K22UFC Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Do you think that he can get back to the top of the division again after the Anderson Silva fight. He has already bounced back well against Tito Ortiz but it will be hard for him to become a true challenger again any time soon after being destroyed so badly. He went from the top to the bottom so quickly. He had just beaten Shogun and Rampage in a row and then got knocked out twice. If he loses to Rogerio Nogueira then I think his days as a contender in the division are over but if he wins then he will be back on track. If he can follow a win over Nogueira with a win over someone like Rich Franklin then he might be only one win away from a title shot. Do you think he has a chance of ever becoming the LHW champ again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiech Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I like Forrest as a fighter. He's got that persona that just makes you laugh whenever has a interview, a down to earth guy and I have never heard him trashtalk.. But I hate to say it, but it feels like Forrest has taken over Jardines place as a "gatekeeper" in the Light Heavyweight division, but he definetly got the heart and the talent to make him a top contender again... Like Dana White said after the Shogun fight "Never count Forrest Griffin out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K22UFC Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I like Forrest as a fighter. He's got that persona that just makes you laugh whenever has a interview' date=' a down to earth guy and I have never heard him trashtalk.. But I hate to say it, but it feels like Forrest has taken over Jardines place as a "gatekeeper" in the Light Heavyweight division, but he definetly got the heart and the talent to make him a top contender again... Like Dana White said after the Shogun fight [i']"Never count Forrest Griffin out"[/i] Ya, I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 he can do it but it's whether he will or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStandard Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 probably not, but id be happy to see him take another run at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i think he will be a contender but never champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jng1 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i'd be surprised if he ever got another title shot let alone won the belt again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenlee1 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I hope he can get back in there and not just become a gate keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i think he can become champion again you guys have ot remember he always fights his best as the underdog and he has the habit of proving everyone wrong so i think he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos13 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think he'll do it. I'm sure he'll get at least one more title shot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShangTsung Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 like most guys here i think hes a great fighter but sadly enough i think the glory days for forrest are over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmdsounddotcom Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I said yes, forest is my boyfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightsAreCool Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I say he doesnt I don't see forrest getting past lil nog and I dont see him beating shogun again I also dont see him beating any of the top guys like thiago silva, randy couture, rashad, or layoto machida an rich franklin is a MW if they were to fight I don't see forrest winning that fight either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I like Forrest as a fighter. He's got that persona that just makes you laugh whenever has a interview' date=' a down to earth guy and I have never heard him trashtalk.. But I hate to say it, but it feels like Forrest has taken over Jardines place as a "gatekeeper" in the Light Heavyweight division, but he definetly got the heart and the talent to make him a top contender again... Like Dana White said after the Shogun fight [i']"Never count Forrest Griffin out"[/i] +1 If he can make it past LilNog a fight with Thiago Silva should put him back on top of the LHW division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunchBag Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 How can so many people be counting forrest out now after 2 losses?? i mean come on it was close in the rashad fight until he got dropped. Also the other one was agaisnt A Silva so that excusable. I reckon he will probably get another title shot maybe a few more. Sure the competition has increased with machida,shogun,jones,little nog but forrest is still forrest and will probably find a way to win fights with a few of em again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFan325 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 It's not that Forrest isn't good enough for another title shot, he just simply won't be able to beat the champ. Machida would wreck Forrest almost as bad as Silva did, and if Machida ever lost his belt, I bet A. Silva would be first in line to hold two belts at the same time, and we all know Forrest should not step into the Octagon with him again, especially for a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K22UFC Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I say he doesnt I don't see forrest getting past lil nog and I dont see him beating shogun again I also dont see him beating any of the top guys like thiago silva' date=' randy couture, rashad, or layoto machida [b'] an rich franklin is a MW[/b] if they were to fight I don't see forrest winning that fight either He isnt a middleweight anymore. Hes a light-heavyweight. He hasnt fought at MW since UFC 83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCrowing Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I love Forrest as a personality, I love his heart in the cage and I think he is much underrated as a fighter because of his lack of flash and self-effacing personality, oh and 'cause he looks like a bum and talks like an extra from Deliverance Much as I'd LOVE to see Forrest as LHW champ again, and as Dana has instructed, I;d never count him out, it looks helluva unlikely to me. Let's see who he'd need to beat to get another shot... First up to give him a streak he'd need to beat Lil Nog, Thiago Silva or Rich Franklin. I reckon Lil Nog would eat Forrest on his feet and even worse on the floor. Thiago would outstrike Forrest, but he's shown himself vulnerable to patience and a gameplan, so maybe Forrest could beat him. Franklin is a more polished competitor than Forrest, but his only win in some time has been a decision against the increasingly predictable and fragile Wanderlei Silva, and I reckon Forrest would probably win that one. So it's a 1.5 from 3 to win his next fight. Then in a number one contenders fight he'd need to beat someone like Randy Couture (assuming he beats Coleman) or perhaps even a rematch against the winner of Rashad Evans vs. Rampage Jackson, assuming their match isn't effectively a no.1 contenders match. Forrest trains with Couture, so it's unlikely that match would be booked, and while Couture would stifle Griffin against the cage (as he does to anyone), I'd like to think Forrest would take the decision. Rashad took Forrest apart in their first match, and I have to say I think that Rashad's wrestling, flawless Jackson-inspired gameplan and KO power would probably win the day if they were to fight again. Forrest managed to evade Rampage's KO power and slams in their first match, and also immobilized him with stiff leg kicks and a wise gameplan - could lightning strike twice? Usually I would say no, but Rampage has been increasingly erratic, coming close to losing to Jardine and preferring to film a movie rather than take the grudge match with Rashad. If Rampage believes his own hype and overlooks Griffin, I reckon Forrest has just as much a chance as he did first time... So in the next round of matches, that's a win, a loss and a maybe, so 1.5 from 3 again. Assuming Forrest had done what was necessary, he'd be up against Lyoto Machida or Shogun Rua for the title... Forrest has stated in the part that he wants to part of Machida, and given his decimation at the hands of Lyoto's fellow Black House member and fellow counter-striker Anderson Silva, I'd expect Forrest to suffer if he tries his 'take a punch to give a punch' style. While Griffin may hold a win over Mauricio Rua, that is one instance where I do NOT think lightning will strike twice. Shogun has acclimatised to the Octagon and if he can outstrike Machida, then Forrest Griffin's limited and relatively soft strikes will present little threat. So thats 0 from 2 in the title match. SO, I reckon Forrest has a 3 in 8 chance (thats 37.5%) of regaining the light heavyweight title - except that given I can;t see him beating Machida or Shogun, it's actually worse than that. I think Forrest will continue to fight in marquee, yet somewhat meaningless matchups against the likes of Franklin and possibly a rematch against Jardine. If he pushes himsefl against elite opposition, the threat of the UFCs poster boy being exposed again is too high for Dana and the Zuffa marketeers to risk, and while Forrest's scalp would be an awesome one for up & comers like Jon Jones or Ryan Bader, I don't think they want to risk that either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoPig Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 TBH I think the easier match would be for him to put on weight and move to HW and fight Brock than fight Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioHazard8021 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I say he doesnt I don't see forrest getting past lil nog and I dont see him beating shogun again I also dont see him beating any of the top guys like thiago silva' date=' randy couture, rashad, or layoto machida an rich franklin is a MW if they were to fight I don't see forrest winning that fight either[/quote'] I think Forrest has the potential to beat Lil Nog. He out struck Rashad, so if he kept it standing, he probably could be Rashad. He would never fight Randy. And Rich Franklin has made a permanent move to LHW after being told as long as Anderson is on the MW throne, Rich will never get another shot at the MW title. And its spelled Lyoto. Usually i ignore spelling errors, but come on, it's someone's name. Spelled wrong in your sig too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioHazard8021 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 It's not that Forrest isn't good enough for another title shot' date=' he just simply won't be able to beat the champ. Machida would wreck Forrest almost as bad as Silva did, and if Machida ever lost his belt, I bet A. Silva would be first in line to hold two belts at the same time, and we all know Forrest should not step into the Octagon with him again, especially for a title.[/quote'] Anderson has said that even if Machida lost the belt, he would not make a run for it because it would threaten Machida's chances of regaining it. That's how deep their friendship is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i'd be surprised if he ever got another title shot let alone won the belt again +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_Fanatic_89 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nnnnnnooooooooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoMan Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 hes not a good enough fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 hes not a good enough fighter. he admitted that when he won the title lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I like Forrest as a fighter. He's got that persona that just makes you laugh whenever has a interview' date=' a down to earth guy and I have never heard him trashtalk.. But I hate to say it, but it feels like Forrest has taken over Jardines place as a "gatekeeper" in the Light Heavyweight division, but he definetly got the heart and the talent to make him a top contender again... Like Dana White said after the Shogun fight [i']"Never count Forrest Griffin out"[/i] When was it that Griffin took Jardine's place as gatekeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokesyboy Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I like Forrest as a fighter. He's got that persona that just makes you laugh whenever has a interview' date=' a down to earth guy and I have never heard him trashtalk.. But I hate to say it, but it feels like Forrest has taken over Jardines place as a "gatekeeper" in the Light Heavyweight division, but he definetly got the heart and the talent to make him a top contender again... Like Dana White said after the Shogun fight [i']"Never count Forrest Griffin out"[/i] Agree with every-thing you have said here except him being a top contender again, think that ship has sailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiech Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 When was it that Griffin took Jardine's place as gatekeeper? Alright, he's not really taken the position yet, but if feels like it's heading in that direction. Griffin is a former LHW champion, tons of heart and they put him up against Silva.. Silva ran over Griffin like 'that'... I just see that Forrest will be a gatekeeper in the future to measure how future LHW fighters take on an experienced and talented fighter.. I don't like it, but that's how I see it.. Everyone can make it back to a titleshot if you just have the heart for it. But Forrest must be schitzo or something, because in some interviews he's said that he doens't want to be a champion because of the pressure and now he wants a piece of Machida? Forrest has had a nice run, he should be happy to still be where he is in the UFC. He's getting exciting fights (Silva, Ortiz even though Ortiz is douch? and now Lil'Nog).. But to me, both Silva and Lil'Nog can be seen as what I called a "challenge", we all know that Silva and Lil'Nog are great fighters but it's like Dana wanted them up against a fullbreed UFC product.. Forrest Griffin was made by the UFC, through TUF and later on through Xtreme Couture. That's what I meant by "Gatekeeping" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnydingo Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 i think he will be a contender but never champ This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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