TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I just want to ask who everyone thinks is the best pound for pound fighter in the ufc right now is. Here is my top 3, and my reasons why: 1. BJ Penn- He is the easily the best lightweight in the world, losing only once early in his career at LW and he later avenged his loss. He has fought many champions at several weight classes, including Matt Hughes, GSP, and Lyoto Machida at HW. While he has lost most of his fights above LW, every time he lost it was because he was significantly smaller, and usually because he gassed due to poor conditioning. He even took Machida, who fought at 220 lbs, to a close decision. But since those losses, he has done an incredible job at his conditioning, and displayed dominance over Kenny Florian and the much larger Diego Sanchez. BJ has cleaned out his division and solidified his spot at #1. 2. Georges St. Pierre- A very close second, GSP is by far the best welterweight in the world. He has lost only twice and he has avenged those losses with authority (twice on Hughes), and continually fights the top challengers. He is perhaps the most well-rounded and athletic fighter in the world, and has destroyed many tough fighters, including Jon Fitch, Matt Hughes twice, BJ Penn twice, and most recently Thiago Alves, who is much larger than GSP. He has nearly cleaned out his division and if he moves up to MW, he could easily capture the #1 p4p spot. 3. Anderson Silva- One of the best fighters of all time, he has cleaned out his division with ease. He is on a record 10 ufc fight win streak, beating top-quality fighters such as Nate Marquardt, Dan Henderson, Rich Franklin twice, and Forrest Griffin. While many believe he is the p4p best, I believe he can only be the best if he wins the LHW title, since he was a very big MW: his natural weight class is 205, as he weighs 220 lbs.If he can beat the top 205ers, he will be the p4p best. Please vote and tell why you picked that fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 lyoto machida. meaning that if anybody fought anyone his size he would win. or if he were 155,255,666,98 he would win against the same wieght Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Machida fought at a weight of 102 kg (220 lb). Penn weighed in at 86.5 kg (191 lb). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 How can he be the best if he barely beat BJ when he was over 40 pounds lighter and just lost to Shogun at the same weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Damn, why no details and reasonings 4 shogun lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 LOL @ BJ Penn The LW div is a joke filled with TUF alimni and/or failed welterweights. That's why BJ is in no experts or analysis P4P list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 O neva mind I thought he gave details and reasonings 4 everybody except Shogun lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 How can he be the best if he barely beat BJ when he was over 40 pounds lighter and just lost to Shogun at the same weight? he beat shogun and thats why he is the champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranga Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Roy Nelson - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Damn' date=' why no details and reasonings 4 shogun lol.[/quote'] Because Shogun has beat many of the best LHWs in the world, including Rampage, Liddell, Lil Nog, and Machida, in my opinion, who is also one of the P4P best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorFedor Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Where's Fedor or Brock lesnar?? For god's sake, you've a man that's 2-2 in the UFC and who recently lost to Machida on the poll.. What disgrace!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 he beat shogun and thats why he is the champ Watch the fight again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 he beat shogun and thats why he is the champ Um no not really, it wasnt clear at all that Lyoto should have walked away with that title but it doesnt really matter, Shogun gona take it 4rm him in the rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Where's Fedor or Brock lesnar?? For god's sake' date=' you've a man that's 2-2 in the UFC and who recently lost to Machida on the poll.. What disgrace!![/quote'] I said best P4P in UFC, Fedor is not in the ufc. And Brock outweighs everyone he fights how is he p4p best???Plus, Shogun in Pride was amazing and he lost to Forrest and Coleman because of his leg, which he kept breaking (not making excuses, but when he beat Liddell and Machida he proved he was back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon1406052403 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 BJ or silva. very close but if they were the same natural weight i think BJ would win (my opinion), and i think to be the best P4P it helps to move around weight classes, like these 2 have fedor should be on the list too, i don't think he has fought the very BEST competition, but he fought super heavyweights, and his undefeated status is undisputed in a way to me, his only controversial fights were arona and that cut he got (not decisive loses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Because Shogun has beat many of the best LHWs in the world' date=' including Rampage, Liddell, Lil Nog, and Machida, in my opinion, who is also one of the P4P best.[/quote'] Um I know what Shogun has done, hes my favorite fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Since BJ and GSP fought at an agreed weight and GSP beat him like a bxtch anyone who voterd Penn for P4P should be laughed of of the forum. GSP humiliated Penn BJ is an overrated clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddievanhalen3 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 i think its between silva penn and gsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aKaBeasTTT Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 LOL @ BJ Penn The LW div is a joke filled with TUF alimni and/or failed welterweights. That's why BJ is in no experts or analysis P4P list. A joke? the LW division is by far the most talent filled division if not a very close second to the WW's to run through all the great fighters BJ has run through so easily takes a lot of skill and IMHO deserves to be in the p4p greatest of all time. and which experts don't rank him in the top 10? sherdog and yahoo sports seem to disagree with your knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Since BJ and GSP fought at an agreed weight and GSP beat him like a bxtch anyone who voterd Penn for P4P should be laughed of of the forum. GSP humiliated Penn BJ is an overrated clown You should be laughed off the forum. While I love GSP, he was much bigger than BJ and he used his superior size and strength. BJ had to gain weight to get to 170, GSP had to cut 15 lbs... Do the math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 jason von flue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pernell Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 1. Anderson Silva - A record 10 fight win streak. He has cleaned out his own weight division plus beating up LHW's including the fomer LHW Champ Forrest Griffen. Something BJ couldn't do when he faced GSP and therefore BJ shouldn't be considered #1 P4P. 2. GSP -The best wrestler in the UFC although he never wreslted and has cleaned out his division. 3. BJ Penn - He not only has sick Jujitsu and is the most flexiable person in the UFC also an outstanding boxer. All you have to do is look at Diego's face after their last fight. Brock should be considered as he has impressive wins over prevoius champions like Couture and Mir and threw Hearing around like a rag doll. Rua and Machida shouldn't even be considered as their fight was to close and their divison is to competitive. A number of LHW fighters could still be considered futrue champs including: Lil Nog, Jones, Rampage, Anderson and Rashad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 He isn't my favorite fighter because of his personality but no one can deny Anderson's skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 1. Anderson Silva - A record 10 fight win streak. He has cleaned out his own weight division plus beating up LHW's including the fomer LHW Champ Forrest Griffen. Something BJ couldn't do when he faced GSP and therefore BJ shouldn't be considered #1 P4P. 2. GSP -The best wrestler in the UFC although he never wreslted and has cleaned out his division. 3. BJ Penn - He not only has sick Jujitsu and is the most flexiable person in the UFC also an outstanding boxer. All you have to do is look at Diego's face after their last fight. Brock should be considered as he has impressive wins over prevoius champions like Couture and Mir and threw Hearing around like a rag doll. Rua and Machida shouldn't even be considered as their fight was to close and their divison is to competitive. A number of LHW fighters could still be considered futrue champs including: Lil Nog' date=' Jones, Rampage, Anderson and Rashad.[/quote'] While I'm fine with your opinion of Silva being the best, you can't use him beating Forrest as reason for him being better than BJ. Anderson walks around at about 220, Forrest at 225. He was not smaller than Forrest, but BJ was significantly smaller than GSP. Anderson's natural weight class is LHW, he should have been fighting there from the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGriffinator Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Oh and Brock can't be considered because he has never defeated a person near his size, he has had at least 30 pounds on everyone he has fought, so he definitely isn't in the p4p discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0verrated Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 LOL @ BJ Penn The LW div is a joke filled with TUF alimni and/or failed welterweights. That's why BJ is in no experts or analysis P4P list. You are 100% right. Also, Bj's record sucks! The worst out of all the UFC Champs! Go right ahead, look them all up...Bj is last! GSP is the p4p#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 lyoto machida. meaning that if anybody fought anyone his size he would win. or if he were 155' date='255,666,98 he would win against the same wieght[/quote'] this^^ and only this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuMaster Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Seeing as how Fedor’s spirit and legacy continue to plague the ufc, it is only fair that he be considered a ufc P4P best fighter. Fedor’s has fought in the ufc in our minds and in our fantasies, and apparently he has done exceptionally well. So I conclude, Fedor is the best P4P fighter in the ufc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJohnny Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 gotta go with anderson. -Rosa parks didnt call shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team_spahr Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 GSP. absolutely dominated WW division in the UFC. Unlike any fighter has in anything. A silva is on a streak, but to much less skilled fighters than GSP has beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAmadmike Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I said best P4P in UFC' date=' Fedor is not in the ufc. And Brock outweighs everyone he fights how is he p4p best???Plus, Shogun in Pride was amazing and he lost to Forrest and Coleman because of his leg, which he kept breaking (not making excuses, but when he beat Liddell and Machida he proved he was back)[/quote'] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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