MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 main card...bobby lashley vs wes sims .. hmmm wes sims appeared 2 be really out of shape, i mean he took it on 1 weeks notice..and how he pulled guard was weird...his legs right up in the air..he could have easily submitted bobby lashley ..bobby was in a hury any decent jui jitsu /submission game..he has really long legs..if he only trained better ..but he always jokes around...i say in my opinion put lashley against any decent submission guy with relatively good wrestling that will be the true test. Robbie lawler Vs Manhoef... deadly kicks and strikes by manhoef he just didnt have that killer instinct...lawler just landed a good shot right on the temple lost equilabirium...and manhoef is dead short for a middle weight... Herschel Walker Vs Nudg...Walker started dancing..nervous obviousely..but for a 1st timer great performance honestly and the other dude was just terrible..its like he was a seasoned veteran..really impressive walker he just seemed 2 be 47 classy man as well Cris cyborg Vs Marlos Coenen ..if men can compete..so should women..and frankly speaking it was a good fight and possibly more action packed than some other matches that men participate in..cris cyborg did a great job..she looked a bit overwhelmed at the begining but rest of the fight controllled it eventually refere stoppage ..on a side note..i feel bad though when women get hurt...but thats what u signed up for i guess Diaz Vs Zaromskis absolutely fantastic performance....ppl seemed 2 over hype zaromskis...nate diaz has great heart..he was rocked earlier on...he beat a champion whos main atribute is his striking, nate diaz hieght advantage really helped, great job..in my opinion he should fight top contenders in ufc and will probably beat them..he got a good camp lightweight middleweight and welterweight champions all belong 2 the same camp In conclusion good card i enjoyed it and i enjoyed frank shamrocks commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo_Jones Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 main card...bobby lashley vs wes sims .. hmmm wes sims appeared 2 be really out of shape' date=' i mean he took it on 1 weeks notice..and how he pulled guard was weird...his legs right up in the air..he could have easily submitted bobby lashley ..bobby was in a hury any decent jui jitsu /submission game..he has really long legs..if he only trained better ..but he always jokes around...i say in my opinion put lashley against any decent submission guy with relatively good wrestling that will be the true test. Robbie lawler Vs Manhoef... deadly kicks and strikes by manhoef he just didnt have that killer instinct...lawler just landed a good shot right on the temple lost equilabirium...and manhoef is dead short for a middle weight... Herschel Walker Vs Nudg...Walker started dancing..nervous obviousely..but for a 1st timer great performance honestly and the other dude was just terrible..its like he was a seasoned veteran..really impressive walker he just seemed 2 be 47 classy man as well Cris cyborg Vs Marlos Coenen ..if men can compete..so should women..and frankly speaking it was a good fight and possibly more action packed than some other matches that men participate in..cris cyborg did a great job..she looked a bit overwhelmed at the begining but rest of the fight controllled it eventually refere stoppage ..on a side note..i feel bad though when women get hurt...but thats what u signed up for i guess Diaz Vs Zaromskis absolutely fantastic performance....ppl seemed 2 over hype zaromskis...nate diaz has great heart..he was rocked earlier on...he beat a champion whos main atribute is his striking, nate diaz hieght advantage really helped, great job..in my opinion he should fight top contenders in ufc and will probably beat them..he got a good camp lightweight middleweight and welterweight champions all belong 2 the same camp In conclusion good card i enjoyed it and i enjoyed frank shamrocks commentary[/quote'] Agreed, the overall performance of the shows is increasing talent, production, and commentating. People just need to start accepting that SF isn't going anywhere. Soon enough they will be a legit contender to the top of the mountain in MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Agreed' date=' the overall performance of the shows is increasing talent, production, and commentating. People just need to start accepting that SF isn't going anywhere. Soon enough they will be a legit contender to the top of the mountain in MMA.[/quote'] Couldn't have said it better myself, so i didn't :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 yep, and its going 2 a much wider audience, its on showtime, cbs...but i still love ufc, but its better for the fighters..more options..more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Agreed' date=' the overall performance of the shows is increasing talent, production, and commentating. People just need to start accepting that SF isn't going anywhere. Soon enough they will be a legit contender to the top of the mountain in MMA.[/quote'] overall it wasnt a good show, good job to walker for stepping in there but he didnt look like a seasoned veteran like somebody said. Kimbo would destroy Walker and Kimbo sucks. Everytime Strikeforce holds an event it proves that the UFC is far and away the number one promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 look at the ufc history and strikeforce..ufc has been around for ages....and for a 1st timer walker did a great job...kimbo is 1 dimensional..walker showed a decent ground game..dont be knocking strikeforce because its a competitor..enjoy mma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 look at the ufc history and strikeforce..ufc has been around for ages....and for a 1st timer walker did a great job...kimbo is 1 dimensional..walker showed a decent ground game..dont be knocking strikeforce because its a competitor..enjoy mma... Walker didnt show a decent ground game, his opponent was probably paid to not fight back, just like Kimbo's first eliteXC opponent, Bo cantell, was paid to take a dive. Kimbo showed a better ground game and was more explosive with his suplex in the alexander fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 kimbo lacks ground game aspect..walker was really good for a 1st timer..like i said..he wasnt really nervous hes movement on the ground was good, and he did proove 2 have a decent ground game..a decent 1..not spectacular..DECENT...its his first fight bro cut him some slack...and like i said be a fan of mma..not just an orginazation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Agreed' date=' the overall performance of the shows is increasing talent, production, and commentating. People just need to start accepting that SF isn't going anywhere. Soon enough they will be a legit contender to the top of the mountain in MMA.[/quote'] Especially with super stars of the UFC like GSP sitting there giving them publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Especially with super stars of the UFC like GSP sitting there giving them publicity. disagree, the UFC got more publicity out of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 kimbo lacks ground game aspect..walker was really good for a 1st timer..like i said..he wasnt really nervous hes movement on the ground was good' date=' and he did proove 2 have a decent ground game..a decent 1..not spectacular..DECENT...its his first fight bro cut him some slack...and like i said be a fan of mma..not just an orginazation...[/quote'] strikeforce is not MMA for me, i never complained about Pride, Pride was awesome and i loved when they competed with the UFC but strikeforce does nothing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gawdofwar Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 main card...bobby lashley vs wes sims .. hmmm wes sims appeared 2 be really out of shape' date=' i mean he took it on 1 weeks notice..and how he pulled guard was weird...his legs right up in the air..he could have easily submitted bobby lashley ..bobby was in a hury any decent jui jitsu /submission game..he has really long legs..if he only trained better ..but he always jokes around...i say in my opinion put lashley against any decent submission guy with relatively good wrestling that will be the true test. Robbie lawler Vs Manhoef... deadly kicks and strikes by manhoef he just didnt have that killer instinct...lawler just landed a good shot right on the temple lost equilabirium...and manhoef is dead short for a middle weight... Herschel Walker Vs Nudg...Walker started dancing..nervous obviousely..but for a 1st timer great performance honestly and the other dude was just terrible..its like he was a seasoned veteran..really impressive walker he just seemed 2 be 47 classy man as well Cris cyborg Vs Marlos Coenen ..if men can compete..so should women..and frankly speaking it was a good fight and possibly more action packed than some other matches that men participate in..cris cyborg did a great job..she looked a bit overwhelmed at the begining but rest of the fight controllled it eventually refere stoppage ..on a side note..i feel bad though when women get hurt...but thats what u signed up for i guess Diaz Vs Zaromskis absolutely fantastic performance....ppl seemed 2 over hype zaromskis...nate diaz has great heart..he was rocked earlier on...he beat a champion whos main atribute is his striking, nate diaz hieght advantage really helped, great job..in my opinion he should fight top contenders in ufc and will probably beat them..he got a good camp lightweight middleweight and welterweight champions all belong 2 the same camp In conclusion good card i enjoyed it and i enjoyed frank shamrocks commentary[/quote'] didn't know nate diaz fought in strike force I always throught it was nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 didn't know nate diaz fought in strike force I always throught it was nick Don't worry he will be over there soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 didn't know nate diaz fought in strike force I always throught it was nick dont be a smart as$ bro, u know what i mean, slip of the tongue i apologize, is that all u can conclude from that discussion...god help u bro and again i apologize for i am only a man and i made an error lol..im sorry good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 dont be a smart as$ bro' date=' u know what i mean, slip of the tongue i apologize, is that all u can conclude from that discussion...god help u bro and again i apologize for i am only a man and i made an error lol..im sorry good night[/quote'] I thought you went to bed? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i apologize for that bro, i went 2 pray and came back checked on the post, but i havnt slept all day so i shall retire now, good night *_* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i apologize for that bro' date=' i went 2 pray and came back checked on the post, but i havnt slept all day so i shall retire now, good night *_*[/quote'] Peace brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieMGS Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 strikeforce is not MMA for me' date=' i never complained about Pride, Pride was awesome and i loved when they competed with the UFC but strikeforce does nothing for me[/quote'] What a UFC fanboy, what do you mean it doesnt do anything for you? I bet you need to hear goldberg and rogans voice with all the UFC sponsors. You are not an MMA fan, you are just a UFC fan, if UFC went out of buisness tomorrow you would probably stop watching MMA forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwillsubmit Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i thought frank shamrocks commentry was the low point...very average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycage Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I am gonna give Strikeforce propps for the card tonight. I enjoyed it very much and love the fact that they have a women's division. Those women fight hard as hell and keep it entertaining to watch....I dont see Strikeforce reaching the level of the UFC, but they are definately a legit organization and their up and coming talent is looking better and better all the time......I'll give tonights card a 9 out of 10.........and I'll give the UFC a -5 out of 10 for trying to steal the show with a replay of a ppv. you wanna steal the show, then put on your own live show the same day..........Not some replay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanJesus Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 main card...bobby lashley vs wes sims .. hmmm wes sims appeared 2 be really out of shape' date=' i mean he took it on 1 weeks notice..and how he pulled guard was weird...his legs right up in the air..he could have easily submitted bobby lashley ..bobby was in a hury any decent jui jitsu /submission game..he has really long legs..if he only trained better ..but he always jokes around...i say in my opinion put lashley against any decent submission guy with relatively good wrestling that will be the true test. Robbie lawler Vs Manhoef... deadly kicks and strikes by manhoef he just didnt have that killer instinct...lawler just landed a good shot right on the temple lost equilabirium...and manhoef is dead short for a middle weight... Herschel Walker Vs Nudg...Walker started dancing..nervous obviousely..but for a 1st timer great performance honestly and the other dude was just terrible..its like he was a seasoned veteran..really impressive walker he just seemed 2 be 47 classy man as well Cris cyborg Vs Marlos Coenen ..if men can compete..so should women..and frankly speaking it was a good fight and possibly more action packed than some other matches that men participate in..cris cyborg did a great job..she looked a bit overwhelmed at the begining but rest of the fight controllled it eventually refere stoppage ..on a side note..i feel bad though when women get hurt...but thats what u signed up for i guess Diaz Vs Zaromskis absolutely fantastic performance....ppl seemed 2 over hype zaromskis...nate diaz has great heart..he was rocked earlier on...he beat a champion whos main atribute is his striking, nate diaz hieght advantage really helped, great job..in my opinion he should fight top contenders in ufc and will probably beat them..he got a good camp lightweight middleweight and welterweight champions all belong 2 the same camp In conclusion good card i enjoyed it and i enjoyed frank shamrocks commentary[/quote'] Wes was going for a Scorpion Crush, but it doesnt work on some fighters. Lawler vs Manhoef was incredible. I thought another International guy was gonna beat another American fighter, but like Manhoef he didnt go for the kill when he had the chance 1 minute prior from getting KTFO. Nice visual on his face though, Robbie delivered as did Nick and Cyborg. I was going for Coenen, I guess next is Erin Toughill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 yea great fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 look at the ufc history and strikeforce..ufc has been around for ages....and for a 1st timer walker did a great job...kimbo is 1 dimensional..walker showed a decent ground game..dont be knocking strikeforce because its a competitor..enjoy mma... ...but Strikeforce has been around long enough to put up better cards than this. You start off by showcasing two fighters against two complete cans. As far as I'm concerned, because of the fighters they chose to fight these guys it really proved nothing at all as far as their (Walker and Lashley) skill set. That Nugy offered absolutely no resistance at all during his fight with Walker. I don't even know if he even got three strikes in the entire fight and the fight went almost the entire three rounds. If they have KO of the night bonuses in SF it almost certainly goes to Lawler who i believe would have verbally submitted to leg kicks had that fight gone into the second round (I know he was seeing a replay of his fight with Pete Spratt replaying in his mind over and over again as that fight grew longer) I don't know what everyone is talking about when they're saying Manhoef had no killer instinct. He got caught point blank. Even at the moments went it look like Lawler was failing he had enough of his wits that it was dangerous for Manhoef to go all out and the one punch proved that. Props to SF for not making the women's fight the main event. Before too long showing the women fighters will become futile though as long as Cyborg exists in a man's body. I don't know what foolishness the one guy who responded was talking about when he said if men should fight, women should fight also but oh well. That being said it was not at all a boring fight and much better than the Walker and Lashley fights. I was glad for Diaz, but at the same time I was disappointed in Zaromskis standup. From videos I had seen I really expected him to show more...He really didn't look that good at all except for his knockdown of Diaz which was more because of the way Diaz holds his hands than anything else. I guess Diaz pressing him and being in his face constantly didnt allow him to set and start picking Diaz apart as his opponents had apparently made a mistake of doing in the past. I like Diaz, but I really hate the way that Diaz holds his gloves so far apart especially after one of those hailmaker punches of his. I know he's baiting usually, but you just know someone with really good boxing skills and power will catch him slipping eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 if men are allowed 2 fight..then women are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 if men are allowed 2 fight..then women are It's more that women should be allowed to fight, because it's their right to do so, but by nature ( because of their mental and physical makeup) a woman really should not be fighting in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 its not by nature, its our interpretation of women should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Nature is not subject to interpretation...it is what it is. But if ure saying that after observing women that you've been around...they tend to be aggressive, disposed to violent behavior, physically overpowering, and built like men...maybe you should suggest to people in that area that inbreeding is not excepted/condoned behavior anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSanta Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i thought frank shamrocks commentry was the low point...very average I thought all the commentary was the low point..They need to fire all of them..Jimmy Lennon Jr included because they are god awful. Great SF Event though. I enjoyed it. The Diaz-Zaromkis fight was awesome...Hey just think if Fedor fights the next SF card that could mean 2 big ppv's for them in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I thought all the commentary was the low point..They need to fire all of them..Jimmy Lennon Jr included because they are god awful. Great SF Event though. I enjoyed it. The Diaz-Zaromkis fight was awesome...Hey just think if Fedor fights the next SF card that could mean 2 big ppv's for them in a row. There's that one problem with your analysis...This event wasn't a PPV event...altho if you didnt have Showtime you could have paid to get it for the night, but i bet that number would be less than 1% of the people who didn't have Showtime but had the ability to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCITOLDUSO Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Not a good night for Strikeforce compared to their last few. Didn't see the Sims/ Lashley fight but it ended as expected. Lawler/ Manhoef was probably the most interesting fight of the night. The walker fight, besides ****ty technique on display by both fighters, had the feel of a poorly choreographed wrestling match. It sucks when these promotions try to get by on the gimmick of names instead of good fighters. I'm not opposed to this stuff. Just not on the main card, thank you. SF probably lost half its viewers during this fight. The girls. Cohonen brought it! I think that fight may have been called a tad early. She definitely took away the aire of invincability that Cyborg had up to this point. BUT, Cyborg didn't come after her with the power and fury she did with Carano. Respect? Maybe Carano/ Cohenen? And where the hell was Gina, anyways? If youre the face of womens MMA, shouldnt you be out there promoting your brand? Bad show. SF needs all the help they can get. Finally the main event. It seems as though diaz's opponent didnt have the coin for a good corner/ trainer. Who the hell would let you stand at distance with a guy that has a 6" reach advantage and trade toe to toe when he's just outside your range? He landed a good shot but he got inside to do it. And lastly. Invest the 100 bucks and get these guys some friggin hairstyles, PLEASE! And the camera guy on the ring with shorts? C'mon. Not even Bush league! I dont blame the fighters, but if Strikeforce wants to compete at this level, they need to tighten up their fit-and-finish. Their last fight nght was great, but they need to hit a homerun every time. To sum it up, the whole experience sucked, with a couple of good fights. I was hoping for more out of these guys because I hate the UFC monopoly, but I cant wait til next weekend to get this crappy SF fight night taste out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 nick diaz says he want gsp lol not even. but yeah it was a good (free) card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Not a good night for Strikeforce compared to their last few. Didn't see the Sims/ Lashley fight but it ended as expected. Lawler/ Manhoef was probably the most interesting fight of the night. The walker fight' date=' besides ****ty technique on display by both fighters, had the feel of a poorly choreographed wrestling match. It sucks when these promotions try to get by on the gimmick of names instead of good fighters. I'm not opposed to this stuff. Just not on the main card, thank you. SF probably lost half its viewers during this fight. The girls. Cohonen brought it! I think that fight may have been called a tad early. She definitely took away the aire of invincability that Cyborg had up to this point. BUT, Cyborg didn't come after her with the power and fury she did with Carano. Respect? Maybe Carano/ Cohenen? And where the hell was Gina, anyways? If youre the face of womens MMA, shouldnt you be out there promoting your brand? Bad show. SF needs all the help they can get. Finally the main event. It seems as though diaz's opponent didnt have the coin for a good corner/ trainer. Who the hell would let you stand at distance with a guy that has a 6" reach advantage and trade toe to toe when he's just outside your range? He landed a good shot but he got inside to do it. And lastly. Invest the 100 bucks and get these guys some friggin hairstyles, PLEASE! And the camera guy on the ring with shorts? C'mon. Not even Bush league! I dont blame the fighters, but if Strikeforce wants to compete at this level, they need to tighten up their fit-and-finish. Their last fight nght was great, but they need to hit a homerun every time. To sum it up, the whole experience sucked, with a couple of good fights. I was hoping for more out of these guys because I hate the UFC monopoly, but I cant wait til next weekend to get this crappy SF fight night taste out of my mouth.[/quote'] no sir, u suck! and cant apprecaite mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChamp Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 ahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJohnny Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 i enjoyed the card. -Rosa parks didnt call shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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