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Please note this fight is live in parts of the world and tape delay in North America, therefore this thread may contain spoilers.

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Randy looks like a clear favourite. And if he loses.... hmm, it will be quite bad for him. People will start nagging him about his age and ending his career.

So I hope he destroys Vera.

 

Randy is cutting weight. He'll enter the cage at around 215lbs. Very interesting.

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Randy wins this' date=' this will be Randy's easiest victory mark my words, he may even ktfo Vera[/size']

 

He won't finish Vera IMO, he could pull out a decision, but will not KO him.

 

I personally have Vera taking a UD

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I think if Vera doesn't fight agressivley and finish Randy with strikes he is going to lose a UD or get finished on the ground. Could go either way, but I'm hoping Randy can defy his age once again and get the win. :)

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If the Vera that has been so lackluster lately shows up, Couture will finish him. However, I am worrying that an aggressive, smart Vera might show up with a good game plan, which could be trouble. My $ are on Couture, so I'm hoping that doesn't happen. Wow did I say that. Is this what happens to you when you start betting? I've got to stop so I can enjoy good fights again.

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really hoping Vera comes in shape & fights AGGRESSIVE. needs to keep his length on display w/ Sharp Kicks!

 

Couture might just bang him out tho, Takedowns, G&P to the win. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Let's go Vera? time to make a move to the top if thats where you want to be.

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I have Vera by decision' date=' wouldn't surprise me if he gets the finish though.[/quote']

 

this is a free fight for Randy, dana is feeding vera to him in hopes Randy makes a LHW run for the title

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this is a free fight for Randy' date=' dana is feeding vera to him in hopes Randy makes a LHW run for the title[/quote']

 

I really hope Randy wins this one, but no way is Vera an easy fight for him. Randy is realistically coming into this fight as a slight underdog.

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I really hope Randy wins this one' date=' but no way is Vera an easy fight for him. Randy is realistically coming into this fight as a slight underdog.[/quote']

 

lol you guys are all delirious

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Why?

 

vera lost to jardine and to Tim Sylvia ( in 2007)

 

thats when Randy whooped big Tim for the belt

 

so randy beat Tim like 7 months after vera lost to Sylvia

 

then Randy went on to beat up Gonzaga

 

Brandon went on to get tko by Werdum

 

and then he beat mike patt(whoopty ****in doo)

 

and won a close decision imo against Krystoff

 

Vera has shown nothing to say he could beat Randy

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vera lost to jardine and to Tim Sylvia ( in 2007)

 

thats when Randy whooped big Tim for the belt

 

so randy beat Tim like 7 months after vera lost to Sylvia

 

then Randy went on to beat up Gonzaga

 

Brandon went on to get tko by Werdum

 

and then he beat mike patt(whoopty ****in doo)

 

and won a close decision imo against Krystoff

 

Vera has shown nothing to say he could beat Randy

 

Ah, MMA maths...

 

Well, I think Randy obviously has the edge in experience. And I believe he's one of the smartest fighters in the business, and has a superior mental game to Vera, as well as better wrestling and conditioning.

 

But to counter that, you have Vera's advantage in speed, reach, striking, and BJJ.

 

I think it's really a very close fight. But all in all, even though I haven't been tremendously impressed by Vera's performance so far at 205, I'd still give him the edge. I hope Randy proves me wrong tomorrow (and I did pick Randy to win on fantasy, because I like him too much to pick against him- but I do have to be realistic when I try to analyze the fight!)

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I'm not saying he can't do it, but does anyone honestly see Randy ever finishing a fight again? I mean, it seems all of his fights lately are active fights for both guys, and though he might not let his opponent get much done, he won't either.

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i still find this one rather hard to be accurate with. Vera has been less then impressive with his LHW career imo. he is getting the names to stay afloat, but isnt showing any great skill in his fights. he hasnt been able to overpower anyone except for Mike Patt. in his fight with Kryz, he looked focused, but wasnt executing properly. he seemed to be quick, but lacked in head movement and footwork. just standing there and attacking when he felt the time right. not to mention that some of the time spent in the fight was in the clinch and Vera didnt look dominate there either. Couture is a clinch specialist. his boxing isnt bad either. he just lacks finishing power and has a questionable chin right now. if Couture can cut the cage and get inside of Vera to clinch with him and put him in the cage... i could see Couture taking him down constantly, use some dirty boxing, and eventually come out with the decision. one could make the argument that Vera could sub him on the ground, but.... i dont see that happening if Nog couldnt do it.

 

my pick of the bat was Vera by TKO... mainly focusing on how Nog worked him. however, taking a step back, i think it is more even then it seems.

 

Strength - hard to say. Veras size could commend his strength. assuming he uses it right. i am going to give this to Couture though.

Wrestling - Couture

Striking - Vera, though i wouldnt say Couture is bad.

Cardio - Couture

Conditioning - Couture

BJJ - offensively goes to Vera. defensively i will say is even.

Size/Reach - Vera

Power - Vera even though it doesnt look like much.

Accuracy - Vera

Chin - Vera

Clinch - Couture

Speed - Vera

 

.... initially i thought Vera, then i flopped and thought that Randy has a real good chance. HOWEVER, i am going to go with Vera by TKO in the 2nd round.

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I think the outcome will have more to do with Vera's head than Randy's ability. If Vera shakes the nerves he will surely have and strike like we all know he can, this could be a very short night for Randy. My heart says Randy, my wallet says Vera.

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vera lost to jardine and to Tim Sylvia ( in 2007)

 

thats when Randy whooped big Tim for the belt

 

so randy beat Tim like 7 months after vera lost to Sylvia

 

then Randy went on to beat up Gonzaga does no one remember that when he slamed Gonzaga that he broke his nose with a head butt??? that wasted him right away

 

Brandon went on to get tko by Werdum We all know thr ref f ucked it up.

 

and then he beat mike patt(whoopty ****in doo)

 

and won a close decision imo against Krystoff LOL @ close decision....what fight were u watching???

 

Vera has shown nothing to say he could beat Randy

 

Vera will win. ur full of horse piss

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i like randy a lot but i have to go with vera this time.vera is a good striker(maybe not agressive),he is accurate and have devastating leg kicks.he also has a good takedown defense wherein he can prevent the wrestling skills and gnp of randy.this will be a good fight because i can see randy using his dirty boxing and clinch techniques wherein he's known to be dangerous,and vera will use his muay thai.vera needs to push this fight atleast to the 3rd,then he has a chance of finishing this one.

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I don't have a prediction for this fight... I know the AMAZING skills both these men posessed. Randy's got some amazing Greco-Roman wrestling and devestating boxing, and Brandon's got great Muay Thai kickboxing skills.

 

I guess I am leaning towards Brandon Vera... Awww, I don't know. If Randy can get him on the ground, it could be Randy.

 

The standup goes to Vera, but the grappling goes to Couture.

 

Close fight, and a good choice on Joe Silva's part to match them up.

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Couture is more well done than the burnt steak at Kimbos Back yard pool party. Seriously the commission needs to tell Couture to just give it up... Hes soo washed up already. He reminds me of Rocky Balboa in his latest film.

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I don't have a prediction for this fight... I know the AMAZING skills both these men posessed. Randy's got some amazing Greco-Roman wrestling and devestating boxing' date=' and Brandon's got great Muay Thai kickboxing skills.

 

I guess I am leaning towards Brandon Vera... Awww, I don't know. If Randy can get him on the ground, it could be Randy.

 

The standup goes to Vera, but the grappling goes to Couture.

 

Close fight, and a good choice on Joe Silva's part to match them up.[/quote']

 

Vera also has good Greco Roman wrestling though.

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Vera will win tko 2nd. Maybe because of kicks or by elbows. wait and see. ;)

 

we need vera in a parlay w/ pacquiao bigtime, :eek:

we had him vs jardine also, :(

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Vera wrestling is nowhere near the caliber of Randy's, and in the clinch Randy's dirty boxing and threat of greco will nullify the Thai boxing. I think Vera's chance is going to be a staying on the outside and picking Randy apart. If he comes in with the right mindset and plan it could happen. If not he'll be mauled.

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I think Vera is coming to catch him. Don't exactly have the feeling, but I'm thinking it's going to happen. When I first heard of this fight I got the feeling Couture was going to dominate it with take downs all night. Hopefully that wont happen.

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Ah' date=' MMA maths...

 

Well, I think Randy obviously has the edge in experience. And I believe he's one of the smartest fighters in the business, and has a superior mental game to Vera, as well as better wrestling and conditioning.

 

But to counter that, you have Vera's advantage in speed, reach, striking, and BJJ.

 

I think it's really a very close fight. But all in all, even though I haven't been tremendously impressed by Vera's performance so far at 205, I'd still give him the edge. I hope Randy proves me wrong tomorrow (and I did pick Randy to win on fantasy, because I like him too much to pick against him- but I do have to be realistic when I try to analyze the fight!)[/quote']

 

mmamaths lol.........well Einstein, what skills did Vera show in his loss to Sylvia compared to Randys skills in his win over Sylvia that show Vera should win

 

It is of course about skill sets and how fighters match up, but seriously what better than a common opponent to see how they match up ?

 

Veras length will give Randy trouble>? doubt it since Randy could handle Sylvias reach

 

and is it mmamaths to state how vera lost to lesser opponents than opponents Randy beat

 

the only person hes beat that is top 10 is Mir and thats when Mir returned after the wreck and even Marciano Cruz beat the sh it out of him.

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I think Vera is coming to catch him. Don't exactly have the feeling' date=' but I'm thinking it's going to happen. When I first heard of this fight I got the feeling Couture was going to dominate it with take downs all night. Hopefully that wont happen.[/quote']

 

agree.

 

I bet on vera because I like vera, and I want him to win.

 

but realistically I see couture scoring multiple take downs and smothering vera against the cage for 3 rounds winning a decision. *sigh*

 

I want to see vera go back to his finishing ways.

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what notable fighter has Vera rocked' date=' Randy beat up Gonzaga for Petes sake

 

Randy is going to DOMINATE[/quote']

 

mir.

 

I think mir is overrated, but alot of posters here seem to think he has skill, and he got raped by a vera who was 20 pounds lighter than him in the second round.

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