Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm still confused as to where he falls in the LHW picture. Some fights he's a contender, others he's a complete failure. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adabesi Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Me neither,I don't know how the guy goes from taking Rampages best shots and dominating Chuck to getting totally destoyed by the Silva's. I wish he would stop the ****** pinching too, really gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_4 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Also knocks out Forrest, but gets destroyed by Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 yeah hes a very unorthodox fighter and always a tough fight. he looked good vs rampage,forrest,chuck. thiago timed that left and hit him pretty good. i think he will beat Ryan (master) bader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyjoes923 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 He's on and off. I personally think he's still a good fighter. We'll see his legitamacy when he fights Bader. Even if he loses to Bader I don't think he should be cut. Especially when there are guys like Sinosic signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercsho Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 failure. he's not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Yeah by no means should he be cut. It's odd though, would he fall into the gatekeeper category just yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 failure. he's not very good ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adabesi Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Also knocks out Forrest' date=' but gets destroyed by Houston.[/quote'] Nice add on, they guy is the most unpredictable fighter in MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 ... why even post if u put just 3 dots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 why even post if u put just 3 dots? I need to accentuate the pointlessness of a certain post. I guess you can do the same for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u_got_schooled Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I dont like jardine he bores me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_4 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm glad that you made this thread, because I'm tired of hearing people talk about the same fighters over and over (lesnar, penn, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddievanhalen3 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i dont think hes a gatekeeper hes def not a contender tho.. hes just average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 So would he be less than a gatekeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 So would he be less than a gatekeeper? no, he's just not quite top 10. close maybe. but he's deff not a gate keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 no' date=' he's just not quite top 10. close maybe. but he's deff not a gate keeper[/quote']Exactly, I have no idea what to make of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I need to accentuate the pointlessness of a certain post. I guess you can do the same for this one. ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm still confused as to where he falls in the LHW picture. Some fights he's a contender' date=' others he's a complete failure. Opinions?[/quote'] id put jardine at 10th or 11th easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 List? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJSMAN Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 He would win a ugly contest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUF629 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Me neither' date='I don't know how the guy goes from taking Rampages best shots and dominating Chuck to getting totally destoyed by the Silva's. I wish he would stop the ****** pinching too, really gross.[/quote'] The What Pinching?????? I think One more Fight and he should be out but since he was on the Ultimate Fighter it's a little unlikely IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint3o5 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Jardine is the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 He would win a ugly contest![/quoteyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBringer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 He is a good fighter with a lot of potential, it's just he isn't consistent so he needs to get on a roll to even think about a title shot. Win or lose he gives a good fight and fights hard. Very unorthodox style and entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Cold92 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I hope he beats Bader. I like the Techno Viking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJohnny Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Id say gatekeeper. -Rosa parks didnt call shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAmadmike Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 He is a good fighter with a lot of potential' date=' it's just he isn't consistent so he needs to get on a roll to even think about a title shot. Win or lose he gives a good fight and fights hard. Very unorthodox style and entertaining.[/quote'] ^^This I do think the unorthodox style is his biggest strengh though which makes it hard for most dudes to time him. Imo it has saved him in a few fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reppy Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I like him, most of his fights are entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwillsubmit Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 i dunno but ive got $100 on him @$2.60 verse bader, he will win that fight thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJSMAN Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think jardine needs to take ballet to get more Gracious in the ring ...he is tooo jerky and weird acting....he needs more fluid movement .......that fighting style he has will only get you so far then the wheels fall off.........same with Brock....his little reign is about to end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThresherShark17 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I like keith I think he is a decent fighter. I really wish he was more consistent though. Has some really impressive fights and some really terrible fights. Unless he gets drastically more consistent I do not see him being a contender. But I dont think he is a gatekeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnydingo Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Keith'll get past Bader, he hasn't fallen that low yet imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyT1222 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I love Jardine, but I'll admit he's probably only an average fighter. He's won against above average fighters but he's also lost to below average fighters (we have to mention houston). Jardine just seems to be hot and cold. Some fights he gets it done and other fights he just doesn't. But regardless, he's always an exciting fighter to watch. And I like his N-I-pple tweaking before he fights. It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhatend Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 You know for quite sometime I have thought Jardine was simply a hot and cold fighter. In reality I do believe he is not. Jardine is a perfect example of the phrase styles make fights. That is why he beats Griffin, Liddell and Vera, and loses to Alexander, W. Silva and T. Silva. His two most impressive wins are over former champs who are mainly outside brawlers if you will, in the sense that they pick their shots. Griffin just got stuck in a dog fight with Jardine and came up on the wrong end, but Liddell got picked apart from the outside and never got to fight his fight if you will. Jardine's weakness is aggressive muay thai strikers who love the clinch game - see his above losses. Bader is a perfect matchup for Jardine if you ask me. If Bader stands with him, Jardine can use his vicious leg kicks to throw off his rhythm and take the step out of Bader. Also we constantly hear about how underrated Jardine's ground game is, which is no surprise being as he trains with GSP, Evans and Marquardt so if Bader can take him down I don't see him being able to hold Jardine down and ground and pound him. I really think Jardine finds a way to take this decision and starts to creep back into the top 10, which I have him just outside right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 You know for quite sometime I have thought Jardine was simply a hot and cold fighter. In reality I do believe he is not. Jardine is a perfect example of the phrase styles make fights. That is why he beats Griffin' date=' Liddell and Vera, and loses to Alexander, W. Silva and T. Silva. His two most impressive wins are over former champs who are mainly outside brawlers if you will, in the sense that they pick their shots. Griffin just got stuck in a dog fight with Jardine and came up on the wrong end, but Liddell got picked apart from the outside and never got to fight his fight if you will. Jardine's weakness is aggressive muay thai strikers who love the clinch game - see his above losses. Bader is a perfect matchup for Jardine if you ask me. If Bader stands with him, Jardine can use his vicious leg kicks to throw off his rhythm and take the step out of Bader. Also we constantly hear about how underrated Jardine's ground game is, which is no surprise being as he trains with GSP, Evans and Marquardt so if Bader can take him down I don't see him being able to hold Jardine down and ground and pound him. I really think Jardine finds a way to take this decision and starts to creep back into the top 10, which I have him just outside right now.[/quote'] Great post. I completely agree with the stylistic problems explaining his inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyT1222 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 You know for quite sometime I have thought Jardine was simply a hot and cold fighter. In reality I do believe he is not. Jardine is a perfect example of the phrase styles make fights. That is why he beats Griffin' date=' Liddell and Vera, and loses to Alexander, W. Silva and T. Silva. His two most impressive wins are over former champs who are mainly outside brawlers if you will, in the sense that they pick their shots. Griffin just got stuck in a dog fight with Jardine and came up on the wrong end, but Liddell got picked apart from the outside and never got to fight his fight if you will. Jardine's weakness is aggressive muay thai strikers who love the clinch game - see his above losses. Bader is a perfect matchup for Jardine if you ask me. If Bader stands with him, Jardine can use his vicious leg kicks to throw off his rhythm and take the step out of Bader. Also we constantly hear about how underrated Jardine's ground game is, which is no surprise being as he trains with GSP, Evans and Marquardt so if Bader can take him down I don't see him being able to hold Jardine down and ground and pound him. I really think Jardine finds a way to take this decision and starts to creep back into the top 10, which I have him just outside right now.[/quote'] Perhaps, and I agree to a point. Styles make fights. But I don't think your theory explains his loss to houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWT Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Perhaps' date=' and I agree to a point. Styles make fights. But I don't think your theory explains his loss to houston.[/quote'] All I'd say is he seems to have problems with quick aggression (Wandy, Houston). I'm sure there's a better way to put it. Jardine's position in the UFC for me might be 9-13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 jardines a threat to many LHW fighters...as i stated b4 i could easily put him at 10th or 11th ranked...his fight against bonnar i had jardine winning,but as we all know leaving it to the judges is not a good idea...and he rocked and hurt houston...his mistake was he went in wild for the kill and got caught...these things happen...he went the distance with rampage which is a great feat for any fighter...and getting knocked-out by thiago and wanderlei shouldnt diminish who jardine is as a fighter...those two are incredible fighters with enormous ko power...i think dana sees this as well and will keep jardine in the UFC for along time to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhatend Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Perhaps' date=' and I agree to a point. Styles make fights. [b']But I don't think your theory explains his loss to houston.[/b] Na, the only thing that explains that is Alexander being an absolute pitbull in that fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 He always give a good fight so i wish he stay in the UFC he still have some fight in him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'm still confused as to where he falls in the LHW picture. Some fights he's a contender' date=' others he's a complete failure. Opinions?[/quote'] He's better than Forrest, so he must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron91 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 He just struggles with fast paces agressive strikers, EG Houston Alexander,Wanderlai Silva,Thiago Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Me neither' date='I don't know how the guy goes from taking Rampages best shots and dominating Chuck to getting totally destoyed by the Silva's. [b']I wish he would stop the ****** pinching too, really gross.[/b] LOL! Same here! He reminds me of one of those characters from a movie whose setting is in a correctional facility and he's the in-house pervert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalover5 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 his success tends to depend on his opponents figuring out his odd style or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwillsubmit Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 ill sig bet anyone who thinks bader will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 ill sig bet anyone who thinks bader will win Hmm...How would you like the sig to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwillsubmit Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hmm...How would you like the sig to be? well if jardine wins you will put "Uwillsubmit is a ufc.com forum god and if i ever got the chance to meet him i would be obliged to offer him sexual favors" and if bader wins you can name your sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 well if jardine wins you will put "Uwillsubmit is a ufc.com forum god and if i ever got the chance to meet him i would be obliged to offer him sexual favors" and if bader wins you can name your sig lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 well if jardine wins you will put "Uwillsubmit is a ufc.com forum god and if i ever got the chance to meet him i would be obliged to offer him sexual favors" and if bader wins you can name your sig LOL! Sorry i asked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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