futurewelterweight63 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Look at his mma background. Name 2 fighters that are bad that actually fought him and come on does anyone think that martin kampman or mike swick is an actual threat? HE MADE THIAGO ALVES JUST LOOK BAD he is the Anderson Silva of the welterweight class Who is the next big threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHamer Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Look at his mma background. Name 2 fighters that are bad that actually fought him and come on does anyone think that martin kampman or mike swick is an actual threat? HE MADE THIAGO ALVES JUST LOOK BAD he is the Anderson Silva of the welterweight class Who is the next big threat? Now me and you didn't get off on the best foot, so let's start again with a clean slate. You make a very good point about GSP's level of competition, which has been consistently high. Also, anytime he has fought an opponent for the second time (Penn, Hughes,Serra) he has dominated them. And to beat Alves like he did whilst carrying an injury was very impressive. I think Kampmann could pose a threat to the title, providing he gets past Swick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSPisLEGEND Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 agreed.. i reallly dont see any other threats to gsp at this time.. he is at his prime and he looks PERFECT in his fights. SWICK and KAMPAN have no chance against him BUT they want their shots so i guess they should get it.. plz no one get on this thread and say that SWICK or Kampan will give him a tough match or has a chance of winning. and dont say tht gsp has any threats bcuz he really doesnt im not sayen all of this bcuz im a HUGE fan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHamer Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 agreed.. i reallly dont see any other threats to gsp at this time.. he is at his prime and he looks PERFECT in his fights. SWICK and KAMPAN have no chance against him BUT they want their shots so i guess they should get it.. plz no one get on this thread and say that SWICK or Kampan will give him a tough match or has a chance of winning. and dont say tht gsp has any threats bcuz he really doesnt im not sayen all of this bcuz im a HUGE fan.. Let me explain my reasons for saying Kampmann has a chance. For most of his UFC career he has fought at MW, and withstood the striking of Drew McFedries and Jorge Rivera, both very heavy handed strikers. He was able to roll with Thales Leites, a very good BJJ black belt. I'm not saying Kampmann would win, just that he is one of the more obvious challenges for GSP in the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted_Mind Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Look at his mma background. Name 2 fighters that are bad that actually fought him and come on does anyone think that martin kampman or mike swick is an actual threat? HE MADE THIAGO ALVES JUST LOOK BAD he is the Anderson Silva of the welterweight class Who is the next big threat? Dont insult anderson silva, he only grinded one decision, but it wasnt hes fault. Made alves look bad? Naah he just lyed on top of him and punished alves with his groin. Dont compare gsp to silva hes not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 nobody in ww will give him a decent fight. I read somewhere a few weeks ago that if he beats the winner of swick kampman he will hold a victory over almost all of the ufcs top 10 ww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius42 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I don't think I would call either of them a threat, but they could catch him with a well placed strike. Let us not forget Serra's upset. Everyone always has a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyosha24 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Let me explain my reasons for saying Kampmann has a chance. For most of his UFC career he has fought at MW' date=' and withstood the striking of Drew McFedries and Jorge Rivera, both very heavy handed strikers. He was able to roll with Thales Leites, a very good BJJ black belt. I'm not saying Kampmann would win, just that he is one of the more obvious challenges for GSP in the UFC.[/quote'] good point. he poses a bigger threat than swick imo. and twisted mind he made alves look really bad. like he didnt belong in the same octagon. and did you not see silva lietes. he ground that decision out. some of the fault falls on the shoulders of silva. you can make the a silva gsp comparison not in fight styles but in dominance. right now gsp is just going to rule his division unless someone catches him with a punch like serra did. but he so good that he doesnt make the same mistake twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Some say Anthony Johnson, but he's nowhere near ready to pose a serious threat to GSP. Maybe one day, but he's still young and at 6'2" with a fairly large frame it will be difficult for him to cut by then. I see him more at middleweight by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntreb23 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Dont compare gsp to silva hes not even close If he's not even close why are they considering fighting, GSP being the one having to move up. They are both in the UFC you make it sound like Silva is superhuman or something. He can lose you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Bmoney Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Has everyone forgot about rumble johnson?? dude is huge. If he good get a little better rounded, he could pose a threat. Couldn't he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Bmoney Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 If he's not even close why are they considering fighting' date=' GSP being the one having to move up. They are both in the UFC you make it sound like Silva is superhuman or something. He can lose you know...[/quote'] I completely agree....especially with the last statement. People like silva cuz he doesn't wanna go to the ground. Sounds like a reason for anderson to not wanna fight the takedown MASTER!!!!!!!! (No one can argue his takedown ability) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurewelterweight63 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Dont insult anderson silva' date=' he only grinded one decision, but it wasnt hes fault. Made alves look bad? Naah he just lyed on top of him and punished alves with his groin. Dont compare gsp to silva hes not even close[/quote'] how not? how many title defenses now? i think you are jealous that he is just good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedragonslayer7 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Noone especially if he keeps greasing his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurewelterweight63 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Noone especially if he keeps greasing his back your an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHamer Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Noone especially if he keeps greasing his back The greasegate thing was put to bed a long time ago. GSP dominated Fitch and Alves, and there was no hint of any wrongdoing in those fights. Love him or hate him, GSP is undeniably a great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedragonslayer7 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Haha thought i'd anger a GSP fan but I am no idiot....Penn could beat him with his new conditioning but idk if that fight will happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurewelterweight63 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Has everyone forgot about rumble johnson?? dude is huge. If he good get a little better rounded' date=' he could pose a threat. Couldn't he??[/quote'] your correct, give him some time to evolve to fight gsp i think it would be a nice fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Some say Anthony Johnson' date=' but he's nowhere near ready to pose a serious threat to GSP. Maybe one day, but he's still young and at 6'2" with a fairly large frame it will be difficult for him to cut by then. I see him more at middleweight by then.[/quote'] Has everyone forgot about rumble johnson?? dude is huge. If he good get a little better rounded' date=' he could pose a threat. Couldn't he??[/quote'] Nope, we haven't forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurewelterweight63 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Haha thought i'd anger a GSP fan but I am no idiot....Penn could beat him with his new conditioning but idk if that fight will happen again if the bj fight happened again i think it would either be a tko of either one, more than likely gsp. but bj would definately be in better shape with marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenlonbjj Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Jake sheilds could pose a possible threat to gsp, if ufc signs him. They brought in Carlos Condit for Gsp but jake shields already beat condit. I think Shields vs. GSP is a great one. GSP already called him out too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Dont insult anderson silva' date=' he only grinded one decision, but it wasnt hes fault. Made alves look bad? Naah he just lyed on top of him and punished alves with his groin. Dont compare gsp to silva hes not even close[/quote'] First of all u should not lie to urself it show to everyone how stupid and immature u are . Second why u say dont compare gsp and silva atm gsp is the top p4p fighter in every rating , yahoo , sherdogg and i forget some . Gsp over strike , bjj , westling alves on all the fight he rock him like 3 time whatch alves face before the first take down he already bleeding from is eye. U make a fool of urself by saying lie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Haha thought i'd anger a GSP fan but I am no idiot....Penn could beat him with his new conditioning but idk if that fight will happen again Hahahahah damn u so stupid is so funny . BJ Penn beating GSP AHAHAHAHHAHA . U should watch the first fight bj trying to poke gsp in the eye and when he got him he put combo to beat him by this illegal it , there no way bj can beat gsp NO WAY . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatMyElbow Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I don't care who GSP fights next.. He'll beat them anyways and it'll be good to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Look at his mma background. Name 2 fighters that are bad that actually fought him and come on does anyone think that martin kampman or mike swick is an actual threat? HE MADE THIAGO ALVES JUST LOOK BAD he is the Anderson Silva of the welterweight class Who is the next big threat? GSP fights only guys that he is naturally bigger and stronger than (exception for the entirely 1 dimensional Alves) His skill is undoubtedly impressive, but until he fights some bigger competition I can't say he is one of the best. Come out of your protective zone GSP and fight guys who pose more of a physical threat to prove you are really that good.This is what the greats have done to prove their ability since the beginning of the UFC, First Royce, Randy, Penn, now Silva. Now if he chooses to stay at WW, and there are still some good contenders coming up, it would not diminish his status as one of the best WW ever, but in my opinion does nothing to establish his legacy as one of the P4P best ever, as way too many have already placed on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyosha24 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 everyone needs to quit thinking that the only way you can be a top p4p fighter is if you move up in weight classes. gsp would be a very small mw. he probably has enough skill to win fights in that weight class but it doesnt prove anything. p4p is speculative and as long as there are weight classes you cant truly define who is the best p4p fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedTeaBagger Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 GSP will never lose at WW, its a fact. just like BJ will probly never lose at LW and anderson will never lose at MW. i say this, yet i would laugh my **** off if all three of them lost their next fights. but i think after GSP breaks Matt hughes' record of 5 title defenses in a row, he should move up permanently to MW, cuz then he would do 2 things: 1) appease his desire to cement his "legacy" and 2) give the fans wat they want and fight anderson (if he doesnt retire by then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Dont insult anderson silva' date=' he only grinded one decision, but it wasnt hes fault. Made alves look bad? Naah he just lyed on top of him and punished alves with his groin. Dont compare gsp to silva hes not even close[/quote']Stop huggin Silva's nuts.... If he's not even close why are they considering fighting' date=' GSP being the one having to move up. They are both in the UFC you make it sound like Silva is superhuman or something. He can lose you know...[/quote'] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
720fighter Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 First of all u should not lie to urself it show to everyone how stupid and immature u are . Second why u say dont compare gsp and silva atm gsp is the top p4p fighter in every rating ' date=' yahoo , sherdogg and i forget some . Gsp over strike , bjj , westling alves on all the fight he rock him like 3 time whatch alves face before the first take down he already bleeding from is eye. U make a fool of urself by saying lie .[/quote'] silva isn't considered the p4p best right now. silva is. silva has been on top for a long time. i believe fedor took 1st for awhile but silva came right back on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I don't think I would call either of them a threat' date=' but they could catch him with a well placed strike. Let us not forget Serra's upset. Everyone always has a chance.[/quote'] Indeed. But I agree that no one poses any large threat to GSP right now. He's just to good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 everyone needs to quit thinking that the only way you can be a top p4p fighter is if you move up in weight classes. gsp would be a very small mw. he probably has enough skill to win fights in that weight class but it doesnt prove anything. p4p is speculative and as long as there are weight classes you cant truly define who is the best p4p fighter. because that is what GREAT fighters do when they are physically able, and he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyosha24 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 because that is what GREAT fighters do when they are physically able' date=' and he is.[/quote'] so matt hughes and chuck lidell arent GREAT fighters. you say that as if it is a fact it is your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 so matt hughes and chuck lidell arent GREAT fighters. you say that as if it is a fact it is your opinion. I also said if they were physically able, and neither of them had the natural physicallity to jump weight. They were both great fighters, in their weight classes, but neither is near the top of any all time, p4p lists which is where people seem to want to put GSP! And since this is a public forum I guess I just took for granted that I don't have to say "in my opinion" with each post, that should be a given for all posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmakillsallothersports Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 i think the closest to gsp is fitch and i dont think he could beat him between swick and kampmann i think swick has a better chance no one is going to out class him on the ground in that division and swick is obviously one of the best ww strikers id say a great striker and sprawler has the best chance against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyosha24 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 i just dont see why everyone thinks someone has to jump weightclasses to be considered one of the best all time. if a silva had never gone up to lhw and retired as a mw he would still be considered one of the best all time. i personally dont think it is good for the sport when contenders have to wait for silva to fight in a weight class that he is not even trying to get the belt in. since machida has it. reliquish the belt or stay in your class thats what i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 i just dont see why everyone thinks someone has to jump weightclasses to be considered one of the best all time. if a silva had never gone up to lhw and retired as a mw he would still be considered one of the best all time. i personally dont think it is good for the sport when contenders have to wait for silva to fight in a weight class that he is not even trying to get the belt in. since machida has it. reliquish the belt or stay in your class thats what i think. If that were the case I would say the same thing about him since he obviously, like GSP, has the physical tools to make the jump. I would say he was one of the best ever in his weightclass but not in consideration for all time p4p. Just to support my point look at any ranking of all time great boxers. You can rest assured that the majority of the fighters making the list were champs in multiple divisions. Sugar Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Roy Jones Jr, De LaHoya, Mighty Mouth Mayweather, Julio Cesar Chavez...all multiple division champs. I do agree that it is an injustice to other fighters in the division to hold the belt without defending it but that is more on Dana and the UFC brass who make the fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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