question because he's not going to call the dude out. If DW makes it happen, GSP would be all about it. And think about this...GSP is HUGE for a WW (only Alves is bigger) when he hit the ring against Alves GSP was easy 180. He could fight at MW, but GSP wants to fight for a long time. Cutting weight can be tough on the body, as well as gaining weight. He can do it though, and do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 He dodges the question because he's not going to call the dude out. If DW makes it happen' date=' GSP would be all about it. And think about this...GSP is HUGE for a WW (only Alves is bigger) when he hit the ring against Alves GSP was easy 180. He could fight at MW, but GSP wants to fight for a long time. Cutting weight can be tough on the body, as well as gaining weight. He can do it though, and do it right.[/quote'] I agree but remember most of the MW are at least 195-200 pounds comes fight date.. Most of the MW can actually fight lightheavyweight ( henderson , bisping , franklin , wandy , silva, etc).... GSP is not huge for WW , he is just perfect for that weighclass .... GSP can come to the ring on fight date weighing 180-185 pounds but he is going to be facing fighters comming at 190-200-210 pounds... If anything i can see gsp maybe dropping down to 155 ... I always think of it this way fighters can jump back and forward between lightweight and welterweight ( most of the fighters) fighters can jump back and forward between middleweight and lightheavyweight (most of them) I can not see anyone in the WW jumping up to middleweight and be a powerhouse there... Im sure gsp can beat a lot of the MW but i highly doubt he can beat the big guys , the ones that can easily fight ( some are actually fighting)at LHW ( henderson , wandy , silva , franklin ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] STFU FOR ONCE!!!! No self respecting fighter would actually ask out of a fight!!! If you knew anything you'd know that GSP would jump at the chance to fight anyone. He is proud of what he's accomplished and only wishes to further his legacy by beating anyone in his path. You can't really think this can you? GSP would run from no one and quite honestly I feel GSP is a better all around fighter and would beat Anderson Silva. Silva is great no doubt' date=' but he can be beat and it will take a good wrestler to do it. I think Hendo has a good shot in the rematch as well. It you make Anderson fight your fight instead of his, he gets frustrated and makes mistakes. Lutter would have beaten him had he not been in such crappy shape....and he STILL almost caught him in that arm-bar and GnPed him as well. GSP is lightyears ahead of Lutter and Hendo IMHO and would take Silva down at will. Not only that, once he is down there, hes not going to get cought in a sub anywhere near as easily as Hendo did. Bottom line is that GSP has all the tools needed to beat Anderson Silva and the drive to use them. If this fight doesn't happen, it won't be because he's scared.....trust me![/quote'] Thank You. You saved me a lot more typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujitsWho Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I agree but remember most of the MW are at least 195-200 pounds comes fight date.. Most of the MW can actually fight lightheavyweight ( henderson ' date=' bisping , franklin , wandy , silva, etc).... GSP is not huge for WW , he is just perfect for that weighclass .... GSP can come to the ring on fight date weighing 180-185 pounds but he is going to be facing fighters comming at 190-200-210 pounds... If anything i can see gsp maybe dropping down to 155 ... I always think of it this way fighters can jump back and forward between lightweight and welterweight ( most of the fighters) fighters can jump back and forward between middleweight and lightheavyweight (most of them) I can not see anyone in the WW jumping up to middleweight and be a powerhouse there... Im sure gsp can beat a lot of the MW but i highly doubt he can beat the big guys , the ones that can easily fight ( some are actually fighting)at LHW ( henderson , wandy , silva , franklin )[/quote'] I think that given half a year to put on weight slowly and build the muscle he would be just fine. Its not like Silva a some Beefcake anyway. Hes tall and has very good power, but he's not like a Nate Marquardt or something. GSP given the time would be fine for that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorp4pking Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] how bout silva drop to 170!!!!! hes fought at 170 before so whats the big deal.. GSP is about what 5.11?? and hes a BIG welterweight.. hows he gonna pack more muscle onto to his already big frame to get to around 200 lbs... hes not a body builder hes a fighter... would be to slow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I think that given half a year to put on weight slowly and build the muscle he would be just fine. Its not like Silva a some Beefcake anyway. Hes tall and has very good power' date=' but he's not like a Nate Marquardt or something. GSP given the time would be fine for that fight.[/quote'] i still think he would have a big disadvantage when it comes to size... However i do agree with you that with some time to train gsp may be able to put the weight .... Also i wouldnt like to see gsp getting a fight against silva as his first mw fight... If anything gsp will have to prove that he can handle fighters in the mw class.. Someone like bisping or leben or even kendall groove could be a good warm up match ... Before he fights silva he has to fight someone like frankling , maia , henderson .... Anyways i dont think dana wants gsp to fight silva and he said it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 how bout silva drop to 170!!!!! hes fought at 170 before so whats the big deal.. GSP is about what 5.11?? and hes a BIG welterweight.. hows he gonna pack more muscle onto to his already big frame to get to around 200 lbs... hes not a body builder hes a fighter... would be to slow.. gsp is only 5 10 ( 178 cm) , anderson silva is 6 2 ( 188 cm).... When it comes to fighters at this level that can make a big difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorp4pking Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 ''rate these fighters 1-5... 5 being the highest.. on how bad you want them in the UFC... Mousasi?'' DW: 7!! im glad he really wants em cause i know we all do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorp4pking Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 gsp is only 5 10 ( 178 cm) ' date=' anderson silva is 6 2 ( 188 cm).... When it comes to fighters at this level that can make a big difference...[/quote'] thank you for the clarification.. so yeah hes 5.10!!!! how would he fight a guy who walks around as a HW.. this was a dream fight but was farfetched from the start.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HULK3686 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 your absolutley right man. gsp should just protect his legacy, and i believe silva would easily knock him out, gsp wont know what to do when silva got that muay thai clinch on him delivering knees to his head! i like how dana white is so confident he can get silva and machida in the octagon together i would love to see that. and i pick silva to win via knock out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junbo79 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This is a very in depth interview. Rare to see this long of a one on one interview from White. In the video he discusses: - State sanctionings - Desire to fight in Fenway Park more as a one off thing as too big = loss of atmosphere. - Talks about weight classes and no desire for new weight classes in ufc - Does discuss opening smaller weight classes in WEC as they transition to Mexico - His thoughts on friends fighting - He still very much wants the Silva vs Machida while dismissing Silva vs GSP for reasons already said - Questioned if he feels fighters may sacrifice winning game plan over entertainment - On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being lowest his desire for Aoki, Sakurai, Mousasi (he gave a 7 here), Henson, Alverez - When asked about Lil N O G on that scale, confirmed they did a deal with him - Confirms talk about Silva vs Lesnar (just that it has been thrown up in the air along with Silva fighting a slew of other opponents, no serious move..............yet.) Really worth it to watch this interview. Tons discussed for the MMA nerd in all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrisville Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] that could be the funniest things ive ever read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfan1406050881 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 GSP should stay at 170. The best 185 lb fighters are really LHW who can easily fight at 205. Guys like W. Silva, A. Silva, Henderson, and Franklin have to cut weight to make 205. GSP is a great fighter and I'm not a GSP hater but I think at 185 he would get beat by not only A. Silva but by Maia, Henderson, Wandy, Franklin, and Marquardt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Brown_Joby Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 GSP has nothing to prove. he will just get slapped back down to WW Its hard talking to GSP fans on here cause they are blinded by the fact he rules at WW. He will come across a bigger hitter in MW and that would be fun to watch. Whats the point doing it though. if he is saying its gonna take a year to gain the 'bulk' to fight in MM......is he gonna drop it to defend his WW crown then take ages to gain again? or is it supposed to be a perm move to MW I hope he does go to MW....be fun to watch. his last 2 fights were boring for me to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmdsounddotcom Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Awesome video thanks a lot man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikaruz Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 agree ' date=' he is the best ww in the world and he should not jeopardize his legacy because some fans think he can take much bigger guys... GSP should go down in history as the greatest ww in the UFC ... BJ penn already made the mistake of fighting a much bigger guy and he kind of ruined his reputation , GSP should learn from that[/quote'] OMFG..... much respect dude , Your comments are the sanest on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBJJ Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Still didn't say it wouldn't happen' date=' just that at 205 Silva is too big for GSP, It would be a middleweight fight not a fight where Silva can weigh 230-235 lbs. He made a comment that doesnt address the weight the fight would take place at, only the beast Silva is at 205 and I agree with that.[/quote'] no. he said that after seeing how domminant silva was at 205 he realized that silva is too big for GSP. it was never an issue of "oh well GSP will just bump up to 205 fo the fight" thats rediculous. dana now realizes that since silva can be so domminant at a weight class that was once thought to be too big for him a fight against a naturally smaller fighter would be a **** show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBJJ Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Not a guy' date=' GSP and not a lower weight class, at middleweight.[/quote'] to clarify.... a fighter canfight in multiple weight classes, but he usually has 1 natural optimum weight. and since silvas apparantly can be equally domminant at 205 a GSP fight would be very unfair. why not get fitch to fight lyoto? they can meet at middle weight. why? because it would be a **** show where the lighter fighter has to scramble to make weight and the heavier fighter cuts then adds 20lbs after the weight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
720fighter Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You can't really think this can you? GSP would run from no one and quite honestly I feel GSP is a better all around fighter and would beat Anderson Silva. Silva is great no doubt' date=' but he can be beat and it will take a good wrestler to do it. I think Hendo has a good shot in the rematch as well. It you make Anderson fight your fight instead of his, he gets frustrated and makes mistakes. Lutter would have beaten him had he not been in such crappy shape....and he STILL almost caught him in that arm-bar and GnPed him as well. GSP is lightyears ahead of Lutter and Hendo IMHO and would take Silva down at will. Not only that, once he is down there, hes not going to get cought in a sub anywhere near as easily as Hendo did. Bottom line is that GSP has all the tools needed to beat Anderson Silva and the drive to use them. If this fight doesn't happen, it won't be because he's scared.....trust me![/quote'] how is gsp lightyears ahead hendo? hendo has accomplished a lot more than gsp. he's held two pride titles at the same time and two time olympic wrestler. gsp might have a more versatile stand up but hendo seems to do just fine with his. i think hendo would put up a better fight than gsp against silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
720fighter Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 doesn't make much sense really. silva was asked to go up in weight because he was so dominant. now that gsp is dominant, they tell him, "its ok georges, u can stay a ww as long as u want" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] you are a stupid knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Brown_Joby Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 no.he said that after seeing how domminant silva was at 205 he realized that silva is too big for GSP. it was never an issue of "oh well GSP will just bump up to 205 fo the fight" thats rediculous. dana now realizes that since silva can be so domminant at a weight class that was once thought to be too big for him a fight against a naturally smaller fighter would be a **** show. spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Bmoney Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I like how you mock GSP for getting knocked out by "155" pounder Matt Serra' date=' yes he has fought there before but that is like saying Kenny Florian is a 185er. And how about mentioning how Anderson got dominated by a 170lb fighter? Yes he's a different fighter now but so is GSP.[/quote'] i agree 100% with the different figher scenario. I think that GSP is the best pound for pound fighter in the world...look what he did to thiago alves. But since it was a "BORING" fight in some people's eyes, he never got the credit he deserved for controlling a guy who walks around as big as rampage and evans. This fight will happen if GSP is givin enough time to prepare for the fight....which may mean no welterweight title fight for months. Who is really left though after swick and kampmann??? (Neither of which could beat GSP.) I quote GSP saying, "Skill and Technique beat Size and Strength all the time". I would LOVE to see that fight though!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop3r1 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] GSP sucksss!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenlonbjj Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Silva is too much a monster for GSP. What GSP did to Penn is what Silva will do to GSP but in a far worse more dominating factor. I think they should bring in Jake Shields for GSP, hope that Vitor is the same old Vitor and hopefully get a challenge at Silva, that or Wanderlia step up and earn a title shot against him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Bmoney Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Why does Arcane-us Knight have so many stupid posts anyway? like your a real fighter...get a job and girlfriend so i can come take them from you....sally!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhet Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Dana wouldn't like GSP to lose because he wants to make him the face of the UFC. BJ Penn had no problem fighting GSP, and he's smaller than GSP the same way GSP is smaller than Silva. But GSP only likes to fight smaller guys than him. He's a coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellepelle Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 gsp is only 5 10 ( 178 cm) ' date=' anderson silva is 6 2 ( 188 cm).... When it comes to fighters at this level that can make a big difference...[/quote'] yes but its only 10 cm that should not be a problem.... Yoshihiro Akiyama H 5?10 (178 cm) W185 (84kg) Kendall Grove H 6?6 (198 cm) W185 (84kg) 20 cm =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtp Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Im glad GSP wont fight A. Silva. There a lot of WW out there that pose a threat. The WW division is (in my opinion) the most stacked division in the UFC. With guys comming up like Swick, Rumble Johnson, Kampman, why leave your division to fight somewhere else? I agree with Silva changing wieght classes because there really isnt anybody that gave him hell @185. Other than him, I dont like guys moving around... except Couture cuz he is awsome. But guys like BJ, Sanchez, Vera should not. Its cool we wont see that fight because it would really be a lose lose situation for both guys. In my opinion. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Bmoney Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Im glad GSP wont fight A. Silva. There a lot of WW out there that pose a threat. The WW division is (in my opinion) the most stacked division in the UFC. With guys comming up like Swick' date=' Rumble Johnson, Kampman, why leave your division to fight somewhere else? I agree with Silva changing wieght classes because there really isnt anybody that gave him hell @185. Other than him, I dont like guys moving around... except Couture cuz he is awsome. But guys like BJ, Sanchez, Vera should not. Its cool we wont see that fight because it would really be a lose lose situation for both guys. In my opinion. Just sayin.[/quote'] Wow!!! thanks for the reminder on Rumble. Dude would give GSP a run. more so i think than kampmann or swick. I just have a hard time getting out of my head how badly GSP domintated alves. And let's not forget that GSP Knocked alves down a couple of times with punches while alves had NO takedowns. For people to say that silva would run over GSP are obviously the one's who don't want to see their boy get out wrestled for 15 minutes. I guess we'll just have to see if a more conditioned Hendo gives Silva a run for that belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuddawg Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 i dont know if i agree with dana, i think gsp could hold his own against silva.Gsp spars with bigger guys and wrestles bigger guys every day so he could definetly hang with him. But who knows. Gsp get ur **** up to middleweight and we'll see the outcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 i dont know if i agree with dana' date=' i think gsp could hold his own against silva.Gsp spars with bigger guys and wrestles bigger guys every day so he could definetly hang with him. But who knows. Gsp get ur **** up to middleweight and we'll see the outcome![/quote'] gsp wrestles and practices with rasha and rasha got dominated by machida who practices with anderson silva... Alves is not that big of a guy ,, the man is only like 5 8 " he is even shorter than gsp ...Sure he has a lot of muscle but he is not big as anderson , not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmacbub Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 gsp wrestles and practices with rasha and rasha got dominated by machida who practices with anderson silva... Alves is not that big of a guy ' date=', the man is only like 5 8 " he is even shorter than gsp ...Sure he has a lot of muscle but he is not big as anderson , not even close[/quote'] He may not be a big guy but for his class he is big as f uck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 to clarify.... a fighter canfight in multiple weight classes' date=' but he usually has 1 natural optimum weight. and since silvas apparantly can be equally domminant at 205 a GSP fight would be very unfair. why not get fitch to fight lyoto? they can meet at middle weight. why? because it would be a **** show where the lighter fighter has to scramble to make weight and the heavier fighter cuts then adds 20lbs after the weight in.[/quote'] Ok. I'm not sure what your not understanding here but it's not rocket science. GSP can easily pack on 15-20lbs of muscle making him 200-205 lbs fight weight. Anderson Silva has fought mostly at middleweight weighing 200-205 lbs on fight night. Of course Silva looks bigger fighting at 205, weighing 230-235lbs. Silva looks no where near as intimidating at mw whereas GSP with an additional 15lbs of muscle would look like a beast. Just a note, GSP fought mw before joining the UFC. GSP is 5'10 1/2" tall, not short by any standards and could handle the extra weight with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 no.he said that after seeing how domminant silva was at 205 he realized that silva is too big for GSP. it was never an issue of "oh well GSP will just bump up to 205 fo the fight" thats rediculous. dana now realizes that since silva can be so domminant at a weight class that was once thought to be too big for him a fight against a naturally smaller fighter would be a **** show. No? I didnt quote Dana. I made it clear Dana was speaking about Silva as a lhw and how big he looked. The size was never an issue when Silva was at mw, now the last image people see, Silva weighing 235lbs, is what they remember. Put 15-20 lbs of meat on GSP, bring Silva back to mw size and lets have a look. Guarantee peoples tunes would change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 gsp wrestles and practices with rasha and rasha got dominated by machida who practices with anderson silva... Alves is not that big of a guy ' date=', the man is only like 5 8 " he is even shorter than gsp ...Sure he has a lot of muscle but he is not big as anderson , not even close[/quote'] You must clarify big. Alves is close to 200lbs when he fights at ww, that's big. You seem to contradict yourself. Are you talking weight, height or both? If it's height, then I guess Swick will destroy GSP. If it's weight, then you need to consider Silva and GSP will weigh the same for a fight and with GSP's shorter stature he will look like a ripped gorilla compared to a lanky Silva at the same weight. Their reach is virtually the same. Also keep in mind the fact that Evans ( and Hendo) decided to stand with Silva, not wrestle him. A mistake GSP would not make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Brown_Joby Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 = GSP is 5'10 1/2" tall,. get that extra half inch in fred lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuddawg Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 gsp wrestles and practices with rasha and rasha got dominated by machida who practices with anderson silva... Alves is not that big of a guy ' date=', the man is only like 5 8 " he is even shorter than gsp ...Sure he has a lot of muscle but he is not big as anderson , not even close[/quote'] WHAT??? he's 5'8?? dont think so..gsp is 5'10. Anyway, height has nothing to do with how good you are. And your comparing Gsp to rashad??? wtf?? When is the last time you heard someone say Rashad is one of the best fighters in the world? All im saying is if Gsp put on a few more pounds and moved up to middleweight i think it would be a good fight. Gsp walks around about between 185 - 195 lbs before he cuts for a fight, so size wouldnt be an issue. and it wouldnt matter if your as good as Gsp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 This wasnt about Dana' date=' this was protecting GSP from Anderson Silva. I already know GSP called up Dana after the Forrest fight. "Dana, please dont make me fighter Anderson Silva, a 155 poun'er knock me out, for I do not want to have career end by Anderson. I am very impress by his performance, knockout o Forrest." Let's face it.. GSP wanted no part of Anderson Silva and had Dana White cover for him.. Im about to expose this kids entire career.. He better demand this fight. You know if GSP wanted it, Dana would make it happen. Its obvious GSP wants nothing to do with this fight.[/quote'] You should stop lie to yourself is not good for u . I fallow gsp career from the begins , he already say in like 3 interview in Quebec (in the french presse) I will fight him but on the right time to not interfere with a friend who try to do a title shoot , and i will need a huge amount of $$$ even if i lost cause there is many fighter who get huge injury by jumping weight class.) Be smart when u talk about a smart fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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