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The answer to the biggest question in MMA, will be answered in Strikeforce. No, Brock will not go to Strikeforce to fight Fedor. Matter of fact, they don't even need to fight eachother for this question to be answered. Strikeforce is going to answer that question for everyone, and put the debate to rest once and for all.

 

The answer to this question lies with Bobby Lashley. He is an exact carbon copy of Brock Lesnar. They both have 5 fights, except Bobby Lashley is undefeated, which further proves that this fight will determine who would win between them. Lashley has the better record, better record = better fighter. I'm not saying by a large margin, but you can't dispute the numbers, he's undefeated, Brock is not, simple as that. Brock's biggest win is against Frank Mir, it's also his only loss. Bobby Lashley just smashed Wes Sims, who DESTROYED a PRIME Frank Mir. The unified rules saved him from taking the L on his record, but I judged that fight by Pride criteria, those stomps were legal, and the ref didn't jump in to stop it because they were illegal moves, he stopped it because Frank Mir was clearly out, and could no longer continue. Wes Sims won that fight, but his victory was shortlived. The athletic commissions board of directors threw the rule book at him, a book that they edited from the time the fight was stopped, to just shortly before Bruce Buffer entered the cage to declare the winner.

 

So if Frank Mir beat Brock Lesnar, and Frank Mir got his head kicked in by Wes Sims, who just got his face punched out by Bobby Lashley, then Lashley vs. Fedor is MMA's true HW superfight. I've done my calculations, subtracted and carried the 2 when I had to, so now I've got it all figured out.

 

Bobby Lashley holds the answer to the biggest question in MMA. Brock and Bobby both have 5 fights, both were collegiate wrestlers, both have professional wrestling backgrounds, they are both the same height, both of them have the same initials, BL. The only difference is that one is white, and one is black. They are basically the same fighter, so the outcome would be the same. So when this match up happens in Strikeforce, it'll put the Fedor vs Brock debate to an end.. We will have our answer, so there really won't be a point to see the same fight again. I know that's the main fight people want to see Fedor sign to the UFC for. But I just don't see the 2 sides reaching an agreement.

 

At this point, there is really no point for Fedor to sign to the UFC, he can beat a better version of Brock in Strikeforce. It's like a fighter beating GSP(Bobby Lashley), it's obvious they'd easily beat Josh Koscheck(Brock Lesnar). It would go without saying, if Fedor can beat Lashley, then it's obvious he would rip Brock apart. So at that point, all hype for a Brock/Fedor fight would be dead. Why would people want to see a fight they already know the outcome to? Exactly, they wouldn't. So all you people acting like the world is going to end if Fedor doesn't ever sign with the UFC, just stop. This fight will happen.

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ok..let me start off by sayin wow..didnt frank mir put wes down twice?? bobby lashley may be undefeated but i still think if him and brock ever fought bobby would lose..bobby doesnt look as fast as lesner..plus brock is bigger than him..

 

the first fight mir was, infact, gettin his face stomped in, and he got the DQ so wes was whoopin him

and 2nd, you need to learn to read

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ok..let me start off by sayin wow..didnt frank mir put wes down twice?? bobby lashley may be undefeated but i still think if him and brock ever fought bobby would lose..bobby doesnt look as fast as lesner..plus brock is bigger than him..

 

Wes beat frank. and Bobby beat Wes when Wes had only one week of training. Plus Bobby didnt show much skill in his fight With Sims. Just caveman gnp. The only answer is to just have them fight. Nothing else will answer that. Bobby is not Brock. You cant ever just predict a fight like that. Hell Serra knocked GSP out. It will always be up in the air as far as Brock and Fedor. Until the day they actually fight.

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The answer to the biggest question in MMA' date=' will be answered in Strikeforce. No, Brock will not go to Strikeforce to fight Fedor. Matter of fact, they don't even need to fight eachother for this question to be answered. Strikeforce is going to answer that question for everyone, and put the debate to rest once and for all.

 

The answer to this question lies with Bobby Lashley. He is an exact carbon copy of Brock Lesnar. They both have 5 fights, except Bobby Lashley is undefeated, which further proves that this fight will determine who would win between them. Lashley has the better record, better record = better fighter. I'm not saying by a large margin, but you can't dispute the numbers, he's undefeated, Brock is not, simple as that. Brock's biggest win is against Frank Mir, it's also his only loss. Bobby Lashley just smashed Wes Sims, who DESTROYED a PRIME Frank Mir. The unified rules saved him from taking the L on his record, but I judged that fight by Pride criteria, those stomps were legal, and the ref didn't jump in to stop it because they were illegal moves, he stopped it because Frank Mir was clearly out, and could no longer continue. Wes Sims won that fight, but his victory was shortlived. The athletic commissions board of directors threw the rule book at him, a book that they edited from the time the fight was stopped, to just shortly before Bruce Buffer entered the cage to declare the winner.

 

So if Frank Mir beat Brock Lesnar, and Frank Mir got his head kicked in by Wes Sims, who just got his face punched out by Bobby Lashley, then Lashley vs. Fedor is MMA's true HW superfight. I've done my calculations, subtracted and carried the 2 when I had to, so now I've got it all figured out.

 

Bobby Lashley holds the answer to the biggest question in MMA. Brock and Bobby both have 5 fights, both were collegiate wrestlers, both have professional wrestling backgrounds, they are both the same height, both of them have the same initials, BL. The only difference is that one is white, and one is black. They are basically the same fighter, so the outcome would be the same. So when this match up happens in Strikeforce, it'll put the Fedor vs Brock debate to an end.. We will have our answer, so there really won't be a point to see the same fight again. I know that's the main fight people want to see Fedor sign to the UFC for. But I just don't see the 2 sides reaching an agreement.

 

At this point, there is really no point for Fedor to sign to the UFC, he can beat a better version of Brock in Strikeforce. It's like a fighter beating GSP(Bobby Lashley), it's obvious they'd easily beat Josh Koscheck(Brock Lesnar). It would go without saying, if Fedor can beat Lashley, then it's obvious he would rip Brock apart. So at that point, all hype for a Brock/Fedor fight would be dead. Why would people want to see a fight they already know the outcome to? Exactly, they wouldn't. So all you people acting like the world is going to end if Fedor doesn't ever sign with the UFC, just stop. This fight will happen.[/quote']

 

Kieth Jardine beat Chuck liddell, Chuck Liddell beat W. Silva, W. Silva beat Kieth Jardine, How does your math answer that?

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The answer to the biggest question in MMA' date=' will be answered in Strikeforce. No, Brock will not go to Strikeforce to fight Fedor. Matter of fact, they don't even need to fight eachother for this question to be answered. Strikeforce is going to answer that question for everyone, and put the debate to rest once and for all.

 

The answer to this question lies with Bobby Lashley. He is an exact carbon copy of Brock Lesnar. They both have 5 fights, except Bobby Lashley is undefeated, which further proves that this fight will determine who would win between them. Lashley has the better record, better record = better fighter. I'm not saying by a large margin, but you can't dispute the numbers, he's undefeated, Brock is not, simple as that. Brock's biggest win is against Frank Mir, it's also his only loss. Bobby Lashley just smashed Wes Sims, who DESTROYED a PRIME Frank Mir. The unified rules saved him from taking the L on his record, but I judged that fight by Pride criteria, those stomps were legal, and the ref didn't jump in to stop it because they were illegal moves, he stopped it because Frank Mir was clearly out, and could no longer continue. Wes Sims won that fight, but his victory was shortlived. The athletic commissions board of directors threw the rule book at him, a book that they edited from the time the fight was stopped, to just shortly before Bruce Buffer entered the cage to declare the winner.

 

So if Frank Mir beat Brock Lesnar, and Frank Mir got his head kicked in by Wes Sims, who just got his face punched out by Bobby Lashley, then Lashley vs. Fedor is MMA's true HW superfight. I've done my calculations, subtracted and carried the 2 when I had to, so now I've got it all figured out.

 

Bobby Lashley holds the answer to the biggest question in MMA. Brock and Bobby both have 5 fights, both were collegiate wrestlers, both have professional wrestling backgrounds, they are both the same height, both of them have the same initials, BL. The only difference is that one is white, and one is black. They are basically the same fighter, so the outcome would be the same. So when this match up happens in Strikeforce, it'll put the Fedor vs Brock debate to an end.. We will have our answer, so there really won't be a point to see the same fight again. I know that's the main fight people want to see Fedor sign to the UFC for. But I just don't see the 2 sides reaching an agreement.

 

At this point, there is really no point for Fedor to sign to the UFC, he can beat a better version of Brock in Strikeforce. It's like a fighter beating GSP(Bobby Lashley), it's obvious they'd easily beat Josh Koscheck(Brock Lesnar). It would go without saying, if Fedor can beat Lashley, then it's obvious he would rip Brock apart. So at that point, all hype for a Brock/Fedor fight would be dead. Why would people want to see a fight they already know the outcome to? Exactly, they wouldn't. So all you people acting like the world is going to end if Fedor doesn't ever sign with the UFC, just stop. This fight will happen.[/quote']

 

Your logic must come from being raped by your blow up doll all nite, cuz if you think your philosophy holds true you then I can beat Anderson Silva with arm tied behind my back. Your dad should've just masturbated the night you were conceived cuz it's clear you're a waste of sperm!!!

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Epic Fail!

 

dude mma is not mathmatics just beacuse two fighters have the same record and fight with the same style deosn't mean that they're copies of each other. Saying hey fighter A beat fighter B but fighter B lost to C who beat A , just STOP that is the most rediculous logic I've ever heard, in fact it isn't logical at all. IF THAT WERE TRUE THEN ALMOST EVERY FIGHTER HAS ALREADY BEAT EVERY FIGHTER!!!

 

If Lashley and Fador fight no matter the outcome it will not stop people from still wanting Brock and Fador to fight, except for maybe you, but its you and maybe like 3 other people that think what you just said makes sense

 

Super Mega Epic KammayHa-MayHa Fail! to the third power

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I agree that Fedor would beat both but you'd still have to see him fight both fighters to determine it. UFC is the top organization so Fedor needs to either fight in it or fight the top heavyweight from it to cement his legacy as the best. Beating someone with a certain build and style does not mean he'd beat everyone with that same build/style, regardless of how long the thread is.

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Another question...why are senior members on forums so far up each other backsides on forums? Every damn forum you go to....

Bobby Lashley is not like lesnar.

1 He has not beaten Randy Couture,Frank Mir or Heath Herring. They were tougher opponents than Bobby Lashleys oppponents.

2 Brock has stopped taking steroids & it shows ALOT,How many of you out there look at Bobby & think he isnt taking steroids at all. He just does a few push ups now & again.

3 Bobby is maybe as big as Lesnar but does not have his speed or strength.

4 I know that if Bobby ever does fight Fedor many people including me still would like to see the Lesnar vs Fedor fight.

I dont like all of Lesnars stupid comments,he seems like a cruel judgemental person.As a fighter though i do look forward to his fights.He demolishes people.He is improving with every fight. Lashley too could be special in time....he needs to fight some one that actually has more than a big mouth though.Peace.

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Please don't feed the troll. And wtf is wrong with you people that think AKs posts are original/clever? I don't even have to see who the thread creator is to know it must be AK by about 3 sentences in. It is literally like he sits there and says, "what is the most absurd thing I can post today... and what kind of ****-backwards logic can I apply to make it seem witty and well thought out?"

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The answer to the biggest question in MMA' date=' will be answered in Strikeforce. No, Brock will not go to Strikeforce to fight Fedor. Matter of fact, they don't even need to fight eachother for this question to be answered. Strikeforce is going to answer that question for everyone, and put the debate to rest once and for all.

 

The answer to this question lies with Bobby Lashley. He is an exact carbon copy of Brock Lesnar. They both have 5 fights, except Bobby Lashley is undefeated, which further proves that this fight will determine who would win between them. Lashley has the better record, better record = better fighter. I'm not saying by a large margin, but you can't dispute the numbers, he's undefeated, Brock is not, simple as that. Brock's biggest win is against Frank Mir, it's also his only loss. Bobby Lashley just smashed Wes Sims, who DESTROYED a PRIME Frank Mir. The unified rules saved him from taking the L on his record, but I judged that fight by Pride criteria, those stomps were legal, and the ref didn't jump in to stop it because they were illegal moves, he stopped it because Frank Mir was clearly out, and could no longer continue. Wes Sims won that fight, but his victory was shortlived. The athletic commissions board of directors threw the rule book at him, a book that they edited from the time the fight was stopped, to just shortly before Bruce Buffer entered the cage to declare the winner.

 

So if Frank Mir beat Brock Lesnar, and Frank Mir got his head kicked in by Wes Sims, who just got his face punched out by Bobby Lashley, then Lashley vs. Fedor is MMA's true HW superfight. I've done my calculations, subtracted and carried the 2 when I had to, so now I've got it all figured out.

 

Bobby Lashley holds the answer to the biggest question in MMA. Brock and Bobby both have 5 fights, both were collegiate wrestlers, both have professional wrestling backgrounds, they are both the same height, both of them have the same initials, BL. The only difference is that one is white, and one is black. They are basically the same fighter, so the outcome would be the same. So when this match up happens in Strikeforce, it'll put the Fedor vs Brock debate to an end.. We will have our answer, so there really won't be a point to see the same fight again. I know that's the main fight people want to see Fedor sign to the UFC for. But I just don't see the 2 sides reaching an agreement.

 

At this point, there is really no point for Fedor to sign to the UFC, he can beat a better version of Brock in Strikeforce. It's like a fighter beating GSP(Bobby Lashley), it's obvious they'd easily beat Josh Koscheck(Brock Lesnar). It would go without saying, if Fedor can beat Lashley, then it's obvious he would rip Brock apart. So at that point, all hype for a Brock/Fedor fight would be dead. Why would people want to see a fight they already know the outcome to? Exactly, they wouldn't. So all you people acting like the world is going to end if Fedor doesn't ever sign with the UFC, just stop. This fight will happen.[/quote']

 

Is this guy serious? LMFAO !!! ROFL!!!!!!

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ummm mir was dominating the fight against sims until he got booted in the face which IS against ufc rules and they were fightitng in the ufc. sims also got beat by mir again. also brock has fought couture and herring, both better than sims. so considering sims was suppossed to be the real test and is a sub par fighter imo, and also took the fight on a weeks notice i think its fair to say lashley is yet to face opponents the same caliber of those brock faced. meaning your numbers dont crunch too well

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Your logic must come from being raped by your blow up doll all nite' date=' cuz if you think your philosophy holds true you then I can beat Anderson Silva with arm tied behind my back. Your dad should've just masturbated the night you were conceived cuz it's clear you're a waste of sperm!!![/quote']

 

yeah i agree, what your saying is ridiculous because all fighters improve with time. i mean, bobby sure hes not bad fighter, i dont like brock but niether is he, but not all fighers have the same mind state..... hands down the answer to this question is, on a given night any fighter can be beat. who knows what would happen.

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I've been watching MMA too long to not know what I'm talking about. I'm an 8th degree black belt too, so that right there just proves that I have mad credibility son.

 

It wasn't my intention to make Brock fans mad, but I just had to be real with you. You'll know your answer to the Brock vs Fedor fight, when Fedor fights Lashley. That's all there is to it..

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this is retarded. who the hell thinks like this? so if i beat up a guy on the street, and he goes to a gym with another guy and beats him, then that guy works his way into a cage fighting league and wins a match against seth p, does that mean i can whomp kimbo??? YES!!!

 

no you idiot. lashley had a lot to improve, and will possibly be a good fighter. but not yet. brock would definitely beat him. personally i think brock can beat fedor, but that's justmy opinion. i will say that fedor and lashley probably won't even fight for a long time, if ever. and in an interview with dana white on jim rome, he said he's tried to make the fedor/brock fight happen and fedor's people won't budge.

 

ultimately this question probably won't ever be answered. and the only way to answer it is for them to fight. i don't believe there is any competition for fedor in strikeforce, and that's probably how it will stay until he's ready for the big leagues. and as much as i do watch strikeforce and enjoy all mma as a whole. it's really not up to par with ufc. i mean come on strikeforce: miami wasn't anything spectacular but lawler's surprise knockout after getting his legs tore up.

 

as for wes sims, he blows and shouldn't ever fight again.

 

since day 1! LOL

 

-enjoy!

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! EPIC FAIL OF A THREAD!!!! What you have been sayin is stupid horses""t!!!! You cant even compare Brock to Lashley! And u think you know s""t cuz ur allegedly a blackbelt! HAHAHAHAHA. P.S. I dont even like brock but uv made urself look a right tool!

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! EPIC FAIL OF A THREAD!!!! What you have been sayin is stupid horses""t!!!! You cant even compare Brock to Lashley! And u think you know s""t cuz ur allegedly a blackbelt! HAHAHAHAHA. P.S. I dont even like brock but uv made urself look a right tool!

 

Bro.. I've snapped people's necks in the street for talkin that mess around me. I'm probably the only person alive that has snapped people's necks with a full nelson. My hands are registered as deadly weapons, and I'm out on parole right now. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to fighting. Trust me.

 

I've studied tape, all their finishes have come on the ground, and they both each have a fight that went the distance. It's probably not too wise to disagree with me, I go to UFC events looking for trouble. Last time someone disagreed with me at a UFC event I hung em over the guard railing in the upperdeck by a full nelson. I was in line buying beer, dude cut infront of me, instead of apologizing he threw on his tapout shirt like he was about to do something, so I threw him in a full nelson, dislocated both of his shoulders, then push kicked him to the back of the line. You think anyone else in that arena got out of line with me that night? Yeah right.. Clowns showing up to UFC events to get their **** kicked, the hell are they thinking.

 

The point is don't question my MMA knowledge. I'm a professor and a historian, I know what the hell I'm talking about.

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I don't understand your logic at all. Didn't you see Wes fight on the Ultimate Fighter? He was terrible at best. No two fighters match up the same. And what the hell does beeing a black belt do for you in credibility on these forums. I am a black belt too and don't feel that gives me the right to post stupid sh#$% like you just did. We will never know who is better between the two unless they actually fight!

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I don't understand your logic at all. Didn't you see Wes fight on the Ultimate Fighter? He was terrible at best. No two fighters match up the same. And what the hell does beeing a black belt do for you in credibility on these forums. I am a black belt too and don't feel that gives me the right to post stupid sh#$% like you just did. We will never know who is better between the two unless they actually fight!

 

I'm a black belt too. As a matter of fact everyone in this thread is a black belt so that makes them right. It doesn't matter that everyone says different things, everyone's right and UFC caliber black belts.

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How did I miss this!? It was staring everyone in the eye! The hate must have clouded judgment or the UFC must have been riding lawsuits against Strikeforce to keep this a secret.

 

Wes... That man plays Rock, Paper, Scissors like a pro. Except he replaces paper with headstomps.

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this is retarded. who the hell thinks like this? so if i beat up a guy on the street' date=' and he goes to a gym with another guy and beats him, then that guy works his way into a cage fighting league and wins a match against seth p, does that mean i can whomp kimbo??? YES!!!

 

no you idiot. lashley had a lot to improve, and will possibly be a good fighter. but not yet. brock would definitely beat him. personally i think brock can beat fedor, but that's justmy opinion. i will say that fedor and lashley probably won't even fight for a long time, if ever. and in an interview with dana white on jim rome, he said he's tried to make the fedor/brock fight happen and fedor's people won't budge.

 

ultimately this question probably won't ever be answered. and the only way to answer it is for them to fight. i don't believe there is any competition for fedor in strikeforce, and that's probably how it will stay until he's ready for the big leagues. and as much as i do watch strikeforce and enjoy all mma as a whole. it's really not up to par with ufc. i mean come on strikeforce: miami wasn't anything spectacular but lawler's surprise knockout after getting his legs tore up.

 

as for wes sims, he blows and shouldn't ever fight again.

 

since day 1! LOL

 

-enjoy![/quote']

 

 

LMAO

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If Lashley was half the wrestler or fighter that Lesnar was I might agree. As it stands he's a guy that had to grind a decision out against Jason Guida, and looked like crap against Wes Sims.

 

What would his record look like if he fought Herring, Mir x 2 and Couture?

 

An awful lot like 0-4.

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Please don't feed the troll. And wtf is wrong with you people that think AKs posts are original/clever? I don't even have to see who the thread creator is to know it must be AK by about 3 sentences in. It is literally like he sits there and says' date=' "what is the most absurd thing I can post today... and what kind of ****-backwards logic can I apply to make it seem witty and well thought out?"[/quote']

 

well said sir!

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I've been watching MMA too long to not know what I'm talking about. I'm an 8th degree black belt too' date=' so that right there just proves that I have mad credibility son.

 

It wasn't my intention to make Brock fans mad, but I just had to be real with you. You'll know your answer to the Brock vs Fedor fight, when Fedor fights Lashley. That's all there is to it..[/quote']

 

u got ur blackbelt from playing ufc undisputed..? .. just kidding lol

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o and AK' date=' so genius. touche[/quote']

 

Genius? He gets his jollies off enraging new members by posting garbage and using what he thinks to be witty analogies and correlations. The people who want to come on here and intelligently discuss MMA have their time wasted by AK. He doesn't get banned because he's buddy buddy with the mods. Its blatant favoritism and IMO hurting the forum.

 

I understand your backwards logic to try to get newer members to research and become more knowledgeable but it seems childish to me.

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Genius? He gets his jollies off enraging new members by posting garbage and using what he thinks to be witty analogies and correlations. The people who want to come on here and intelligently discuss MMA have their time wasted by AK. He doesn't get banned because he's buddy buddy with the mods. Its blatant favoritism and IMO hurting the forum.

 

I understand your backwards logic to try to get newer members to research and become more knowledgeable but it seems childish to me.

 

I agree tbh, you can't claim that it is genius, even though most people will look into Bobby Lashley after reading this. Trolls are Trolls. Shouldn't be hated(that's what they want) or loved.

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Bro.. I've snapped people's necks in the street for talkin that mess around me. I'm probably the only person alive that has snapped people's necks with a full nelson. My hands are registered as deadly weapons' date=' and I'm out on parole right now. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to fighting. Trust me.

 

I've studied tape, all their finishes have come on the ground, and they both each have a fight that went the distance. It's probably not too wise to disagree with me, I go to UFC events looking for trouble. Last time someone disagreed with me at a UFC event I hung em over the guard railing in the upperdeck by a full nelson. I was in line buying beer, dude cut infront of me, instead of apologizing he threw on his tapout shirt like he was about to do something, so I threw him in a full nelson, dislocated both of his shoulders, then push kicked him to the back of the line. You think anyone else in that arena got out of line with me that night? Yeah right.. Clowns showing up to UFC events to get their **** kicked, the hell are they thinking.

 

The point is don't question my MMA knowledge. I'm a professor and a historian, I know what the hell I'm talking about.[/quote']

 

He's such a genius, he should make something out of this! i dno what but he could go somewhere with his humour, his posts are legendary.5* for the LEGEND that is AK

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