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OK so I remember reading about "Rampage" getting a title shot,

If he beat Jardine, he would go on to face Evans.. didn't happen.

If he lost to Jardine (wouldn't have happened), then Machida was to fight Evans.

 

Machida got the belt, now it should be Rampage's turn......

Now Shogun Rua get's a chance?

 

What's going on there?

Who's next after Rua....

 

 

 

/Disgruntled Rampage fan

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OK so I remember reading about "Rampage" getting a title shot' date='

[b']If he beat Jardine, he would go on to face Evans.. didn't happen.[/b]

If he lost to Jardine (wouldn't have happened), then Machida was to fight Evans.

 

Machida got the belt, now it should be Rampage's turn......

Now Shogun Rua get's a chance?

 

What's going on there?

Who's next after Rua....

 

 

 

/Disgruntled Rampage fan

:)

 

He is going to fight Evans at UFC 107, they always have both coaches on the opposite teams fight.

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OK so I remember reading about "Rampage" getting a title shot' date='

If he beat Jardine, he would go on to face Evans.. didn't happen.

If he lost to Jardine (wouldn't have happened), then Machida was to fight Evans.

 

Machida got the belt, now it should be Rampage's turn......

Now Shogun Rua get's a chance?

 

What's going on there?

Who's next after Rua....

 

 

 

/Disgruntled Rampage fan

:)[/quote']

Injured Jaw.

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He is going to fight Evans at UFC 107' date=' they always have both coaches on the opposite teams fight.[/quote']

 

Who knows. Page is going back on his word and I dont want to say he's scared but damn.

 

First he said (before his fight with Jardine) that the title was most important and any matches against rivals or people who beat him could wait' date=' now he switched his tune way up. I dunno.[/quote']

 

You will see rampage on the floor? Since when. Rashad doesn't have close to the power that Wandy and Shogun have and they are the only people to tko/ko rampage, EVER.

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Who knows. Page is going back on his word and I dont want to say he's scared but damn.

 

First he said (before his fight with Jardine) that the title was most important and any matches against rivals or people who beat him could wait' date=' now he switched his tune way up. I dunno.[/quote']

 

I'd love a reference to an article showing this, cuz I have never heard Rampage say this, just the opposite in fact. After his loss to Forrest he clearly stated he wanted another shot at him, title or no title. Then he gets offered Silva and was on it like white on Rice. Then after knocking "the axe murderer" out he stated he wanted Forrest still, who lost his belt on the same night. They throw Jardine at him instead so he fights Jardine. After the Jardine fight Rashad gets in the cage and in Rampage's face saying how bad he is and all. From that point on I do not think anything matters to Rampage other than jamming his fist through Evans' face. He couldn't take the title fight with Evans due to a jaw injury suffered aginst Jardine which required surgery. He can even be seen cheering for Evans during the Evans/Machida fight. Machida wins, and Rampage gets his choice....fight Machida for the title, or coach on TUF against Evans and get a GUARANTEED fight with Rashad. If he takes the Machida fight and wins there is the possibilty he waits years, or never gets the chance to shut Rashad's pie hole. Yet, if he takes the TUF gig and destroys Evans like he wants to, he is guaranteed a title shot anyway. Sacrificing a shot at the title for 6-8 months purely for the sweet satisfaction of putting Evans in his place? Yup.

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You will see rampage on the floor? Since when. Rashad doesn't have close to the power that Wandy and Shogun have and they are the only people to tko/ko rampage' date=' EVER.[/quote']

 

And in both cases Rampage was for all intents and purposes a sideshow...an untrained, raw talent who went against highly trained fighters. Neither Rua or Silva beat Rampage with their fists...Silva beat Rampage with the clinch and a WHOLE LOTTA knees(not to mention the first loss to Silva was on a night where Rampage had a WAR with Liddell earlier in the night), and Rua it was soccer kicks, not legal in the UFC.

 

I would say as far as punching power goes, Evans is close to Wandy, and has more than Rua. Don't matter, I still don't see him winning. I think we see a bit of the Rampage of old in this coming fight, combined with some new Rampage, meaning the old nasty GnP(which he has yet to employ in the UFC) with vastly improved standup. No scorecards in this one.

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And in both cases Rampage was for all intents and purposes a sideshow...an untrained' date=' raw talent who went against highly trained fighters. Neither Rua or Silva beat Rampage with their fists...Silva beat Rampage with the clinch and a WHOLE LOTTA knees(not to mention the first loss to Silva was on a night where Rampage had a WAR with Liddell earlier in the night), and Rua it was soccer kicks, not legal in the UFC.

 

I would say as far as punching power goes, Evans is close to Wandy, and has more than Rua. Don't matter, I still don't see him winning. I think we see a bit of the Rampage of old in this coming fight, combined with some new Rampage, meaning the old nasty GnP(which he has yet to employ in the UFC) with vastly improved standup. No scorecards in this one.[/quote']

 

actually I'm gonna disagree witht he soccer kicks statement. Shogun Beat rampage with knees the same way Silva did. He broke the mans ribs with them. The Soccer kicks were just the exclamation point. Once Rampages ribs were broke the fight was over and his corner should have thrown in the towel. MMA is really lucky that Rampage wasn't killed or seriously injured that night.

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OK so I remember reading about "Rampage" getting a title shot' date='

If he beat Jardine, he would go on to face Evans.. didn't happen.

If he lost to Jardine (wouldn't have happened), then Machida was to fight Evans.

 

Machida got the belt, now it should be Rampage's turn......

Now Shogun Rua get's a chance?

 

What's going on there?

Who's next after Rua....

 

 

 

/Disgruntled Rampage fan

:)[/quote']

 

You're kidding right?

 

You did know that after Rampage beat Jardine, he and Rashad were talking trash to each other. Well Rashad was and that pissed off Rampage that he gave up his shot to go after Rashad at TUF 10 as coaches and will fight Rashad at UFC 107, so I hear that figt may be postponed?

 

So that why Shogun has the shot now. He is the next contender,

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I'd love a reference to an article showing this' date=' cuz I have never heard Rampage say this, just the opposite in fact. After his loss to Forrest he clearly stated he wanted another shot at him, title or no title. Then he gets offered Silva and was on it like white on Rice. Then after knocking "the axe murderer" out he stated he wanted Forrest still, who lost his belt on the same night. They throw Jardine at him instead so he fights Jardine. After the Jardine fight Rashad gets in the cage and in Rampage's face saying how bad he is and all. From that point on I do not think anything matters to Rampage other than jamming his fist through Evans' face. He couldn't take the title fight with Evans due to a jaw injury suffered aginst Jardine which required surgery. He can even be seen cheering for Evans during the Evans/Machida fight. Machida wins, and Rampage gets his choice....fight Machida for the title, or coach on TUF against Evans and get a GUARANTEED fight with Rashad. If he takes the Machida fight and wins there is the possibilty he waits years, or never gets the chance to shut Rashad's pie hole. Yet, if he takes the TUF gig and destroys Evans like he wants to, he is guaranteed a title shot anyway. Sacrificing a shot at the title for 6-8 months purely for the sweet satisfaction of putting Evans in his place? Yup.[/quote']

 

Damn, couldn't have said it better myself.

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actually I'm gonna disagree witht he soccer kicks statement. Shogun Beat rampage with knees the same way Silva did. He broke the mans ribs with them. The Soccer kicks were just the exclamation point. Once Rampages ribs were broke the fight was over and his corner should have thrown in the towel. MMA is really lucky that Rampage wasn't killed or seriously injured that night.

 

Yeah, well the point was neither had KO power in their fists that take him out. They both employed an attack Rampage is better trained to defend against now than he was then. His other glaring weakness back then was his inability/unwillingness to check leg kicks which he still hasn't changed.

 

Your point on the soccer kicks is valid...its like saying Griffin won the standup battle with Rampage.....might be close to true, but only becasue Griffin took Rampage's lead leg from him with the nasty kicks, uncontested. Had Rampage reverted to his PRIDE GnP style once his leg was gone against Griffin I think the 205Lb division looks alot different right now.

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I'd love a reference to an article showing this' date=' cuz I have never heard Rampage say this, just the opposite in fact. After his loss to Forrest he clearly stated he wanted another shot at him, title or no title. Then he gets offered Silva and was on it like white on Rice. Then after knocking "the axe murderer" out he stated he wanted Forrest still, who lost his belt on the same night. They throw Jardine at him instead so he fights Jardine. After the Jardine fight Rashad gets in the cage and in Rampage's face saying how bad he is and all. From that point on I do not think anything matters to Rampage other than jamming his fist through Evans' face. He couldn't take the title fight with Evans due to a jaw injury suffered aginst Jardine which required surgery. He can even be seen cheering for Evans during the Evans/Machida fight. Machida wins, and Rampage gets his choice....fight Machida for the title, or coach on TUF against Evans and get a GUARANTEED fight with Rashad. If he takes the Machida fight and wins there is the possibilty he waits years, or never gets the chance to shut Rashad's pie hole. Yet, if he takes the TUF gig and destroys Evans like he wants to, he is guaranteed a title shot anyway. Sacrificing a shot at the title for 6-8 months purely for the sweet satisfaction of putting Evans in his place? Yup.[/quote']

 

As the titleholder he could have hand picked Evans to fight just like Liddell did Jeremy Horn. And the UFC brass would gladly go along with it because a lot of people would want to see that fight.

 

he ducked it to coach tuf 10

 

He ducked it, alright. I think watching the brutal, one-sided beating that Evans took at UFC98 gave him flashbacks of his pride fights with Wandy and Shogun, and he wanted none of it until someone else figures out Machida.

 

I could, possibly, buy the whole TUF 10 for the dollars over a title fight arguement, if the UFC brass asked for it. That does make sense. BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, Rampage has been thanking God in Heaven every day for this excuse to hide behind.

 

Not because he's not a top contender. Not because he's afraid of Machida.

 

But because stylistically, he is a very poor matchup. That alone puts him at a great disadvantage, and to his credit, he is very aware of it.

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OK so I remember reading about "Rampage" getting a title shot' date='

If he beat Jardine, he would go on to face Evans.. didn't happen.

If he lost to Jardine (wouldn't have happened), then Machida was to fight Evans.

 

Machida got the belt, now it should be Rampage's turn......

Now Shogun Rua get's a chance?

 

What's going on there?

Who's next after Rua....

 

 

 

/Disgruntled Rampage fan

:)[/quote']

 

rampage refused the title shot.. so they gave it to Shogun..

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he was next in line for the shot but chose to take evans first and coach against him in TUF 10

 

This is the answer to the original post. ^^^

 

Rampage had the next title shot and suggested that he and Evans coach and Dana White loved the idea. Bought Rampage some time to study Lyoto and he genuinely seems to dislike Evans. Win / win for everyone.

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