ImTheBest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 it doesnt make much sense to me please explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1roycegracie Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 it doesnt make much sense to me please explain Huh? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Huh? lol why do people think aderson silva is dodging people at middle weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1roycegracie Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 why do people think aderson silva is dodging people at middle weight Because they refuse to believe that Silva is really that good. They gotta find some fault in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 haha u are crazy. i mean seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 it doesnt make much sense to me please explain suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 it doesnt make much sense to me please explain by "fedoring" you mean dominating and if so, yes Silva is fedoring people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwiftSpear Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... mmmmmm, sort of... I don't know what say Fedor had in it, but I think part of the reason the M1 management was so sticky was because there were guys in the UFC they didn't want to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 well i cant really knock fedor much more m1 global please make an intellectual agruement against this video wich im quite sure we have all seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjQXq5tjjw id also like to point out that i hate lestard but this video lays it on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh72 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 mmmmmm' date=' sort of... I don't know what say Fedor had in it, but I think part of the reason the M1 management was so sticky was because there were guys in the UFC they didn't want to fight.[/quote'] Please name one.M1 mainly does not sign with the UFC because the UfC wants to control every aspect of their fighters.They want them to do nothing outside the UFC unless Dana White thinks it benefits him.Many of the M1 fighters fight in multiple organizations around the world.The UFC would never allow this and does not want to co-promote with the other organizations.This allows them to control and earn all of the money versus sharing the wealth.Trust me,Fedor is earning more money with M1 global than he would with the UFC.Saying Fedor is ducking people for not signing with the UFC,is like saying GSP,Penn,and Anderson Silva are ducking fighters by not signing with Strikeforce or M!1Global.The argument sounds pretty stupid when the shoe is on the other foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NihilSineLabore Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 well i cant really knock fedor much more m1 global please make an intellectual agruement against this video wich im quite sure we have all seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjQXq5tjjw id also like to point out that i hate lestard but this video lays it on the line Oh so true, great video. You would think that a man's pride would kick in sooner or later and he would put his fists up. Man up Fedor and represent your B.S Nation. By the way I don't like Brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... this^^ by "fedoring" you mean dominatingand if so' date=' yes Silva is fedoring people[/quote'] and this^^ -buy the ticket. take the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Please name one.M1 mainly does not sign with the UFC because the UfC wants to control every aspect of their fighters.They want them to do nothing outside the UFC unless Dana White thinks it benefits him.Many of the M1 fighters fight in multiple organizations around the world.The UFC would never allow this and does not want to co-promote with the other organizations.This allows them to control and earn all of the money versus sharing the wealth.Trust me' date='Fedor is earning more money with M1 global than he would with the UFC.Saying Fedor is ducking people for not signing with the UFC,is like saying GSP,Penn,and Anderson Silva are ducking fighters by not signing with Strikeforce or M!1Global.The argument sounds pretty stupid when the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote'] +1 .. BAM, where'd this guy come from ? ... the "ANTI-SCO" 999 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh72 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 By your theory,Anderson Silva needs to man up and join strikeforce to fight Jake Shields,Machida to fight Mousasi,Penn vs Melendez.You are being absurd.I guess there was no best before the UFC came along.That means that Anderson Silva sucked before he came to the UFC.If you believe that you are definitely not a true MMA fan.MMA was around long before the UFC ever came into play.Please leave your parents basement every now and then to see what the real world is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAmadmike Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 by "fedoring" you mean dominatingand if so' date=' yes Silva is fedoring people[/quote'] Good one dude +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister991 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 i don't understand either. he has ran through all of the top contenders. yes the fights with cote and leitis wernt exactly tough oppenents but who else did they have for him to face? he was schedualed to fight vitor but had to cancel the first time due to scmplications from elbow surgery. not sure how that is ducking a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSP1g Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 -nizepart0519 i don't get it. can someone explain it to me! If Fedor is "the number 1 heavyweight in MMA", why not fight the number 2 HW? Why is he fighting these fighters that aren't even in the top 10 HW in MMA? He's fighting Werdum next. Yes, Werdum. LMAO. Oh man, I had a great laugh when I found out he's fighting Werdum next. nizepart0519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBuds Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 hate to be such a bearer of bad news csh72 but you're passionate rant has one flaw.. Dana White said he could still do sambo tournaments and anything else he wanted to do.. at first he could only fight in the UFC then after nothing happened with his management Dana caved and said he could do whatever he wants but fight in the UFC as well and was offered a lot of money. I love Fedor more then anyone.. I truly believe he is one of the all time greats.. but he still has room to solidify that legacy. He has fought many cans lately (yes Brett Rodgers is nothing.. YES i'am aware he had Fedor in trouble in some moments early on but thats because I believe Fedor didnt really put on that great of a performance.. Kind of like his fight with A. Arlovski.. dont argue.. its true) What he does need to do is tell his management to go f-ck off so he can face the best competition in the world and cement his name in history.. because i hate to tell you beating up Arlovski and Sylvia doesent mean much anymore.. why do you think they left the UFC in the fist place. YES the UFC has the best competition to feed to the Fedor murder machine just admit it. After Werdum and Alistair who is there in strikeforce that is even worth Fedors time? lets be honest Brett Rodgers wasent.. training only for a year and prior to that working at sams club? come on! A. Arlovski.. Tim Sylvia?? Why not Fedor vs. Nogueira again.. or Fedor vs. Randy.. or Fedor vs. Brock.. or Fedor vs. JDS.. why not Fedor vs. anyone in the UFC HW division it would be a spectacular fight! That odds are will end in Fedors favor IT WOULD BE BEST FOR HIS LEGACY AND HIMSELF. at that note hail Fedor he is a f-cking phenom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 hate to be such a bearer of bad news csh72 but you're passionate rant has one flaw.. Dana White said he could still do sambo tournaments and anything else he wanted to do.. at first he could only fight in the UFC then after nothing happened with his management Dana caved and said he could do whatever he wants but fight in the UFC as well and was offered a lot of money. I love Fedor more then anyone.. I truly believe he is one of the all time greats.. but he still has room to solidify that legacy. He has fought many cans lately (yes Brett Rodgers is nothing.. YES i'am aware he had Fedor in trouble in some moments early on but thats because I believe Fedor didnt really put on that great of a performance.. Kind of like his fight with A. Arlovski.. dont argue.. its true) What he does need to do is tell his management to go f-ck off so he can face the best competition in the world and cement his name in history.. because i hate to tell you beating up Arlovski and Sylvia doesent mean much anymore.. why do you think they left the UFC in the fist place. YES the UFC has the best competition to feed to the Fedor murder machine just admit it. After Werdum and Alistair who is there in strikeforce that is even worth Fedors time? lets be honest Brett Rodgers wasent.. training only for a year and prior to that working at sams club? come on! A. Arlovski.. Tim Sylvia?? Why not Fedor vs. Nogueira again.. or Fedor vs. Randy.. or Fedor vs. Brock.. or Fedor vs. JDS.. why not Fedor vs. anyone in the UFC HW division it would be a spectacular fight! That odds are will end in Fedors favor IT WOULD BE BEST FOR HIS LEGACY AND HIMSELF. at that note hail Fedor he is a f-cking phenom. Fedor vs Rodrigo IV ... ? Fedor vs 17-10/47yr old lhw ... ? Fedor vs Cigano w/o seeing his ground game ... the UFC has nothing to offer Fedor ... Fedor vs 3-1 chicken leg pretender ? .............. PASS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 By your theory' date='Anderson Silva needs to man up and join strikeforce to fight Jake Shields,Machida to fight Mousasi,Penn vs Melendez.You are being absurd.I guess there was no best before the UFC came along.That means that Anderson Silva sucked before he came to the UFC.If you believe that you are definitely not a true MMA fan.MMA was around long before the UFC ever came into play.Please leave your parents basement every now and then to see what the real world is about.[/quote'] if your statement was any more played out it would be Brock's wife Fedor is ranked #1 by what is safe to say, the majority. Now when you are ranked #1 you don't go out trying to defeat people ranked lower than you, those fighters are supposed to come and try to defeat you. The fighters ranked #2 and so forth try to dethrone the the fighter who is ranked #1, so that way they can be at the very top. What sense does it make for Fedor to try and take out the lower ranked fighters? The #1 HW wants to dethrone the #3 HW. It just doesn't work that way. -buy the ticket. take the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBuds Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 if you dont think a fight between Fedor and Randy would be competitive you are a moron. As well as suggesting Brock would be a walk in the park. why not Nogueria again? Rodrigo probably would like to fight him again im sure.. I know I'd rather watch Fedor whoop him again then fight some loser in SF (excluding Overeem and Werdum) And Cigano is a black belt in BJJ given to him by the Nogueira brothers.. its safe to say he knows what he's doing if it goes there.. but thats not the point I was naming off random people in the HW division because after those 2 fighters get brutally dispatched at the hands of Fedor there is NO one and atleast in the UFC there are some bad dudes. Fact is he belongs in the UFC with the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercsho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... *applause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercsho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 If anything, people dodge him. I for sure wouldn't want to fight him after he totally embarrased Griffin. He is scary good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 fedoring him giv me a break man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 if you dont think a fight between Fedor and Randy would be competitive you are a moron. As well as suggesting Brock would be a walk in the park. And yeah why not Rodrigo probably would like to fight again.. I'd like to watch Fedor whoop him again why not? And Cigano is a black belt in BJJ given to him by the Nogueira brothers.. its safe to say he knows what he's doing if it goes there.. but thats not the point I was naming off random people in the HW division because after those 2 fighters get brutally dispatched at the hands of Fedor there is NO one and atleast in the UFC there are some bad dudes. Fact is he belongs there with the best. sco created a 5th ID ... you need to share that ganja noob ... :rolleyes: couture barely got by vera ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBuds Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 any fight can go anyway on any day dude hate to break it to you.. it wasent randy's night.. its almost like people forgot randy put up spectacular fights against Rodrigo and Brock just a few months before the Vera fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercsho Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 if you dont think a fight between Fedor and Randy would be competitive you are a moron. I guess I'm a moron because Fedor would destroy Randy. What does Randy do best? Clinching and getting the fight on the cage and to the ground. What does Fedor do best? Slamming dummies that try to clinch with him. And Randy's hands aren't as good as Fedor's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBuds Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 and Randy would try his **** off to fight him his best and make it a competitive fight.. he wouldnt just get destroyed.. Fedor hasent looked so great lately either dude.. it doesent matter if a great like one of those 2 has a bad night.. we know they are destructive when in the right mindset.. but thats besides the point Couture is on his way out there really isnt even a point for Fedor to fight him other then to put a nail in Randys coffin.. it would just be a competitive fun fight to watch.. it would truly be a fight for the books. I believe Fedor would ICE most if not the whole UFC HW roster.. so he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabie10 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 well i cant really knock fedor much more m1 global please make an intellectual agruement against this video wich im quite sure we have all seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjQXq5tjjw id also like to point out that i hate lestard but this video lays it on the line fedor will take it to lesnar if it ever happens ... that video is ridiculous and ignorant to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzie Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 by "fedoring" you mean dominatingand if so' date=' yes Silva is fedoring people[/quote'] +1 That is actually what I thought the thread was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team_spahr Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 You know, Ive been posting on this forum for months now, I do a lot more reading than posting, and ive YET to make a thread of my own, because I try to fit whatever i have to say in the dozens of existing threads on each subject....and here comes this guy with this thread! I think ill just pop my cherry by making a P4P poll question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAmadmike Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Fedor vs Cigano w/o seeing his ground game ... I would really like to see this fight, and who better to test JDS on the ground? We would get to see if he could do what nog couldn't! I don't think he should come to the Ufc just to fight brock, but atleast we would get to see this fight and all the arguments would be over! (I realise there will still be excuse makers but atleast the real fans would know from the fight who won) Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I would really like to see this fight' date=' and who better to test JDS on the ground? We would get to see if he could do what nog couldn't! I don't think he should come to the Ufc just to fight brock, but atleast we would get to see this fight and all the arguments would be over! (I realise there will still be excuse makers but atleast the real fans would know from the fight who won) Just my opinion[/quote'] +1 .. I wonder if uncle rodrigo would throw the future ufc/hwd heir-apparent to the emp this early in his career .. ? I would pay bigtime to see this monster that is cigano hit the ground & break some bone-idge, he is definately ready for the chicken-leg pretender now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 suggesting that Emelianenko avoids fights is the equivilant of announcing to the entire mma community that you are 9yrs old & know absolutely nothing about the sport .... Name a top 5 fighter that Fedor has faced in the past 5 years (washed out scrubs that may have been top 5 long before fighting Fedor doesn't count). Now that may be because the top heavy weights since Pride went down are in the Ufc and the Russian mob will behead his family if he fights for the Ufc. So he may not be avoiding competition but the result is the same. Fedor vs Werdun is a perfect example of the supposed best hw in the world once again fighting a ufc wash out that doesn't even rank top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 The Werdum fight is a joke. Nothing but more record padding and asset protection. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAmadmike Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 +1 .. I wonder if uncle rodrigo would throw the future ufc/hwd heir-apparent to the emp this early in his career .. ? I would pay bigtime to see this monster that is cigano hit the ground & break some bone-idge' date=' he is definately ready for the chicken-leg pretender now .[/quote'] Yeah dude I'd hope so! He might give fedor JDS just to try get one back on him since he's down 3 lol (i'm assuming fedor would have won the no-contest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Name a top 5 fighter that Fedor has faced in the past 5 years (washed out scrubs that may have been top 5 long before fighting Fedor doesn't count). Now that may be because the top heavy weights since Pride went down are in the Ufc and the Russian mob will behead his family if he fights for the Ufc. So he may not be avoiding competition but the result is the same. Fedor vs Werdun is a perfect example of the supposed best hw in the world once again fighting a ufc wash out that doesn't even rank top ten. its all about opinion & perspective, many here said rogers was winning before the hammer dropped, I believe grim would ko lesnar, many anti-emp fans still say it was a lucky punch that ko'd arlovski, ... I don't think there is much cred in cigano or velasquez because their records are shallow ( I believe jds only fought out of the 1st round once/crocop) .. he beat nogueira twice, carwin minus napao is a ridiculous record (never fought past 2:11 & that was his debut) .. crocop & rothwell are the b-team, barry & gonzaga ? .. how about fedor vs struve .. I prefer rogers or arlovski ll. overeem, bigfoot, I can overlook vai cavalos' loss to jds, lashley down the road, barnett will be an excellent challenge ... anyway .. lesnar & dana will war soon & coker will offer brock mega-bux w/ an immediate title shot & thats how it will roll .. p.s.- fedor vs mir would be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh72 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 if your statement was any more played out it would be Brock's wife Fedor is ranked #1 by what is safe to say' date=' the majority. Now when you are ranked #1 you don't go out trying to defeat people ranked lower than you, those fighters are supposed to come and try to defeat you. The fighters ranked #2 and so forth try to dethrone the the fighter who is ranked #1, so that way they can be at the very top. What sense does it make for Fedor to try and take out the lower ranked fighters? The #1 HW wants to dethrone the #3 HW. It just doesn't work that way. -buy the ticket. take the ride.[/quote'] My post was an analogy.Why should Fedor go and seek out the lower ranked fighters.The reverse scenario would be #1 ranked in the world,UFC champions called cowards for not seeking out the Strikeforce lower ranked fighters.The lower ranked fighters should always have to seek out the nuber ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelationWT Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 If any one takes head of that video. I hope you realise that Roger's GNP on Fedor is duplicated? lmao if you don't. The best LWs in the world minus Penn are outside the UFC (beside Kenny who he's already fought) - but do you hear him getting talked crap about? No? Why is that - is it because the UFC is a sacred cow? Brock wants to fight for the WWE of MMA - be happy for him. I want to see Fedor in the UFC, but I'm not too blind to see what over hype is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 why do people think aderson silva is dodging people at middle weight No one think that , how u can make this conclusion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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