Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit, here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida Now, there's a few hitches here - Belfort is dropping to MW and Rich Franklin is bulking up to LHW - so worst case scenario, swap Ace for Vitor. Wandy sounds like he's dropping down too, so that technically leaves a vacancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Another tiny hitch might be getting Nog down to 205 Call me old fashioned but I still believe Randy could beat anything in your list between 5th and 10th (of course if you dont have Nog as above!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manho Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmm...No room in your list for Jon Jones?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitchy17 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Another tiny hitch might be getting Nog down to 205 Call me old fashioned but I still believe Randy could beat anything in your list between 5th and 10th (of course if you dont have Nog as above!) umm i think hes referring to nog's younger brother whos fightin in UFC soon... silva should be higher though after beating forrest who beat ur number 2 in rampage and might move thiago up too after knocking out jardine...maybe more like this, 10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 9. Rich Franklin 8. Forrest Griffin 7. Thiago Silva 6. Rashad Evans 5. Shogun Rua 4. Gegard Mousasi 3. Rampage Jackson 2. Anderson silva 1. Lyoto Machida let me know ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krille2 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I will Mix who I think is the best and who i like.. 1- The Dragon If Andersson Silva gose up it?s a tie. 2-Rampage 3-Gegard 4-Griffin 5-Thiago Silva 6- Rashad Evans 7- Shogun 8-jon Jones 9-Ace 10-Wanderlei Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simber Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 umm i think hes referring to nog's younger brother whos fightin in UFC soon... silva should be higher though after beating forrest who beat ur number 2 in rampage and might move thiago up too after knocking out jardine...maybe more like this' date=' 10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 9. Rich Franklin 8. Forrest Griffin 7. Thiago Silva 6. Rashad Evans 5. Shogun Rua 4. Gegard Mousasi 3. Rampage Jackson 2. Anderson silva 1. Lyoto Machida let me know ideas[/quote'] This one's more like it i rekon, I'm surprised Wandy still makes other people's top ten lists, don't get me wrong I'm a big fan and I know he's a legend of the sport but when you've lost 5 out of your last 6 that kinda suggests there's plenty of guys out there better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameis Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 My top 10 would look a bit different: 1. Machida 2. Rampage 3. Shogun 4. Mousasi 5. Evans 6. Thiago Silva 7. Franklin 8. Griffin 9. Nogueira 10. Hamill Cant include A. Silva as it is not for sure he is moving up. I would like to include guys like Wanderlei Silva or Tito Ortiz but you have to consider their present form and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFS_MMAs_1 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit, here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida ill just give you my 1. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Rashad Evans 4. Jon "Bones" Jones 5. Thiago Silva 6. Shogun Rua 7. Dan Henderson 8. Brandon Vera 9. Vitor Belfort 10. Matt Hamill I leave Anderson Silva out due to his weightclass switching, otherwise he'd be top 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade7 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would love to include Anderson on the list, and he would take the #2 spot if I did, but since he won't challenge for the belt while Machida holds it the best he can be at 205 is a spoiler right now. I am putting Hendo on the list, though, because he fights regularly at 205 and would have no problem taking a title shot if the opportunity arose. 1. Lyoto Machida 2. Rampage Jackson 3. Shogun Rua 4. Dan Henderson 5. Rich Franklin 6. Thiago Silva 7. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 8. Luiz Cane 9. Rashad Evans 10. Gegard Mousasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 umm i think hes referring to nog's younger brother whos fightin in UFC soon... silva should be higher though after beating forrest who beat ur number 2 in rampage and might move thiago up too after knocking out jardine...maybe more like this' date=' 10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 9. Rich Franklin 8. Forrest Griffin 7. Thiago Silva 6. Rashad Evans 5. Shogun Rua 4. Gegard Mousasi 3. Rampage Jackson 2. Anderson silva 1. Lyoto Machida let me know ideas[/quote'] I like your top 7, and then I'd throw in Jon Jones and bump Forrest and Rich down a spot. If Rua looks pretty bad in his fight against Machida I push him out of the top ten after only beating an over-the-hill Liddell and doing nothing else to put him in the top ten over the last couple years. A good showing against Machida and I'd leave him somewhere in the bottom half though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 And I look forward to bumping down Rashad after his upcoming loss to Rampage, but for now I think he and Rua are about right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCliffe2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would love to include Anderson on the list' date=' and he would take the #2 spot if I did, but since he won't challenge for the belt while Machida holds it the best he can be at 205 is a spoiler right now. I am putting Hendo on the list, though, because he fights regularly at 205 and would have no problem taking a title shot if the opportunity arose. 1. Lyoto Machida 2. Rampage Jackson 3. Shogun Rua 4. Dan Henderson 5. Rich Franklin 6. Thiago Silva 7. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 8. Luiz Cane 9. Rashad Evans 10. Gegard Mousasi[/quote'] agreed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 umm i think hes referring to nog's younger brother whos fightin in UFC soon... silva should be higher though after beating forrest who beat ur number 2 in rampage and might move thiago up too after knocking out jardine...maybe more like this' date=' 10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 9. Rich Franklin 8. Forrest Griffin 7. Thiago Silva 6. Rashad Evans 5. Shogun Rua 4. Gegard Mousasi 3. Rampage Jackson 2. Anderson silva 1. Lyoto Machida let me know ideas[/quote'] Solid none the less, but I can't have Anderson Silva at #2 in LHW simply because he beat Forrest who beat Rampage. From a career perspective, Rampage has fought the who's who. Anderson has not, yet anyway. I give him his due at MW, where he obviously owns the #1 spot. I'm hard pressed to have Forrest Griffin on my Top 10 list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit' date=' here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida ill just give you my 1. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Rashad Evans 4. Jon "Bones" Jones 5. Thiago Silva 6. Shogun Rua 7. Dan Henderson 8. Brandon Vera 9. Vitor Belfort 10. Matt Hamill I leave Anderson Silva out due to his weightclass switching, otherwise he'd be top 2[/quote'] Although opinion, I can't give you much credit in realism when you've got Bones Jones at the 4 spot. Although a potential phenom, he still has at least 2-3 wins over solid competition to crack the Top 10. Vera and Hamill? Vera MAYBE, Hamill, not a chance in hell. All opinion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechemicals Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmm...No room in your list for Jon Jones?? He has yet to be tested. The guys on this list have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmakillsallothersports Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 my top 10 lhw 1.machida 2.anderson silva 3.mousasi 4.evans 5.thiago silva 6.rampage 7.franklin 8.henderson 9.hamill 10.vera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would love to include Anderson on the list' date=' and he would take the #2 spot if I did, but since he won't challenge for the belt while Machida holds it the best he can be at 205 is a spoiler right now. I am putting Hendo on the list, though, because he fights regularly at 205 and would have no problem taking a title shot if the opportunity arose. 1. Lyoto Machida 2. Rampage Jackson 3. Shogun Rua 4. Dan Henderson 5. Rich Franklin 6. Thiago Silva 7. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 8. Luiz Cane 9. Rashad Evans 10. Gegard Mousasi[/quote'] Good points on Hendo and A Silva. I can't believe you'd have Luiz Cane at 8 above Rashad and especially Mousasi. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade7 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Good points on Hendo and A Silva. I can't believe you'd have Luiz Cane at 8 above Rashad and especially Mousasi. To each their own. Evans was a tough one for me to place- I just don't think he's looked that great in his recent wins, except for the KO of Chuck. I think Cane would probably win if the two of them fought now, and I expect Cane is going to be getting a lot of attention in 2010, but both him and Evans really need a couple more fights against top guys at 205 to see if they're headed up or down in the division. I really think Mousasi probably deserves to be somewhere in the top 5 at LHW, but he's still pretty untested against top talent as well so it's hard to say. Hopefully he will finish out his contract with Strikeforce and sign with the UFC so we can see him against some top competition next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Evans was a tough one for me to place- I just don't think he's looked that great in his recent wins' date=' except for the KO of Chuck. I think Cane would probably win if the two of them fought now, and I expect Cane is going to be getting a lot of attention in 2010, but both him and Evans really need a couple more fights against top guys at 205 to see if they're headed up or down in the division. I really think Mousasi probably deserves to be somewhere in the top 5 at LHW, but he's still pretty untested against top talent as well so it's hard to say. Hopefully he will finish out his contract with Strikeforce and sign with the UFC so we can see him against some top competition next year.[/quote'] Well said. I agree Cane will make noise in 2010 and he and Evans would make for a stellar fight. Mousasi's ranking is debateable, as you've pointed out his average competition level, but I just can't see how this guy isn't one of the next big things. He has fought some stellar names though recently. His last 6 fights have been against - Babalu, Mark Hunt, Jacare (Ronaldo Souza), Melvin Manhoef, Dok Sik Yoon, and Denis Kang. 3 subs, 2 kos, 1 decision. The kid is an animal and he trains with Fedor. The sky is the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take7hePowerBack92 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 i put gegard like seven bc we havent seen him fight any big time guys at 205 and babalu sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit' date=' here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida Now, there's a few hitches here - Belfort is dropping to MW and Rich Franklin is bulking up to LHW - so worst case scenario, swap Ace for Vitor. Wandy sounds like he's dropping down too, so that technically leaves a vacancy.[/quote'] I must say you have probably THEE worst ranking system EVER! Mousasi has only fought one at 205, and you can't count the superhulk gp either. The rest of his fights have been at 185. Vitor has been a middleweight since his departure from the UFC back in like 05. How is Wanderlei in a the top ten too with his only recent win over keith jardine. God you suck terribly Machida Rampage Rashad Shogun Anderson Silva Thiago Silva Luiz Cane Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Jon Jones Brandon Vera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade7 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Well said. I agree Cane will make noise in 2010 and he and Evans would make for a stellar fight. Mousasi's ranking is debateable' date=' as you've pointed out his average competition level, but I just can't see how this guy isn't one of the next big things. He has fought some stellar names though recently. His last 6 fights have been against - Babalu, Mark Hunt, Jacare (Ronaldo Souza), Melvin Manhoef, Dok Sik Yoon, and Denis Kang. 3 subs, 2 kos, 1 decision. The kid is an animal and he trains with Fedor. The sky is the limit.[/quote'] I agree Mousasi is going to just keep getting better- to have accomplished what he already has at his age is amazing. I think he would have a chance against just about anybody in the UFC at 205. It may be for the best though that he didn't sign with the UFC just yet, so he can continue to gain experience for another year or so before being put in with the top guys in the octagon every fight. Let's hope Dana really makes an effort to sign him next time he becomes available, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I must say you have probably THEE worst ranking system EVER! Mousasi has only fought one at 205' date=' and you can't count the superhulk gp either. The rest of his fights have been at 185. Vitor has been a middleweight since his departure from the UFC back in like 05. How is Wanderlei in a the top ten too with his only recent win over keith jardine. God you suck terribly Machida Rampage Rashad Shogun Anderson Silva Thiago Silva Luiz Cane Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Jon Jones Brandon Vera[/quote'] You've got Bones Jones and Brandon Vera in your list. Take a seat captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 You've got Bones Jones and Brandon Vera in your list. Take a seat captain. Jones- undefeated with wins over Andre Gusmao, Stephan Bonnar and Jake O'brien definitely deserves top ten. Brandon Vera- just beat a very tough Krystof and only has a loss to Keith Jardine at 205. He deserves it too. WAY more then Vitor Belfort..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonson86 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 ill just give you my 1. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Rashad Evans 4. Jon "Bones" Jones 5. Thiago Silva 6. Shogun Rua 7. Dan Henderson 8. Brandon Vera 9. Vitor Belfort 10. Matt Hamill I leave Anderson Silva out due to his weightclass switching, otherwise he'd be top 2 how could you put jon jones 4????? who has he beat that is worth talking about??? I would bet that every one on that list would tear him apart. And Rashad as number three what are you smokin??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I must say you have probably THEE worst ranking system EVER! Mousasi has only fought one at 205' date=' and you can't count the superhulk gp either. The rest of his fights have been at 185. Vitor has been a middleweight since his departure from the UFC back in like 05. How is Wanderlei in a the top ten too with his only recent win over keith jardine. God you suck terribly Machida Rampage Rashad Shogun Anderson Silva Thiago Silva Luiz Cane Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Jon Jones Brandon Vera[/quote'] Mousasi is not going back to MW, so there's no point in ranking him there. He'd easily takeout Luiz Cane, Brandon Vera, Shogun and likely Rashad with ease. Regardless of Wandy's recent losses, he possesses undebateable potential to beat anyone he steps in the ring with. To place Brandon Vera or Jon Jones in front of him, is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Jones- undefeated with wins over Andre Gusmao' date=' Stephan Bonnar and Jake O'brien definitely deserves top ten. Brandon Vera- just beat a very tough Krystof and only has a loss to Keith Jardine at 205. He deserves it too. WAY more then Vitor Belfort.....[/quote'] Belfort, I'll take out. I can concede him. So I'll give you Jones at the 10 spot. Certainly not Vera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshiec1203 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 yeah, no way Vera is top 10. Jones number 10 at best until he beats more people. not saying he doesn't have potential, but he hasn't made it there yet. Machida A Silva (regardless of 185/205 switching) Rampage Shogun (until he loses to Machida) Mousasi Thiago Silva Luis Cane A R Nogiera Evans (until he loses to Rampage) Jon Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade7 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I can't see either Vera or Jones as top 10 right now. Vera's best win at 205 was his decision last Saturday angainst Krzysztof, and he lost a decision to Jardine, neither of whom would be on most sane people's top 10 lists. He hasn't beaten any other top 10 LHW yet, and he better at least take one to a close decision before he gets ranked there. As for Jones, I think he has great potential, but he hasn't fought any top fighters yet and is still inexperienced. If beating Bonnar makes you top 10, then Coleman should be on the list, too. There are too many proven fighters at LHW right now to put Jones in the top ten- yet. Give him another year and I think that will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLegz14 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit' date=' here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida ill just give you my 1. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Rashad Evans 4. Jon "Bones" Jones 5. Thiago Silva 6. Shogun Rua 7. Dan Henderson 8. Brandon Vera 9. Vitor Belfort 10. Matt Hamill I leave Anderson Silva out due to his weightclass switching, otherwise he'd be top 2[/quote'] if ytou are leaving Anderson out then you have to leave out Henderson and Vitor as they are both 185ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I can't see either Vera or Jones as top 10 right now. Vera's best win at 205 was his decision last Saturday angainst Krzysztof' date=' and he lost a decision to Jardine, neither of whom would be on most sane people's top 10 lists. He hasn't beaten any other top 10 LHW yet, and he better at least take one to a close decision before he gets ranked there. As for Jones, I think he has great potential, but he hasn't fought any top fighters yet and is still inexperienced. If beating Bonnar makes you top 10, then Coleman should be on the list, too. There are too many proven fighters at LHW right now to put Jones in the top ten- yet. Give him another year and I think that will change.[/quote'] Exactly - this LittleKang cat is off the wall imo. I was being nice by letting Bones slip onto the list to damper the potential fire....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 if ytou are leaving Anderson out then you have to leave out Henderson and Vitor as they are both 185ers Henderson isn't in my list, but I'll switch him with Belfort to concede. I agree, Vitor probably shouldn't have been on there. Hendo however has fought at 2 classes his entire career, and would have zero problem moving up. I'll sub him with Vitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Sorry, didn't realize your comment was in regards to the bottom part of that post, which wasn't mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machida1 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Pretty consistent lists as far as Machida being one. Rampage being one is at best laughable though. He wouldn't last 3 minutes with Machida. WAAAYYY to slow and one dimesional. I'm not sure he can beat Rashad. That should be a good fight because Dana said those 2 hate each other. Also I think Thiago is to far down on most lists. Remember his only loss was to Machida. I think he could take Rampage or Rashad, and Rua already beat Rampage in one of the worst beatings I've ever seen. But...opinions are like ****s, everyone's got one and they all stink. T1 Machida T1 Silva, A. 3. Silva T. 4. Rua 5. Rashad 6. Rampage 7. Hendo 8. Franklin 9. Mousasi 10. J. Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman747 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Following suit' date=' here's my take on the global LHW situation. 10. Thiago Silva 9. Wanderlei Silva 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 7. Rashad Evans 6. Vitor Belfort 5. Shogun Rua 4. Anderson Silva 3. Gegard Mousasi 2. Rampage Jackson 1. Lyoto Machida ill just give you my 1. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Rashad Evans 4. Jon "Bones" Jones 5. Thiago Silva 6. Shogun Rua 7. Dan Henderson 8. Brandon Vera 9. Vitor Belfort 10. Matt Hamill I leave Anderson Silva out due to his weightclass switching, otherwise he'd be top 2[/quote'] How is Rampage beter than Lyoto Machida, and why odes it matter that Anderson switches weight classes? He's still one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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