Dan Henderson vs Nate Marquardt

[HuNtEr_S_tHoMpSoN]

This is only my opinion, I would love to see Henderson/A.Silva II...Henderson is one of the greatest fighters to step into the ring...with that said.

 

Since UFc was going to have Henderson/Franklin II for number 1 contender spot(which isnt going to happen) I think a Dan Henderson vs Nate Marquardt would be a good idea.

 

Nate 'the great' Marquardt looked outstanding in his last 3 fights...Dan Henderson looked great his fight against Bisping and is on a three fight win streak as well.

 

This would allow time for George St. Pierre vs Anderson Silva...MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!

 

...btw George is apparently training to gain weight....maybe its already happening.

[ricoj3323]

This is only my opinion' date=' I would love to see Henderson/A.Silva II...Henderson is one of the greatest fighters to step into the ring...with that said.

 

Since UFc was going to have Henderson/Franklin II for number 1 contender spot(which isnt going to happen) I think a Dan Henderson vs Nate Marquardt would be a good idea.

 

Nate 'the great' Marquardt looked outstanding in his last 3 fights...Dan Henderson looked great his fight against Bisping and is on a three fight win streak as well.

 

This would allow time for George St. Pierre vs Anderson Silva...MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!

 

...btw George is apparently training to gain weight....maybe its already happening.[/quote']

 

i would love to see Henderson vs. Marquardt, man that makes me go crazy to think about that, i would be rooting for Marquardt cause hes a beast

[wing_chun]

here my spill on it

 

really hendo kinda deserves a shot, but when you go back as far as the thalis leitas fight for nate youve gotta consider he was duped on technicalities, he beat the crap outa the now released thalis and shouldve had a shot before hendo got into the position he is. They have to make the most of andersons remaining fights so its gonna have to be a Dan Hendo v Nate Marquarte match up in my books. Let anderson do another fight at lhw, then have him drop down to defend his belt one last time. That would still leave the UFC with one more fight to hand anderson as LHW if defeated or defend the belt one last time or relinquish. Also the timing of those fights would work out well, if nate stayed in shape, (he didn't brake a sweat/no injuries), he and dan could fight soon.

[RaMPaG3_BLaZ3]

i would love to see Henderson vs. Marquardt' date=' man that makes me go crazy to think about that, i would be rooting for Marquardt cause hes a beast[/quote']

 

Yeah Marquardt is. So what's Dan a squirrel?

 

You better GTFO with that Dan vs Marquardt. Dont get me wrong Id love that fight as much as the previous guy, but lets see

 

Dan Henderson after title fight: 3-0

nice

Nate Marquardt after title fight: 4-1 (with 1 technically 5-0)

impressive

 

However Henderson comes into the UFC with TWO belts. Nate vacated the King of Pancrase belt. Henderson had much better competition with way more top guys. He is also a way more decorated wrestler. Coming into the UFC with two belts and going on a 3 fight win streak definitely warrants a champion's second chance. He also has a better chance against Silva. I think Hendo deserves that shot but it wouldnt be the end of the world if they were to fight. But Hendo would outwrestle and Marquardt.

[ricoj3323]

Yeah Marquardt is. So what's Dan a squirrel?

 

You better GTFO with that Dan vs Marquardt. Dont get me wrong Id love that fight as much as the previous guy' date=' but lets see

 

Dan Henderson after title fight: 3-0

nice

Nate Marquardt after title fight: 4-1 (with 1 technically 5-0)

impressive

 

However Henderson comes into the UFC with TWO belts. Nate vacated the King of Pancrase belt. Henderson had much better competition with way more top guys. He is also a way more decorated wrestler. Coming into the UFC with two belts and going on a 3 fight win streak definitely warrants a champion's second chance. He also has a better chance against Silva. I think Hendo deserves that shot but it wouldnt be the end of the world if they were to fight. But Hendo would outwrestle and Marquardt.[/quote']

 

i think you dont know crap, stop pretending to be a fan

[JujitsWho]

Yeah Marquardt is. So what's Dan a squirrel?

 

You better GTFO with that Dan vs Marquardt. Dont get me wrong Id love that fight as much as the previous guy' date=' but lets see

 

Dan Henderson after title fight: 3-0

nice

Nate Marquardt after title fight: 4-1 (with 1 technically 5-0)

impressive

 

However Henderson comes into the UFC with TWO belts. Nate vacated the King of Pancrase belt. Henderson had much better competition with way more top guys. He is also a way more decorated wrestler. Coming into the UFC with two belts and going on a 3 fight win streak definitely warrants a champion's second chance. He also has a better chance against Silva. I think Hendo deserves that shot but it wouldnt be the end of the world if they were to fight. But Hendo would outwrestle and Marquardt.[/quote']

 

I don't know about Dan out wrestling Nate honestly. Nate trains with the best camp in the game with Jackson and has awesome wrestling. Not only that, Nate is far younger and stronger than Hendo. Add on top of that his BJJ skills and I think Nate walks away with the win in this one. Hendo has that heavy right hand, but Nate and Greg aren't Bisping, they won't circle to his power hand like a ****. I see Nate winning this one with his youth, strength and gameplan personally

[Alpha_Omega]

Actually it's an amazing matchup between 2 big, strong guys and I'd love to see it. Unfortunatelt Hendo is not open to the idea and only wants to fight Anderson.

 

Awesome show of class by Nate to pull that last punch. It sucks that Hendo, Silva and Marquardt all fought in back to back events because If Hendo gets the shot Marquardt will have to wait and likely fight another fight before he gets his shot between recovery time for Hendo and Silva, then recovery time for the winner. Or visa verca of course if Nate gets it.

 

And to guy above me, I wouldn't go as far as to say Marquardt is stronger than Hendo or a better wrestler. I think Hendo's problem is he gets too committed to the stand up and gets taken down more often than he should.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

I definitely want to see this fight also, and have always felt that the winner of the Maia/Marquardt fight should fight Henderson for the next title shot, but it also left me wondering what to do about Okami if he comes back and wins against Chael Sonnen. Were any of those three any more entitled to a title fight than Okami is?? was he not thought to be the number one contender or close prior to his injury? regardless of whether Henderson/Marquardt fight for the next title shot where does he fall in? I don't want to see him fight Marquardt (assuming he beats Sonnen) if the UFC gives Henderson the next title shot. I would rather see him fight Maia, if he gets past Sonnen, just so he doesnt get ring rust while waiting for his title shot. It would seem unfair to both Okami and Marquardt to have to fight each other, but I guess there's no other way to make unanimous top contender without doing so.

[flagellum_dei]

I would like to see the fight, but hendo earned his shot at the title again, he has done better against silva than any other fighter, if dan wins than give nate his fight with dan. if you put them up against each other (both deserving of a title shot) it knocks one out of title contention. this way both get a chance at the title

[Alpha_Omega]

^ True but I think Marquardt has the right tools to beat Anderson and sufferedn an early stand up in their fight. Not as bad as the pathetic stand up in the Cro Cop Vs Gonzaga fight (obviously supposed to have benefitted Cro Cop and failed) but still early. Takase showed us that a wrestler with good submissions can get the job done if in a dominant position. Marquardt has those tools and is, in my opinon, and I've been saying this for a while, the most well rounded fighter in the MW division. Very solid striker, wrestler and BJJ fighter.

 

I think Dan can edge out a decision but I think Marquardt can finish Anderson. If, of course, they fight the perfect fight.

[Exodus9mm]

I definitely want to see this fight also' date=' and have always felt that the winner of the Maia/Marquardt fight should fight Henderson for the next title shot, but it also left me wondering what to do about Okami if he comes back and wins against Chael Sonnen. Were any of those three any more entitled to a title fight than Okami is?? was he not thought to be the number one contender or close prior to his injury? regardless of whether Henderson/Marquardt fight for the next title shot where does he fall in? I don't want to see him fight Marquardt (assuming he beats Sonnen) if the UFC gives Henderson the next title shot. I would rather see him fight Maia, if he gets past Sonnen, just so he doesnt get ring rust while waiting for his title shot. It would seem unfair to both Okami and Marquardt to have to fight each other, but I guess there's no other way to make unanimous top contender without doing so.[/quote']

 

Get Okami and Sonned the hell outta this discussion. Okami, are you kidding me?

 

Realistically, Hendo is OWED a rematch with Silva. If we make it a little more interesting, we get Nate/Hendo and winner gets Silva. I would love this, but it likely won't happen.

 

Okami/Sonnen, get the f bomb outta here with such garbage.

[Alpha_Omega]

^ Okami is an awesome fighter I don't see why the discredit to the guy. He's easily in the top 5 if he can stay healthy and I'm looking forward to watching him live at UFC 104 here in LA.

[JujitsWho]

Get Okami and Sonned the hell outta this discussion. Okami' date=' are you kidding me?

 

Realistically, Hendo is OWED a rematch with Silva. If we make it a little more interesting, we get Nate/Hendo and winner gets Silva. I would love this, but it likely won't happen.

 

Okami/Sonnen, get the f bomb outta here with such garbage.[/quote']

 

You do know Okami is one of the few fighters in the world with a win over Silva right?

[Exodus9mm]

You do know Okami is one of the few fighters in the world with a win over Silva right?

 

I'm quite aware. I'm not talking about the past, I'm talking about the present. And in a present perspective, Okami and Sonnen don't hold water in a Silva/Hendo/Marquardt discussion.

[Exodus9mm]

You do know Okami is one of the few fighters in the world with a win over Silva right?

 

You are aware that this win was a DQ from an illegal kick right? You wanna hype that as a win in an irrelevant discussion, be my guest. Wow.

[JujitsWho]

You are aware that this win was a DQ from an illegal kick right? You wanna hype that as a win in an irrelevant discussion' date=' be my guest. Wow.[/quote']

 

Just pointing out it was a win

 

Not only that, but Okami was tooling Silva to that point in the fight regardless. Silva is a far better fighter now than then, but Okami still has the style that could cause problems for Silva if the fight gets to the ground. Okami has awesome GnP and Silva is worthless off his back

[Exodus9mm]

Just pointing out it was a win

 

Not only that' date=' but Okami was tooling Silva to that point in the fight regardless. Silva is a far better fighter now than then, but Okami still has the style that could cause problems for Silva if the fight gets to the ground. Okami has awesome GnP and Silva is worthless off his back[/quote']

 

I'll concede Okami is a helluva fighter, but to bring him up in the present conversation is useless. Hence my previous comment. He needs to worry about Sonnen first (who he should destroy). Then, and only then, can we discuss his role in a potential title shot with Silva. However, Hendo may have the belt by then anyway. Relax, I'm not discreditting Okami - simply his position in a title shot discussion involving Silva/Hendo/Marquardt.

[Exodus9mm]

Just pointing out it was a win

 

Not only that' date=' but Okami was tooling Silva to that point in the fight regardless. Silva is a far better fighter now than then, but Okami still has the style that could cause problems for Silva if the fight gets to the ground. Okami has awesome GnP and Silva is worthless off his back[/quote']

 

And I don't think Silva is worthless off his back. If he was worthless off his back, he wouldn't be a BJJ black belt under the Nogueiras. That was a silly add on dude.

[JoelJacobs]

Dan and Nate should fight in Oct. Hell they could even fight next month. I mean Nate only fought for about 30 seconds so he is fresh and ready to go. You know dan has been training too so he should be ready. I say let these guys fight ASAP and find out who the top contender is. Make it happen Dana!

[JujitsWho]

And I don't think Silva is worthless off his back. If he was worthless off his back' date=' he wouldn't be a BJJ black belt under the Nogueiras. That was a silly add on dude.[/quote']

 

Come on now man....Silva is not a very dangerous guy off his back. He gets frustrated and just lays flat and doesn't even posture up with his torso or try to hip out, he just lays there. Lutter (Had he been in shape) would have killed Silva. Silva happend to catch a half assed triangle because Lutter was stupid and not paying attention. Even then it was so lose he had to use his elbows to get him to tap! Silva does have good BJJ no doubt, but he is no N0G off his back.....not even close...hes barely better than Mir off his back IMO

[Exodus9mm]

Come on now man....Silva is not a very dangerous guy off his back. He gets frustrated and just lays flat and doesn't even posture up with his torso or try to hip out' date=' he just lays there. Lutter (Had he been in shape) would have killed Silva. Silva happend to catch a half assed triangle because Lutter was stupid and not paying attention. Even then it was so lose he had to use his elbows to get him to tap! Silva does have good BJJ no doubt, but he is no N0G off his back.....not even close...hes barely better than Mir off his back IMO[/quote']

 

First off, we've only ever seen him on his back once in the UFC. Secondly, are you implying Lutter was out of shape because he was 3 lbs overweight? I hope not. Silva realized Lutter didn't have the power to do any damage from the mount and waited for the triangle. I'll concede that the top spikes were of contention and it wasn't a very decisive victory though. Certainly he is no N0g (who is?) and I'd back you up by saying he's not EVEN as good as Mir. But to say he is bad off the back is a poor quip imo.

[JoelJacobs]

Come on now man....Silva is not a very dangerous guy off his back. He gets frustrated and just lays flat and doesn't even posture up with his torso or try to hip out' date=' he just lays there. Lutter (Had he been in shape) would have killed Silva. Silva happend to catch a half assed triangle because Lutter was stupid and not paying attention. Even then it was so lose he had to use his elbows to get him to tap! Silva does have good BJJ no doubt, but he is no N0G off his back.....not even close...hes barely better than Mir off his back IMO[/quote']

 

You make a point but i dont think you should have used the word "worthless". He's still dangerous off his back. lets be realistic.

[JoelJacobs]

First off' date=' we've only ever seen him on his back once in the UFC. Secondly, are you implying Lutter was out of shape because he was 3 lbs overweight? I hope not. Silva realized Lutter didn't have the power to do any damage from the mount and waited for the triangle. I'll concede that the top spikes were of contention and it wasn't a very decisive victory though. Certainly he is no N0g (who is?) and I'd back you up by saying he's not EVEN as good as Mir. But to say he is bad off the back is a poor quip imo.[/quote']

 

actually twice on his back. dont forget hendo in round 1.

[JujitsWho]

First off' date=' we've only ever seen him on his back once in the UFC. Secondly, are you implying Lutter was out of shape because he was 3 lbs overweight? I hope not. Silva realized Lutter didn't have the power to do any damage from the mount and waited for the triangle. I'll concede that the top spikes were of contention and it wasn't a very decisive victory though. Certainly he is no N0g (who is?) and I'd back you up by saying he's not EVEN as good as Mir. But to say he is bad off the back is a poor quip imo.[/quote'] Lutter had him on his back in their fight and Hendo had him on his back the whole first round of his fight with Silva. Im not saying the guy isn't a stud at all. I have crazy respect for Silva. All I'm saying is that off his back is where he is weakest IMO and thats where he'll be beaten

 

You make a point but i dont think you should have used the word "worthless". He's still dangerous off his back. lets be realistic.

 

I can agree with this, worthless was a bit harsh. He does have the long legs and the body triangle can be effective for him. I was just making a point that Silva on his back is FAAAAR less dangerous than Silva standing or in the clintch....agreed?

[JoelJacobs]

I can agree with this' date=' worthless was a bit harsh. He does have the long legs and the body triangle can be effective for him. I was just making a point that Silva on his back is FAAAAR less dangerous than Silva standing or in the clintch....agreed?[/quote']

 

Well i would have to be retarted to not agree with that....lol

[Exodus9mm]

Lutter had him on his back in their fight and Hendo had him on his back the whole first round of his fight with Silva. Im not saying the guy isn't a stud at all. I have crazy respect for Silva. All I'm saying is that off his back is where he is weakest IMO and thats where he'll be beaten

 

 

 

I can agree with this' date=' worthless was a bit harsh. He does have the long legs and the body triangle can be effective for him. I was just making a point that Silva on his back is FAAAAR less dangerous than Silva standing or in the clintch....agreed?[/quote']

 

Definitely agreed. And I gapped on Hendo having him there too. I personally think Hendo is gonna knock him out if he wins. I can dream.....lol. Odds are, the way to beat Silva is on the ground for sure, but I'm hoping that monster right of Hendo's comes through again. Boy, would that shutup ArcaneKnight.

[Exodus9mm]

Lutter had him on his back in their fight and Hendo had him on his back the whole first round of his fight with Silva. Im not saying the guy isn't a stud at all. I have crazy respect for Silva. All I'm saying is that off his back is where he is weakest IMO and thats where he'll be beaten

 

 

 

I can agree with this' date=' worthless was a bit harsh. He does have the long legs and the body triangle can be effective for him. I was just making a point that Silva on his back is FAAAAR less dangerous than Silva standing or in the clintch....agreed?[/quote']

 

I don't like arguing with fellow BJ Penn lovers either. lol

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

Get Okami and Sonned the hell outta this discussion. Okami' date=' are you kidding me?

 

Realistically, Hendo is OWED a rematch with Silva. If we make it a little more interesting, we get Nate/Hendo and winner gets Silva. I would love this, but it likely won't happen.

 

Okami/Sonnen, get the f bomb outta here with such garbage.[/quote']

 

Relax, I'm not discreditting Okami - simply his position in a title shot discussion involving Silva/Hendo/Marquardt.

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it's amazing a guys' ego is so big that he doesn't realize when he contradicts himself...not to mention the fact that the topic had nothing to do with Sonnen at all, but simply Okami deserving a chance at the title....how in the world can you be top 10 middleweight (TOP 5 in most polls taken) and not be considered title fight worthy? Next time try and be logical and reasonable ,and not critical and belligerent for arguments sake. It would at least help you to appear to be a little more mature AND LESS OF AN IDIOT than probably you actually are.

[JujitsWho]

Definitely agreed. And I gapped on Hendo having him there too. I personally think Hendo is gonna knock him out if he wins. I can dream.....lol. Odds are' date=' the way to beat Silva is on the ground for sure, but I'm hoping that monster right of Hendo's comes through again. [b']Boy, would that shutup ArcaneKnight[/b].

 

That would be worth more than Hendo winning to me HAHAHA

[Exodus9mm]

it's amazing a guys' ego is so big that he doesn't realize when he contradicts himself...not to mention the fact that the topic had nothing to do with Sonnen at all' date=' but simply Okami deserving a chance at the title....how in the world can you be top 10 middleweight in most polls taken and not be considered title fight worthy? Next time try and be logical and reasonable ,and not critical and belligerent for arguments sake. It would at least help you to appear to be a little more mature than probably you actually are.[/quote']

 

Wow. Top 10 doesn't make you title worthy fool. What is the title of this thread guy? Hendo vs Nate. Do I see Okami's name in the title? You wanna make an Okami/Silva thread, be my guest, but that's not the topic at hand. Get real fool.

[JujitsWho]

I don't like arguing with fellow BJ Penn lovers either. lol

I wasn't argueing....I was debating. It was fun and I have no hard feelings at all

it's amazing a guys' ego is so big that he doesn't realize when he contradicts himself...not to mention the fact that the topic had nothing to do with Sonnen at all' date=' but simply Okami deserving a chance at the title....how in the world can you be top 10 middleweight in most polls taken and not be considered title fight worthy? Next time try and be logical and reasonable ,and not critical and belligerent for arguments sake. It would at least help you to appear to be a little more mature than probably you actually are.[/quote']

 

I see your point on Okami and I agree with that. I feel Okami has been overlooked by Joe Silva for a long time.

 

But please try not to flame other members ok. you can disagree all night long ( I just did for like 2 pages with the guy) and not call people names. Ok?

[Exodus9mm]

Relax' date=' I'm not discreditting Okami - simply his position in a title shot discussion involving Silva/Hendo/Marquardt.

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it's amazing a guys' ego is so big that he doesn't realize when he contradicts himself...not to mention the fact that the topic had nothing to do with Sonnen at all, but simply Okami deserving a chance at the title....how in the world can you be top 10 middleweight in most polls taken and not be considered title fight worthy? Next time try and be logical and reasonable ,and not critical and belligerent for arguments sake. It would at least help you to appear to be a little more mature AND LESS OF AN IDIOT than probably you actually are.[/quote']

 

Nice edit chump. And that's not a contradiction, you just can't read.

[Exodus9mm]

I wasn't argueing....I was debating. It was fun and I have no hard feelings at all

 

 

I see your point on Okami and I agree with that. I feel Okami has been overlooked by Joe Silva for a long time.

 

But please try not to flame other members ok. you can disagree all night long ( I just did for like 2 pages with the guy) and not call people names. Ok?

 

I hear ya - some people take personal offence to forum banter, which blows my mind. Definitely no hard feelings whatsoever. I generally only flame people who say things like Randy Couture has never been submitted. I know I should show restraint, but I've invested too much time in MMA over the last 20 years to be kind ALL the time.

[JujitsWho]

I hear ya - some people take personal offence to forum banter' date=' which blows my mind. Definitely no hard feelings whatsoever. I generally only flame people who say things like Randy Couture has never been submitted. I know I should show restraint, but I've invested too much time in MMA over the last 20 years to be kind ALL the time. [/quote']

 

HAHAHA yeah I hear ya.

 

Actually I think I call him out on that before you did LOL

[thedragonslayer7]

I would rather just see Hendo fight Silva and not fight Nate.....but if Silva has another LHW bout in his next fight that fight would make sense

[Exodus9mm]

I would rather just see Hendo fight Silva and not fight Nate.....but if Silva has another LHW bout in his next fight that fight would make sense

 

In all likelihood, Hendo/Marq ain't happening. I think Dana has too much respect for Dan to make him take a step back. It creates an interesting triangle right now for sure, but we'll see Hendo/Silva 2 shortly.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

Wow. Top 10 doesn't make you title worthy fool. What is the title of this thread guy? Hendo vs Nate. Do I see Okami's name in the title? You wanna make an Okami/Silva thread' date=' be my guest, but that's not the topic at hand. Get real fool.[/quote']

 

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FOOL!!!...if I'm not mistaken this thread is pure speculation about what would be if a person could have there way...ultimately this thread revolves around who is more deserving of the next title shot against Anderson Silva which makes Okami very relevant to this thread, because it was just as much speculated it would be him at one time prior to his injury.

 

...and oh yeah since I'm the fool name at least one person who wasn't ranked in the top ten prior to them getting a title shot in a major organization in the last three years ANYWHERE in MMA and i will make a personal thread acknowledging you as being an expert an MMA and concede that this fool knows absolutely nothing about MMA. Kenny Florian isn't even considered be top 5, but he is top ten and was fighting for a title shot. Most would agree he was the #1 contender in the UFC when he fought Penn, but really there's usually not a big gap between contenders 1-3 in the same organization.

[Wandering_Minstrel]

People take stuff personally on the internet? Really? Say it ain't so!!! :eek:

 

Oh... and so this post stays relevant... with the way Marquardt has been looking lately... I'd put my money on him if he fought Hendo.

[thedragonslayer7]

In all likelihood' date=' Hendo/Marq ain't happening. I think Dana has too much respect for Dan to make him take a step back. It creates an interesting triangle right now for sure, but we'll see Hendo/Silva 2 shortly.[/quote']

 

Yeah i hope so and he definitely deserves it

[Exodus9mm]

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FOOL!!!...if I'm not mistaken this thread is pure speculation about what would be if a person could have there way...ultimately this thread revolves around who is more deserving of the next title shot against Anderson Silva which makes Okami very relevant to this thread' date=' because it was just as much speculated it would be him at one time prior to his injury.

 

...and oh yeah since I'm the fool name at least one person who wasn't ranked in the top ten prior to them getting a title shot in a major organization in the last three years ANYWHERE in MMA and i will make a personal thread acknowledging you as being an expert an MMA and concede that this fool knows absolutely nothing about MMA.[/quote']

 

Unreal. You said Okami deserves to be in the discussion because he's a Top 10 ranked fighter. I said being in the Top 10 doesn't give you title shot credentials. The guy posted at 10th, doesn't come up in conversation against the champ. Learn how to read please. And again, I'll reitterate that the title of this thread is Dan Henderson vs Nate Marquardt. Okami's name shouldn't even be discussed here if we're staying on point. Okami is scheduled to fight Chael Sonnen at 104, which makes his name even more moot. Get drunk and urinate in your pants, please. I'm being nice for Jitsu.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

Unreal. You said Okami deserves to be in the discussion because he's a Top 10 ranked fighter. I said being in the Top 10 doesn't give you title shot credentials. The guy posted at 10th' date=' doesn't come up in conversation against the champ. Learn how to read please. And again, I'll reitterate that the title of this thread is Dan Henderson vs Nate Marquardt. Okami's name shouldn't even be discussed here if we're staying on point. Okami is scheduled to fight Chael Sonnen at 104, which makes his name even more moot. Get drunk and urinate in your pants, please. I'm being nice for Jitsu.[/quote']

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Okami is 23-4 overall, 7-1 in the Octagon (more than likely to be 8-1...and Chael Sonnen is no push over if that was what you were implying), has the last recorded win over Silva (although by disqualification...it would be considered by most irrelevant depending on what the action was like prior to the DQ), AND TOP 5 MIDDLEWEIGHT in the world....I'm sorry what exactly are you saying doesnt make him title shot worthy?? If you would say, because he hasn't fought in a while i would say that would be the only reason, other than that you're going to appear to be this know it all who really knows nothing. I don't even like Okami that much , but at least I don't need a reality check.

[Exodus9mm]

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Okami is 23-4 overall' date=' 7-1 in the Octagon (more than likely to be 8-1), has the last recorded win over Silva (although by disqualification...it would be considered by most irrelevant depending on what the action was like prior to the DQ), AND TOP 5 MIDDLEWEIGHT in the world....I'm sorry what exactly are you saying doesnt make him title shot worthy?? If you would say, because he hasn't fought in a while i would say that would be the only reason, other than that you're going to appear to be this know it all who really knows nothing. I don't even like Okami that much , but at least I don't need a reality check.[/quote']

 

Dude, your ability to read and apply is embarrassing. You are not comprehending what you're reading. Finish high school, then get back to me.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

Dude' date=' your ability to read and apply is embarrassing. You are not comprehending what you're reading. Finish high school, then get back to me.[/quote']

 

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How about comprehending the fact that you have nothing to offer this thread except insults and backlash when you know you've commented to soon. Seeing as how you don't even know who you're talking to i won't even address the high school comment since that's the best you could come up with. There's people that are far more wittier in comebacks and are lot younger than I suspect you are that could have done a lot better.

[Wandering_Minstrel]

C'mon gentlemen... lets keep it civil, okay?

[Exodus9mm]

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How about comprehending the fact that you have nothing to offer this thread except insults and backlash when you know you've commented to soon. Seeing as how you don't even know who you're talking to i won't even address the high school comment since that's the best you could come up with. There's people that are far more wittier in comebacks and are lot younger than I suspect you are that could have done a lot better.

 

I made one insult regarding bringing up Okami in a thread where his name has no place. You can glorify it all you want, fact is, his name holds no place in a Hendo/Marquardt/Silva discussion. Get over it.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

I made one insult regarding bringing up Okami in a thread where his name has no place. You can glorify it all you want' date=' fact is, his name holds no place in a Hendo/Marquardt/Silva discussion. Get over it.[/quote']

 

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Okami has no place because you said so right???....O' KING THREAD MODERATOR....sorry....Sorry to initially comment on the thread itself and than bring Okami into the discussion...Next time I comment i'll make sure i get your stamp of approval first so I can make sure I'm following protocol.

[Exodus9mm]

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Okami has no place because you said so right???....O' KING THREAD MODERATOR....sorry....Sorry to initially comment on the thread itself and than bring Okami into the discussion...Next time I comment i'll make sure i get your stamp of approval first so I can make sure I'm following protocol.

 

You're obviously having personal issues here. You proclaim your right to bring up Okami in this thread, yet simultaneously discredit my ability to opinionate. Hilarity ensues. What you're having problems dealing with is interpretation. My comments were not directed at you as a person, merely the suggestion in general. Could've been anyone who mentioned Okami and I would've said the same thing. I'm not sure if your psychological stability is compatible with online banter of MMA. Regards.

[Rex_Kwon_Do]

You're obviously having personal issues here. You proclaim your right to bring up Okami in this thread' date=' yet simultaneously discredit my ability to opinionate. Hilarity ensues. What you're having problems dealing with is interpretation. My comments were not directed at you as a person, merely the suggestion in general. Could've been anyone who mentioned Okami and I would've said the same thing. I'm not sure if your psychological stability is compatible with online banter of MMA. Regards.[/quote']

 

You being offended by my bringing up Okami's name I'm fine with (personally i think you need to get a life if it's that serious), but boxing the conversation in and making it a crime to talk about anyone other that Marquardt or Henderson during the thread is what I don't get...and if you say you didn't that's exactly you typed if at the least implied. I brought up Okami name for one reason and one reason only and that's because it was not beyond reason to see him as a contender. I didn't think it would turn into this, but it's all good.

[Exodus9mm]

You being offended by my bringing up Okami's name I'm fine with (personally i think you need to get a life if it's that serious)' date=' but boxing the conversation in and making it a crime to talk about anyone other that Marquardt or Henderson during the thread is what I don't get...and if you say you didn't that's exactly you typed if at the least implied. I brought up Okami name for one reason and one reason only and that's because it was not beyond reason to see him as a contender. I didn't think it would turn into this, but it's all good.[/quote']

 

It's not a crime, it's just the focus of the thread is very specific and you just added an entirely new and (in my opinion) meaningless branch. Okami is certainly top 5 - I would personally place him at 4 behind Marq. You have to take things less personally, and I have to be more specific that my opinion was not about you, but merely the idea. Absolutely it's all good, if for nothing more than improved typing skills. You should've (in my opinion) started an entirely new thread entitled "Forget Marquardt, What About Okami?" or something to that effect. Then, you'd have gotten specific debate about Okami's place in the division and his legitimacy towards a near title shot. I agree, my approach was over the top, and ultimately caused the spiral, so I apologize. No hard ones man.

[SwiftSpear]

After seeing Marquart absolutely HUMILIATE Maia... I must say, I'm now a little on the fence on who I think deserves the next shot at the middle weight title. I think the argument must be made, while Dan's win over Rich Franklin was a bigger win than Marquart's over Goveia, Marquart did better with his fight... and now Marquart finishes Maia WAY faster than Dan was able to turn off Bisping, and you have to have Maia ranked higher than Mikey in middle weight at the point of both of their fights. Recent performances kind of make me lean towards Nate the Great as the man who should get the next shot at the title. Not that Dan doesn't deserve it, but MAN Marquart is a scary guy right now.