yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 machida vs shogun2 at 106 how come they don't make fight happen cause if you hear them they said they will fight any where anytime it would be perfect for ufc and maybe dana white would see this thread and make it happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 good thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 this would be perfect thing for ufc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 plus carwin and lesnar step out so this would be perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
casper1128 1 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 lame thread, and idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 no this would be perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo_UFC1406051762 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 good thread good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCoon 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 wont happen, too soon, machida will need time to recover and either will want more to to devise a strategy to not absorb as much damage to his legs as he did in this last fight, he is going to have to win convincingly this time, because another fight like that one will have to go to shogun because they wont have dumb **** judges next time, not to mention cecil peoples Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSP4MVP 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't there another thread about this topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSP4MVP 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 machida vs shogun2 at 106 how come they don't make fight happen cause if you hear them they said they will fight any where anytime it would be perfect for ufc and maybe dana white would see this thread and make it happen You ever hear of recovery time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yup121406051950 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 no they will get a months rest if u rember people from old ufc fought every other day and never complained i think these fighters have to much rest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
casper1128 1 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 depending on the damege they took during the fight, all fighters recieve medical suspensions after the fight i believe. shogun and machida didnt do much damage to each other so i would guess a week at the most. but this fight wont happen till next year at the earliest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jibbinstien 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Its a great idea but, I cant see it happening that soon. Maybe Henderson vs. Nate the Great. Though i feel either one of them deserve a shoot against Silva before Vitor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
casper1128 1 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 example: florian was suspended for 45 days after his loss to penn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boogieman72 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 shogun never earned a title match in the ufc, and he sure dont deserve a re-match, just let this go, and maybe we can see what anderson silva has in store for shogun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saints5150 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Did you see the damage that both of these guys took? Not even just Machida. Do you think internal bruising and destroyed muscles would repair by November? None the less time to repair and recondition. Anyone that thinks this is even a possibility is a moron. This isn't football. This isn't a sport that can be done weekly like your fake wrestling. Nor could it even be done monthly. Let them recover. Let them re-train. Lets see who has the heart of a champion. Who comes back and decides that they refuse to lose a round. They are both ready and willing. I understand alot of people were upset. But when a score is 48-47, it can lean either way. Not a judge hardly anywhere didn't give Machida 2 rounds. With how close some were, it wouldn't be too outside to say Machida coulda stole one by stuffng takedowns and keeping position in the center of the ring (did say steal btw). Its not a big deal. I've watch MMA for years. If you let someone make the decision for you, they don't see the same thing as you or everyone else for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saints5150 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 no they will get a months rest if u rember people from old ufc fought every other day and never complained i think these fighters have to much rest yeah in case you hadn't noticed, old UFC failed miserably. It took Dana giving it some rules and guidelines to give it the structure of a competitive sport. Did you see Matt Hughes and Gracie? I don't care if Gracie is old. Matt in his prime would have still destroyed Gracie at any point in his career. Younger and more trained talent are rubbing out old fighters all the time. Old ufc was lame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlLane 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 IDK there was no significant damage expressed by either fighter, but it certainly looked like there could have been to Machida as he had the more damaging strikes inflicted on him. I would love to see it that soon ONLY if they were both physically ready for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatBoy23 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 What about at UFC 108?? Have Machida fight alongside his friend Anderson Silva.. Silva and Vitor suppose to headline UFC 108 in January if I'm not mistaken. What a way to start a new year for the UFC to have Silva vs. Belfort and Machida vs. Shogun 2. Roughly 3 months time to recover... thats pretty good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge008 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 You ever hear of recovery time? Your right i was about to say it meself but it would be good to happen but machidas too beat up to even walk lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_Shoguns_Rampage 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 No way will this happen as everybody has said it would be less than a month to train and recover but Gsp should be ready to go...it would be nice to see him fight somebody anybody really or Silva and Nate marquardt but he just fought so...Lets get Gsp in there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karate_Cowboy 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 wont happen' date=' too soon, machida will need time to recover and either will want more to to devise a strategy to not absorb as much damage to his legs as he did in this last fight, he is going to have to win convincingly this time, because another fight like that one will have to go to shogun because they wont have dumb **** judges next time, not to mention cecil peoples[/quote'] agree with this. as much as i want to see this as soon as possible its way to soon with as much damage as machida took Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_Mac 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Not a very good idea...Dana will have to put some other option in that slot. Machida and Rua need ample time to recover/train/strategize. 2 fight cards in between a title match up isnt enough, or fair for both fighters. I understand that you want Rua to win asap, but its just not gunna happen. The rematch will probably be next year...probably after UFC 108...(would be sweet if it was 108 huh?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 The rematch should be in Australia in February! If not this one, then the Brock fight in Australis! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nasTn8 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Folks - I want to see this rematch as much as all of you, but let's not put the cart before the horse. These guys aren't the barroom brawlers of the old UFC. These guys are ATHLETES, and the only time it's worth watching these guys compete is when they're BOTH fully prepared. Now, having said that, I think Machida owes (and wants) a rematch. UFC 108 sounds like a bang up idea if they can both be ready in that time. I don't think Shogun needs to prove his worth with a warm up fight, and I think even die hard Machida fans would agree. Also, both of these guys are elite, and will be ready earlier than most UFC fighters, especially, when you consider the limited damage both guys endured. This will be an epic rematch, and if Dana can put together a great card for the event, it will be even more historic. Saturday was a GREAT fight, and I can't wait for these two guys to get after it one more time! Let's just make sure they're both ready to go, or the fight will be lame! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRED7 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 month is more then enuogh to recover, if Lyoto's legs need more time, that says a lot about the outcome of the first match. They shouldnt have the time to develop too much of a new game plan, recover, and then fight again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimboCon 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 shogun never earned a title match in the ufc' date=' and he sure dont deserve a re-match, just let this go, and maybe we can see what anderson silva has in store for shogun.[/quote'] this is the smartest thing i have ever seen on these forums. shogun beat old man river and barely beat olderman river to get a shot at the undefeated champion and then lost unanimously. not seeing the deserving of a title match. because dana white is having his period over the judging. waaaaaaaaaaa suck it up and move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenpo 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 this is the smartest thing i have ever seen on these forums. shogun beat old man river and barely beat olderman river to get a shot at the undefeated champion and then lost unanimously. not seeing the deserving of a title match. because dana white is having his period over the judging. waaaaaaaaaaa suck it up and move on. I agree that Shogun's previous performances in the UFC did not warrant a title shot but his performance in the title shot qualifies him for another won. Compare his fight against Machida with everyone else who couldn't touch him and Shogun is at the top of the heap. To those that think a month recovery is enough time- you are not well informed. The fighters bust their cans in training (usually enduring minor injury there too) and then enter the fight. Almost every fighter will indicate that they take a week or so after a fight to rest if there were no injuries. Then they can begin normal training again. Machida's injuries wouldn't prevent him from training but would effect him in sparring and drills. The UFC should set this fight up as soon as it would be practical and fair to both fighters. The last thing they need is another decision that viewers have a reason to think it was unfair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juzie 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 The rematch should be in Australia in February! If not this one' date=' then the Brock fight in Australis![/quote'] +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedorp4pking 3 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 machida vs shogun2 at 106 how come they don't make fight happen cause if you hear them they said they will fight any where anytime it would be perfect for ufc and maybe dana white would see this thread and make it happen Machida needs more time to recover.... His legs and ribs are all bruised up.. and he has a pretty cute scar on his face that he just got stitched.. as for shogun i think he has a small mouse under his eye.. and people say machida won.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
