ruuddawg Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dana White said in his interview that when he says Anderson Silva is the best pound for pound fighter in the world, he means hes the best all around fighter in the world, that nobody is better than him that do profesional sports...boxing, tae kwan do, karate etc etc.... do you agree?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdcan1406050570 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dana White said in his interview that when he says Anderson Silva is the best pound for pound fighter in the world' date=' he means hes the best all around fighter in the world, that nobody is better than him that do profesional sports...boxing, tae kwan do, karate etc etc.... do you agree??[/quote'] I think he is referring to MMA...no holds barred. There are likely champions in other sports that are more dominant in their sport, but not in the Cage under MMA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyTuppence Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I think he is referring to MMA...no holds barred. There are likely champions in other sports that are more dominant in their sport' date=' but not in the Cage under MMA rules.[/quote'] Correct, hes not saying he could go into other combat sports and defeat them at there own game, basically hes saying if all fighting styles where allowed (MMA) silva would beat anybody in the world, I would have to agree with the exeption of maybe Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchdrunk69 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dana White said in his interview that when he says Anderson Silva is the best pound for pound fighter in the world' date=' he means hes the best all around fighter in the world, that nobody is better than him that do profesional sports...boxing, tae kwan do, karate etc etc.... do you agree??[/quote'] yes and no yes he is middleweight champ beat forest bad and on about moving to heavywight the man is gifted no doubt but to me to be the greatest you have to fight the very best win convincinly and remain undeafted, or if you lose come back from those defeats avenge them and get stronger and better because of this. i personally think gsp is the best fighter in the world and would love to see these two fight but i think silva would have too much of a wight advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 yes and no yes he is middleweight champ beat forest bad and on about moving to heavywight the man is gifted no doubt but to me to be the greatest you have to fight the very best win convincinly and remain undeafted' date=' or if you lose come back from those defeats avenge them and get stronger and better because of this. i personally think gsp is the best fighter in the world and would love to see these two fight but i think silva would have too much of a wight advantage.[/quote'] So he hasn't been convincing in his wins? He hasn't remained undefeated in the octagon? And GSP is a better fighter because he lost a few times and had to come back from them (hughes and serra)? Pretty poor argument dude. I have to say I can definitely see why Dana said this beacause no one has the combination of skills Silve has, but it'd be impossible to ever know. My opinion would be the same as Dana's though. If you are talking about multiple style (or MMA, as its called lol), then Silve is tops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipmodollas Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 in MMA in a cage yeah I think he's the best and 1 or 2 PfP fighters but Boxing or ju jitsu any ground compition I don't know but I agree with what was said earlier he's top in MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 He's basically saying Anderson is the most complete and gifted all around fighter in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 He's basically saying Anderson is the most complete and gifted all around fighter in the world. exactly. don't read further into the comments than you need too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchdrunk69 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 So he hasn't been convincing in his wins? He hasn't remained undefeated in the octagon? And GSP is a better fighter because he lost a few times and had to come back from them (hughes and serra)? Pretty poor argument dude. I have to say I can definitely see why Dana said this beacause no one has the combination of skills Silve has' date=' but it'd be impossible to ever know. My opinion would be the same as Dana's though. If you are talking about multiple style (or MMA, as its called lol), then Silve is tops...[/quote'] was he convincing against henderson has he avenged the loses on his record? gsp lost and learnt from those loses and came back stronger! lets see silva fight machida then if he beats him i will be the first to say wow he is not only the best in the world today but the best ever period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny123 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 was he convincing against henderson has he avenged the loses on his record?gsp lost and learnt from those loses and came back stronger! lets see silva fight machida then if he beats him i will be the first to say wow he is not only the best in the world today but the best ever period yeah but gsp hasnt fought in 2 weight classes and still dominated, and while gsp did lose and learn from his losses, he still did get owned by serra, no one in the cage has even come close to finishing silva other than henerson who ended up getting owned in the 2nd rd. and the only reason he hasnt avenged those losses is he isnt able to fight them now, we need to see gsp come up to 185 and dominate someone like hendo or marquardt as silva did griffin then there can be an argument as to whether gsp is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 He's basically saying Anderson is the most complete and gifted all around fighter in the world. was he convincing against henderson has he avenged the loses on his record?gsp lost and learnt from those loses and came back stronger! lets see silva fight machida then if he beats him i will be the first to say wow he is not only the best in the world today but the best ever period He lost one round against Hendo, learnt from that b4 the fight even ended, and proceeded to KO his ****. Its not a bad thing to not have a loss to learn from, cuz that means you make your adjustments during the fight instead of after it. Thats extreme talent and intelligence. And as evasive and dull as the fight would probably be (even though it won't happen) I think Silva would come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighterangel92 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 no :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhatend Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 He lost one round against Hendo' date=' learnt from that b4 the fight even ended, and proceeded to KO his ****. Its not a bad thing to not have a loss to learn from, cuz that means you make your adjustments during the fight instead of after it. Thats extreme talent and intelligence. And as evasive and dull as the fight would probably be (even though it won't happen) I think Silva would come out on top.[/quote'] If by KO you mean choke. But aside from that you make good points with the mid-fight adjustments. We saw in the recent light weight title fight when your one-track strategy (KenFlo) is failing you it's only a matter of time until you are defeated. Silva is impressive with his mid-fight adjustments. Specifically in the Henderson fight and even before that in the Lutter fight. Talent, intelligence, power, complete, and continually fighting top contenders and making them look like novices in the process: yup I can go along with best pound-for-pound in MMA right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_Fears Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 G.S.P is a good ww and if he did move up 2 mw he would get hurt bad.. If he face hendo he would get ko'd or even G&P .. I just dont see GSP taking hendo down or knocking him out.. GSP should stay where he is as the best ww of all time.. Anderson Silva is the p4p king and he has prove it time and time by beating people in 2 diffrent weight classes pretty easy as for gsp he has to go 5 rounds for anyone he fights.. I just think gsp vs anderson will be bad news .. think about when bj vs gsp . Kinda the same thing its to much for gsp . Truth is GSP knows it thats why he will stay where he is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStandard Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 who knows if he's the best, im sure there are some awesome fighters out there waiting to be found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remedx Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 either way he's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roth89 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 yes and no yes he is middleweight champ beat forest bad and on about moving to heavywight the man is gifted no doubt but to me to be the greatest you have to fight the very best win convincinly and remain undeafted' date=' or if you lose come back from those defeats avenge them and get stronger and better because of this. i personally think gsp is the best fighter in the world and would love to see these two fight but i think silva would have too much of a wight advantage.[/quote'] I agree with you. Silva is dominant there is no doubt about that but guys like Lutter, Leben, Leites, Cote and yes even Franklin are not top notch guys. Franklin is a good fighter but he is not at an elite level. The guys GSP has fought and beaten are of a much higher calibre and you cannot argue that at all. Hughes, Sherk, Trigg, Koscheck, Fitch, Parisyan, Alves, Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 If by KO you mean choke. But aside from that you make good points with the mid-fight adjustments. We saw in the recent light weight title fight when your one-track strategy (KenFlo) is failing you it's only a matter of time until you are defeated. Silva is impressive with his mid-fight adjustments. Specifically in the Henderson fight and even before that in the Lutter fight. Talent' date=' intelligence, power, complete, and continually fighting top contenders and making them look like novices in the process: yup I can go along with best pound-for-pound in MMA right now.[/quote'] Good call on the choke, not KO. My bad. Not knocking what you said on GSP, he's a great fighter, and no 2 p4p guy in the UFC right now. you just can't fault a guy cuz he hasn't lost and been forced to deal with adversity. GSP has faced some great oppenents tho, and he's younger, so eventually he'll likely pass him in this conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshness Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Anderson Silva really is the best current p4p because he's the only guy that is fighting out of his weight class and being succesful. He cemented that fact with beating Forrest who was the former LHW champion. A guy to keep an eye out for is Gegard Mousasi. He's only 24 and has been nothing but impressive. Watch for him to tool Sokoudjou in Dream just like he did to Mark Hunt. That guys is fighting people WAY heavier and bigger than him. Of course, Mark Hunt and Sokoudjou aren't exactly top talent, but his impressive win over Sobral is. It would be great to see him come into the UFC and fight the LHWs and see if his skill/hype really lives up. I think he would give Silva all kinds of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_Omega Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 yes and no yes he is middleweight champ beat forest bad and on about moving to heavywight the man is gifted no doubt but to me to be the greatest you have to fight the very best win convincinly and remain undeafted' date=' or if you lose come back from those defeats avenge them and get stronger and better because of this. i personally think gsp is the best fighter in the world and would love to see these two fight but i think silva would have too much of a wight advantage.[/quote'] That post made absolutely no sense. You said you have to remain undefeated and I was like ok he thinks Machida is the bets but then you say GSP. lol. Anderson is on an 11 fight win streak and finished 9 of his last 11. GSp has finished 5 of his last 11. Who's winning convincingly? Even when Silva didn't KO people he won without breaking a sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytho1 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 we need to see gsp come up to 185 and dominate someone like hendo or marquardt as silva did griffin then there can be an argument as to whether gsp is better wrong. james irvin isnt on hendo or nates level. and i dont care what anybody says about griffin, call me crazy if you want....but griffin isnt great. he beat rampage...wow. rampage is super one dimensional. jardine almost beat rampage and nobody talks about jardine in the respects that they talk about griffin. so if gsp did go up to 185 i would say he would need to fight somebody like say a patrick cote, ed herman, then maybe an alan belcher or a ricardo almeida. but to say gsp has to fight somebody like hendo and nate, arguably the 2 best in that division under silva, is just ludicrous . GSP is the best fighter in the world lb for lb under 185 lbs...and he could still probably convincingly beat half the 185 lb division on just his wrestling ability alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdusty Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 depends on what your looking for really. there are strong arguements for both sides. silva beats most guys with a knockout, which is impressive. gsp will throw you on the ground, pound on you, throw your submission attempt off and continue to have his way with you...which is equally impressive imo. anderson has won outside his division. but you could argue gsp beat the champ of another weight class (BJ). silvas lost a few times but that was a long time ago. gsp lost a few times but he avenged them both in impressive fashion. silva has fought much bigger guys but gsp has fought more talented guys. it could go back and forth for hours. id love to just see these guys fight but the one problem i see is at what weight should they fight. silva cant cut to 170lbs. if they fight at 185lbs on fight night gsp will be 190lbs and silva will weigh an easy 205. thats the main problem i see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirdecus Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 First, I don't consider Anderson Silva to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world. He's a great fighter, but in Fedor were in the UFC, with the hype machine behind him, Dana would be saying the same thing about him. Secondly, I agree with Dana in MMA rules. I think the P4P best MMA fighter in the world should be any other champion from other contact sports. But if Fedor walks into a boxing match, under boxing rules, i don't think he'd beat the number 1 heavyweight in the world. In MMA rules, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchdrunk69 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 yeah but gsp hasnt fought in 2 weight classes and still dominated' date=' and while gsp did lose and learn from his losses, he still did get owned by serra, no one in the cage has even come close to finishing silva other than henerson who ended up getting owned in the 2nd rd. and the only reason he hasnt avenged those losses is he isnt able to fight them now, we need to see gsp come up to 185 and dominate someone like hendo or marquardt as silva did griffin then there can be an argument as to whether gsp is better[/quote'] exellent point and would like to see it happen against silva but as to avengeing the loses he should have taken a comeback fight and then gotten back into the ring with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchdrunk69 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 depends on what your looking for really. there are strong arguements for both sides. silva beats most guys with a knockout' date=' which is impressive. gsp will throw you on the ground, pound on you, throw your submission attempt off and continue to have his way with you...which is equally impressive imo. anderson has won outside his division. but you could argue gsp beat the champ of another weight class (BJ). silvas lost a few times but that was a long time ago. gsp lost a few times but he avenged them both in impressive fashion. silva has fought much bigger guys but gsp has fought more talented guys. it could go back and forth for hours. id love to just see these guys fight but the one problem i see is at what weight should they fight. silva cant cut to 170lbs. if they fight at 185lbs on fight night gsp will be 190lbs and silva will weigh an easy 205. thats the main problem i see.[/quote'] this is themost sense talked on this subject and i say the conclusion to this is make the fight happen at 175-180 catch weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billytk Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dana White said in his interview that when he says Anderson Silva is the best pound for pound fighter in the world' date=' he means hes the best all around fighter in the world, that nobody is better than him that do profesional sports...boxing, tae kwan do, karate etc etc.... do you agree??[/quote'] NO Anderson is good but not the best he's not even the best P4P in MMA, both Fedor and GSP are better p4p mma fighters and that's not even attempting to compare other contact sports. One of andersons biggest advantages is that he's a HUGE MW when he fights at LHW that's closer to his natural weight which is why he can be competitive at a second weight class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Dana White said in his interview that when he says Anderson Silva is the best pound for pound fighter in the world' date=' he means hes the best all around fighter in the world, that nobody is better than him that do profesional sports...boxing, tae kwan do, karate etc etc.... do you agree??[/quote'] I think it is that nobody is as good at what they do as Silva is at MMA, But that may be a stretch, I mean Mayweather and Pacqiaou are pretty damn good! GSP and Machida are also pretty damn good. But it is at least debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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