pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 If you were training for MMA which style would you use? Also which styles do you think are the best recipe for winning in the UFC. (Boxing, Kickboxing, Muai Thai...etc.) (wrestling, BJJ, Judo....) first post so be easy on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_Omega Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 All of it? I have a Judo and Muay Thai background myself but I don't think anything is specifically the best style in MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 If you were training for MMA which style would you use? Also which styles do you think are the best recipe for winning in the UFC. (Boxing' date=' Kickboxing, Muai Thai...etc.) (wrestling, BJJ, Judo....) first post so be easy on me[/quote'] The answer lies in the term "MMA." It is a mixture of different styles. "Mixed" martial arts. Welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 well i know you should train in all aspects of the game but i meant to say as your foundation, your main weapon. (Koscheck-wrestling, BJ Penn-BJJ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, BJJ in no particular order. Master all 4 of these and you can maybe hang with Anderson Silva. Haha. Just my opinion. There are tons of amazing disciplines, but I'd say you'd want solid core in grappling (judo) and striking (muay thai). Wrestling, boxing, pancrase......learn as much as you possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 well i know you should train in all aspects of the game but i meant to say as your foundation' date=' your main weapon. (Koscheck-wrestling, BJ Penn-BJJ)[/quote'] I think wrestling is a good base. Add some JJ then some striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_Omega Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Judo' date=' Muay Thai, Karate, BJJ in no particular order. Master all 4 of these and you can maybe hang with Anderson Silva. Haha. Just my opinion. There are tons of amazing disciplines, but I'd say you'd want solid core in grappling (judo) and striking (muay thai). Wrestling, boxing, pancrase......learn as much as you possibly can.[/quote'] Anderson is a black belt in Taekwondo, Judo and BJJ. If they gave belts in Muay Thai, he'd be a black belt there, too. LOL. That's scary to even think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I think Muay Thai with BJJ and a wrestling base is the best style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Whatever your most comfortable with and whatever suits your body type and athletic abilities best should probably be your foundation. but if you don't train in all areas you get crushed and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I think wrestling is a good base. Add some JJ then some striking. As this guy pointed out, there are numerous ways to approach it. It's all about what you're best at/suited to also. You gotta figure that out for yourself I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 when it comes to fighting in MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, the best form to use is sticking to 1 thing. MIXED MARTIAL ARTS is all about which style is the best. combining arts isn't the best. stick with 1. 1 thing wins MIXED MARTIAL ARTS sorry couldn't resist =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I know MMA is mixed martial arts and you need to train in all phases of the game, but i was trying to say what is the best foundation for a fighter. Everyone trains in all aspects of the games but they still have their bread and butter they go back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I know MMA is mixed martial arts and you need to train in all phases of the game' date=' but i was trying to say what is the best foundation for a fighter. Everyone trains in all aspects of the games but they still have their bread and butter they go back to.[/quote'] You have to determine that yourself. Whether it's wrestling, boxing, muay thai, karate....it's whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiglow Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I know MMA is mixed martial arts and you need to train in all phases of the game' date=' but i was trying to say what is the best foundation for a fighter. Everyone trains in all aspects of the games but they still have their bread and butter they go back to.[/quote'] Wrestling as a background is a very solid start. Something with a ground game. Anyone can have a stand up game that's decent, but if you have no ground game at all, you're done for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 ALA Cheick Kongo at UFC 99 or Thiago Silva against GSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Wrestling as a background is a very solid start. Something with a ground game. Anyone can have a stand up game that's decent' date=' but if you have no ground game at all, you're done for.[/quote'] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFaceHurts Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Wrestling as a background is a very solid start. Something with a ground game. Anyone can have a stand up game that's decent' date=' but if you have no ground game at all, you're done for.[/quote'] I have always heard wrestlers have an easier transition to mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 yeah wrestling seems to be the easiest way to get into mma but you need a striking game somehow to be really successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 There have been fighters who excelled in MMA that had solid foundations in all different styles. There is no one "best " foundation style.Your foundation style doesn't really matter if you don't have well rounded skills in all styles. Case in point- Royce Gracie v. Matt Hughes and more recently Demian Maia v Nate Marquadt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calabretta_GSP Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 my primary styles would be kickboxing and bjj or wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 If you do kickboxing...you need great takedown defense or great jiu jitsu. I would do Muay Thai and guerilla jiu jitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 for what i seen this is what i would do if i ever wanted to be a profesional fighter 1 wrestling - determine where the fights goes 2 Muay Thai- striking and finishing fights standing 3 bjj- defense from submissions and also you are able to finish fights on te ground With those 3 you can pretty much be a decent fighter... also any top mma fighter are good at those 3 disciplines Now if you really want to be the best then kickboxing , boxing ,judo ,karate, sambo are a plus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wing_chun Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 if you could only pick two (ring styles) i would go with Muai thai and BJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I have found it- the future of martial arts! Machida-do karate has nothing on this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuigcXvcy1A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 thank you for finding that video...hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mambo123 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Muay Thai and BJJ for sure. Anderson Silva and Machida are like ninja's, so I'd do whatever they do. Maybe throw a bit of Karate/Muay Thai mix for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wing_chun Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I have found it- the future of martial arts! Machida-do karate has nothing on this!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuigcXvcy1A that guy is a tool lol he talks ninjitsu, judo and karate chops haha funny stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 judy chops and ninji chops and his ninji star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropic_Thunder Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Seems like everyone on this thread has it right. Guys need to be well rounded and need to also focus on their strengths. Just a few words on the different styles. The grappling styles seem to be the most important. (wrestling, BJJ, and Judo) Fighters need to work on their standup, but a great grappler can get by with average standup in boxing, kickboxing, and mui tai and now Karate. A great standup guy with average grappling will rarely advance to greatness. (Machida has great grappling, so don't start) We see lots of wrestlers in MMA. Why is this? I ask retorically. Well their are tens of thousands of wrestlers in the USA alone, and the ones that rise to the top and become MMA stars are the cream of the crop athletically and probably more important mentally. Wrestling is a gruelling sport and the tournament atnosphere and training those guys go through for no potential million dollar payoff - like basketball or football makes the guys that stick around the truly hardcore. The style itself is a great base, but has many holes that need to be filled. In the UFC today champions whose primary discipline is Wrestling include GSP and Lesnar. BJJ also dominates MMA. But by itself its vulnerable. I;m not gonna use the Marquart/Maiai match cause we only really saw one punch. A good example is former tuf fighter Vincente magdalinas, a many time world bjj champion. HIs MMA career has sputtered since the show because he can't strike with anyone good, and can;t take guys down and no one is stupid enough to go into his guard. Notables that use BJJ as their primary discipline include BJ Pen and Anderson Silva, but in todays MMA everyone must study it. Judo is under represented but Parisyan and Nick Diaz were great standard barers for the sport, I hope to see judo gold medalist Satoshi Ishi advance the cause of Judo the same way Machida advanced the cause of Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddievanhalen3 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Bjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewars Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Seems like everyone on this thread has it right. Guys need to be well rounded and need to also focus on their strengths. Just a few words on the different styles. The grappling styles seem to be the most important. (wrestling' date=' BJJ, and Judo) Fighters need to work on their standup, but a great grappler can get by with average standup in boxing, kickboxing, and mui tai and now Karate. A great standup guy with average grappling will rarely advance to greatness. (Machida has great grappling, so don't start) We see lots of wrestlers in MMA. Why is this? I ask retorically. Well their are tens of thousands of wrestlers in the USA alone, and the ones that rise to the top and become MMA stars are the cream of the crop athletically and probably more important mentally. Wrestling is a gruelling sport and the tournament atnosphere and training those guys go through for no potential million dollar payoff - like basketball or football makes the guys that stick around the truly hardcore. The style itself is a great base, but has many holes that need to be filled. In the UFC today champions whose primary discipline is Wrestling include GSP and Lesnar. BJJ also dominates MMA. But by itself its vulnerable. I;m not gonna use the Marquart/Maiai match cause we only really saw one punch. A good example is former tuf fighter Vincente magdalinas, a many time world bjj champion. HIs MMA career has sputtered since the show because he can't strike with anyone good, and can;t take guys down and no one is stupid enough to go into his guard. Notables that use BJJ as their primary discipline include BJ Pen and Anderson Silva, but in todays MMA everyone must study it. Judo is under represented but Parisyan and Nick Diaz were great standard barers for the sport, I hope to see judo gold medalist Satoshi Ishi advance the cause of Judo the same way Machida advanced the cause of Karate.[/quote'] very nice. I agree with you 100% If i was training for MMA, id make sure i had great grappling skills and then work on my striking. Look at Koscheck, all he had was wrestling and he was able to succeed for awhile while working on striking. His striking is ever improving and i think he will be a player in ww for a few more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropic_Thunder Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Seems like everyone on this thread has it right. Guys need to be well rounded and need to also focus on their strengths. Just a few words on the different styles. The grappling styles seem to be the most important. (wrestling, BJJ, and Judo) Fighters need to work on their standup, but a great grappler can get by with average standup in boxing, kickboxing, and mui tai are and now Karate. A great standup guy with average grappling will rarely advance to greatness. (Machida has great grappling, so don't start) We see lots of wrestlers in MMA. Why is this? I ask retorically. Well their are tens of thousands of wrestlers in the USA alone, and the ones that rise to the top and become MMA stars are the cream of the crop athletically and probably more important mentally. Wrestling is gruelling sport and the tournament atnosphere and training those guys go through for no potential million dollar payoff - like basketball or football makes the guys that stick around the truly hardcore. The style itself is a great base, but has many holes that need to be filled. In the UFC today champions whose primary discipline is Wrestling include GSP and Lesnar. BJJ also dominates MMA. But by itself its vulnerable. I;m not gonna use the Marquart/Maiai match cause we only really saw one punch. A good example is former tuf fighter Vincente magdalinas. HIs MMA career has sputtered since the show because he can't strike with anyone good, and can;t take guys down and no one is stupid enough to go into his guard. Notables that use BJJ as their primary discipline include BJ Pen and Anderson Silva, but in todays MMA everyone must study it. Judo is under represented but Parisyan and Nick Diaz were great standard barers for the sport, I hope to see judo gold medalist Satoshi Ishi advance the cause of Judo the same way Machida advanced the cause of Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedragonslayer7 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Kickboxing and wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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