AvengerdDub Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 should be interesting http://mmajunkie.com/news/17777/tuf-10-champ-roy-nelson-meets-stefan-struve-not-james-toney-at-ufc-fight-night-21.mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 should be interesting http://mmajunkie.com/news/17777/tuf-10-champ-roy-nelson-meets-stefan-struve-not-james-toney-at-ufc-fight-night-21.mma already been posted awhile ago http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.net/showthread.php?t=18601&highlight=nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 already been posted awhile ago http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.net/showthread.php?t=18601&highlight=nelson wellll excuuuuuuse me, its been made official, TODAY, so thanks for your correction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenextbigthing93 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Struve would probaly frustrate nelson in the stand up with his big reach. But if Nelson gets close to Struve he would most likely go for a takedown or clinch with him. I got Nelson via decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Struve would probaly frustrate nelson in the stand up with his big reach. But if Nelson gets close to Struve he would most likely go for a takedown or clinch with him. I got Nelson via decision. yeah once Big Belly is on top of you he has too much control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenextbigthing93 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 yeah once Big Belly is on top of you he has too much control Agreed but if Struve has him in closed guard, its going to be hard for nelson to pass his guard with his lanky legs. But i won't be suprised if either win by submission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyTH_MMA Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Gonna root for Struve, but Nelson has more tools. Struve will need to use his reach to his advantage more-so than he did against Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbowen Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 when is this fight nite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 wellll excuuuuuuse me' date=' its been made official, TODAY, so thanks for your correction?[/quote'] oh really how could have it been made official when the event hasnt even been announced, so your wrong, you dont know anything about rumored and official fight bookings why dont you go back and actually read that mmajunkie article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoj3323 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 when is this fight nite heres the date and locale for you man http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-event/UFC-Fight-Night-21.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carica1406052318 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Should be a good fight. It will be funny for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 oh really how could have it been made official when the event hasnt even been announced' date='so your wrong, you dont know anything about rumored and official fight bookings why dont you go back and actually read that mmajunkie article[/quote'] why dont you tell me WTH your talking about?!!?!? i read it, and havent said anything other then the article? in fact ive only stated one thing about the article so WTH are you on!? and the event has been talked about for quite some time to be the lead-in event to the next season of TUF. speculation was before and now its confirmed? whats your beef huh? fail fail fail on your part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 when is this fight nite Fight Night 21 which leads into a new season of The Ultimate Fighter, suppose to take place March 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 even a skyscraper can't get the moon of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 big county for the win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 nelsons heavier more powerful with uber experience over Struve...look what he did to Brendan Schaub a strong striker?nelson knocked him out...nelsons got a good chin so struves striking should be no problem for nelson,what struve should worry about is nelson getting close to drop the bomb on struves chin...it could be over that quick b4 nelson takes him down...and if it goes down nelson will submit struve as sure as Dana White is bald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestfan52 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 nelsons heavier more powerful with uber experience over Struve...look what he did to Brendan Schaub a strong striker?nelson knocked him out...nelsons got a good chin so struves striking should be no problem for nelson' date='what struve should worry about is nelson getting close to drop the bomb on struves chin...it could be over that quick b4 nelson takes him down...and if it goes down nelson will submit struve as sure as Dana White is bald[/quote'] that was extremely well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMcCluskey Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 nelsons heavier more powerful with uber experience over Struve...look what he did to Brendan Schaub a strong striker?nelson knocked him out...nelsons got a good chin so struves striking should be no problem for nelson' date='what struve should worry about is nelson getting close to drop the bomb on struves chin...it could be over that quick b4 nelson takes him down...and if it goes down nelson will submit struve as sure as Dana White is bald[/quote'] Who says that Schaub is a solid striker, he's only fought 5 times. Struve has more fights and more wins than Nelson. Who the hell has Nelson fought AND beat that was any better than who Struve has fought. Don't doubt the Dutchman, he has put on mass for each fight and will not be a cake walk for fatboy. Struve by triangle 3rd rnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I thought that the UFC didn't like putting on these freak shows, 6'11 vs a 265lb belly It should be interesting and as buddy quoted rampage earlier even a skyscraper can't get the moon off of it. If Struve is reading this, work on your footwork cause if this guy get you down even your legs won't be able to put him in guard let alone a body triangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K22UFC Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I didnt expect Big Country to be given this tough of a fight in his first match since winning the show. I cant wait for this. I like both fighters but I hope Big Country wins to keep the momentum going after winning the show unlike James Wilks. UFN 21 is a stacked card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallmeMrT Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Big Country is just so likeable... He is giving hope back to the typical American dad physique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jng1 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 big country annoys me and i hope he loses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tool46ntwo Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I rode with my father in a logging truck on the week nights and weekends. Not for pay just to be with my dad. One of the greatest 2 syllable words out there was TIMBER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 People will keep underestimating Nelson and he'll keep wining. The guy has crazy ground skills(has beaten Mir in bjj match), decent striking and a good chin. I promise that the haters are going to be very frustrated by this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd425 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i have roy winning this thing i mean struve is a great fighter but lacks experience i think roy will tko him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jng1 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 People will keep underestimating Nelson and he'll keep wining. The guy has crazy ground skills(has beaten Mir in bjj match)' date=' decent striking and a good chin. I promise that the haters are going to be very frustrated by this guy.[/quote'] yeah i can see this guy annoying me a lot, i don't hate him, but i don't like him at all, and i really want struve to win, but i could easily see this fight going to nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceBlack Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Although Big Country has more skill than Struve for sure the difference in size will be a difficult obstacle. Nelson doesn't have the raw power to do what JDS did to Struve and really threaten the big guy making a takedown absolutely necessary to secure a victory for Nelson... With that in mind Nelson has to be one of the shortest Heavy's at 6'0" vs Struve at 6'11" and a loooong 6'11' at that. I have Struve taking this one but Big Country Fired Steak has been nothing but surprises for me so I’m not saying anything is for sure here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMcCluskey Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 People will keep underestimating Nelson and he'll keep wining. The guy has crazy ground skills(has beaten Mir in bjj match)' date=' decent striking and a good chin. I promise that the haters are going to be very frustrated by this guy.[/quote'] it was a grappling match not bjj and it was 7 years ago i have roy winning this thing i mean struve is a great fighter but lacks experience i think roy will tko him. why does everyone say Nelson is WAY more experienced than Struve? Struve has more fights and more wins Struve by triangle (only legs in the UFC that can reach all the way around) end of the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 it was a grappling match not bjj and it was 7 years ago why does everyone say Nelson is WAY more experienced than Struve? Struve has more fights and more wins Struve by triangle (only legs in the UFC that can reach all the way around) end of the 2nd Grappling/BJJ whatever, he still beat him and I'm sure that Nelson is better now than he was 7 years ago. Roy was also beating Arlovski before the BS standup but I wouldn't expect you to know that because aside from TUF you've never seen any of his fights and just like all the other **** noob fans here you don't know what your talking about. As much as you'd like it to be this isn't the WWE and the fighter with best roided up physique and most badass persona doesn't always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I say Struve takes this. I know Nelson has some skills and some great experience, but I think this is a bad match-up for him. If Struve can use his reach I think it will be a long night for big country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMcCluskey Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Grappling/BJJ whatever' date=' he still beat him and I'm sure that Nelson is better now than he was 7 years ago. Roy was also beating Arlovski before the BS standup but I wouldn't expect you to know that because aside from TUF you've never seen any of his fights and just like all the other **** noob fans here you don't know what your talking about. As much as you'd like it to be this isn't the WWE and the fighter with best roided up physique and most badass persona doesn't always win.[/quote'] you know nothing about me kid, just because I'm new to this forum doesn't mean I'm an idiot. No, I have never watched wrasslin either. I don't think Struve has a roided up physique anyway. You have a valid point on the Arlovski fight, but he still lost. BTW-just because someone disagrees with you doesn't that you need to hurl insults, we are all just fans of the sport. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Going by his last fight Struve is in big trouble. Roy is the wring guy to try and trades shots with and slap high fives. He's a better than good finsher. And you need to make a plane and execute it, because if you go out and start improvising he will kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 People will keep underestimating Nelson and he'll keep wining. The guy has crazy ground skills(has beaten Mir in bjj match)' date=' decent striking and a good chin. I promise that the haters are going to be very frustrated by this guy.[/quote'] that match was a long time ago, take a close look, Big Belly was actually in shape and Mir, not at all, it was a pure BJJ match and that's not anything like MMA, believe me I have been in Jiu-Jitsu tournies for years now. Although Big Country has more skill than Struve for sure the difference in size will be a difficult obstacle. Nelson doesn't have the raw power to do what JDS did to Struve and really threaten the big guy making a takedown absolutely necessary to secure a victory for Nelson... With that in mind Nelson has to be one of the shortest Heavy's at 6'0" vs Struve at 6'11" and a loooong 6'11' at that. I have Struve taking this one but Big Country Fired Steak has been nothing but surprises for me so I?m not saying anything is for sure here. Nelson has Raw power. I'm sure of it. He's rocked people multiple times. and with his lower center of gravity against Struve, he will have IMMENSE strength when it comes to punching and grappling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerdDub Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 you know nothing about me kid' date=' just because I'm new to this forum doesn't mean I'm an idiot. No, I have never watched wrasslin either. I don't think Struve has a roided up physique anyway. You have a valid point on the Arlovski fight, but he still lost. BTW-just because someone disagrees with you doesn't that you need to hurl insults, we are all just fans of the sport. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it[/quote'] amen, more respect is just what these forums actually need. You stay Classy, UFC Forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_Spawn Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Big Country will close the distance with his great foot work, clinch him, body lock with a trip, and then place that fat belly over Struves' chest and do what he does best, TKO him with relentless elbows to the cranium. Nelson by TKO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 that match was a long time ago' date=' take a close look, Big Belly was actually in shape and Mir, not at all, it was a pure BJJ match and that's not anything like MMA, believe me I have been in Jiu-Jitsu tournies for years now. Nelson has Raw power. I'm sure of it. He's rocked people multiple times. and with his lower center of gravity against Struve, he will have IMMENSE strength when it comes to punching and grappling.[/quote'] +1 struve doesn't have the power, wrestling, strength or technique standing or on the ground. His reach wont be enough against nelson, thought the reach difference is insane, 74 to 83 i think it is? as struve matures and fills out though he will become a big threat to the top heavyweights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMcCluskey Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 +1 struve doesn't have the power' date=' wrestling, strength or technique standing or on the ground. His reach wont be enough against nelson, thought the reach difference is insane, 74 to 83 i think it is? as struve matures and fills out though he will become a big threat to the top heavyweights[/quote'] I'm interested to see how much mass Struve will have put on for this fight, I think he went up around 11 lbs before he fought the Headhunter, maybe he can come in around 255 or 260 for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I'm interested to see how much mass Struve will have put on for this fight' date=' I think he went up around 11 lbs before he fought the Headhunter, maybe he can come in around 255 or 260 for this one.[/quote'] yeah but big country looks to be getting in better shape with ever fight passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBenjamin Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 theres no way i can see struve submittin roy nelson, struve hasnt fought many top guys yet and when he did (dos santos) he got ko'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBenjamin Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Grappling/BJJ whatever' date=' he still beat him and I'm sure that Nelson is better now than he was 7 years ago. Roy was also beating Arlovski before the BS standup but I wouldn't expect you to know that because aside from TUF you've never seen any of his fights and just like all the other **** noob fans here you don't know what your talking about. As much as you'd like it to be this isn't the WWE and the fighter with best roided up physique and most badass persona doesn't always win.[/quote'] i seen the roy - mir tape, and IMO though roy did beat him with the point system, i think if mir was in the shape he is now it wouldve been different cuz he had the better techniques in the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adaMs06 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 As much as i hate him Roy "****" nelson will get the TKO 1st round by belly suffacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaneonthemembrane Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 i got struve in this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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