sjameson6969 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Jon jones is one of my favourite fighters, altough I can't help but think he's fighting Vera too early? Brandon Vera is a top contender who'd be a real handful for any guy at 205. My view has changed recently on Jones, I think he's defo a future champion, but I don't wanna see him lose this early. I could be very wrong here though and he could stop Vera, if he does where u think that puts him in the 205 mix? Thoughts please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott__hutchy Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 this is UFC not boxing were they look out 4 up and comers records he's beaten quite a few and hamill should of at least been a no contest so therefore he's worthy to fight vera should be entertaining both good strikers to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStandard Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i think he'll do fine against vera. not too soon at all imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I like jones too, he's got mad potential. It will definately be interesting to see how he does against a fighter like Vera who I agree is a legit contender. I don't think a loss would derail jones' career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenextbigthing93 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i got vera by tko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOGMAN Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think Jones is more explosive, more athletic, a better striker and wrestler. I look for him to handle Vera either by UD or late TKO. I didn't see anything from the Vera vs Couture fight to make me think other wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guti Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Jon jones is top 10 for sure ... Vera is a perfect opponent to test jones.. Anyone noticed that Jon jones and ryan bader have been given the top 2 gatekeepers in the LHW (Vera and Jardine) Perfect test for both of them , this will pretty much determine if they are a force in the LHW or if they still need more time to become a force in the LHW ... Matt hammill was given the same test and he fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatadvocate86 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Yea its not really to early, Vera has fought a who's who more so than Jones but he's comin off a loss, well I dont think he lost but i'm not a judge, so he does kinda need to face someone lower on the food chain which just due to lack of named fights happens to be Jones, and they no styles make fights ppl love and this ones got War written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossack Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think the reasons Jones has been given Vera so early is that it'll one of two things: 1) it'll justify Jones, and answer a lot of question about him. Finally showing that he is for real and not just a guy who's overwhelmed other young fighters. This time he's fighting someone with credibility (more than bonnor had) that'll show he's ligit. 2) it'll rebound Vera off his loss over a proven up and comer, showing that he more than a gate keeper and is ready to start his comeback again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think it's a step up in competition for him, but i think that Bones will be able to strike with him, and he has great greco roman wrestling. Hats off to Joe Silva for creating this matchup, i don't think they could have made a better stylistic matchup for either one to show off their skills I've said it before on another thread but Jones by triple axle spinning back elbow, round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys_ufc Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 He didn't lose to Hamill, he destroyed him so it's not as if he has to rebuild after taking a loss.Vera is a nice step up in competition in my opinion, i can see Jones taking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys_ufc Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think it's a step up in competition for him' date=' but i think that Bones will be able to strike with him, and he has great greco roman wrestling. Hats off to Joe Silva for creating this matchup, i don't think they could have made a better stylistic matchup for either one to show off their skills I've said it before on another thread but Jones by triple axle spinning back elbow, round 2[/quote'] I thought Jones was freestyle? Vera has a Greco background, he is no joke on the ground or in the clinch.Tough fight for Jones but hopefully he can come out the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndisputedKing Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i got vera by tko. I do too. But as stated by TheTerribleWilliamson, i dont think a lose to some one like Vera would throw him off track to bad. I dont think it'll be an easy win by either Vera or Jones, should be a great fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbowen Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i think jones can take him, i think hes ready and he'll come out with the win by KO rnd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I thought Jones was freestyle? Vera has a Greco background' date=' he is no joke on the ground or in the clinch.Tough fight for Jones but hopefully he can come out the winner.[/quote'] Jones might be freestyle wrestler im not sure, and i understand that Vera has a very good wrestling pedigree as well, i mean Couture couldn't take him down. His Muay Thai is top notch so this will be a difficult fight for Jones. The way Jones took down Hamill (an amazing wrestler as well) with ease, makes me believe that he could very well do it to Vera. This is his second camp with GSP so his wrestling will continue to evolve. If Jones gets on top of you he is flat out relentless and I really hope he pulls this one out. The sky is the limit for this kid, No Bones about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of150a84 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Vera's strikings no joke and Jones just destroys ppl in the clinch with throws and strikes and veras alot better in the clinch than anyone jones has fought. Its gunna be a sick fight i dont think i can call a victor here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceBlack Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 If he was getting a fight against another competitor who would it be? Vera is a good challenge for Jones and set to be a great matchup of styles, at least on paper. He's put a lot of work in and it has showed where his sill set is at the moment... regardless if he wins or loses this is a good fight for both fighters. I have Jones taking this one decisively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankz331 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 watching jones reminds me alot of anderson silva when he was koing guys in pride I think jones will win this and will 1 day be the lhw champ. Love watching this guy fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo86 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i think jones has more in the mix up striking depatment but vera is a lot more esperienced. No matter what the outcome, this will be a great fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_MC Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I don't think so, Jones is a big challenge and so is Vera, but he has to work his way back up after that last loss!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Too early is a loaded question in the UFC. Some fighters have stepped in with almost no experience and been thrown right agains the wolves and some have beat can after can. that being said Vera is a huge jump in competition vs. Hamil in my opinion but even still I look for a good fight with my prediction being more along the lines of it could go either way. I like Jone's wrestling but he's not faced a striker of Vera's caliber so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remedx Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Vera will win with his far superior technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbowen Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i think bones will KO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR_Ryder Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Jones will absolutely DESTROY Vera..... it won't even be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undisputed_rush Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 He could maybe of done with a few more fights but when he's destroying guys why bother? think about it, franklin didn't beat hammil nearly a convincingly as jones (I know he lost but honestly, who would count that as a loss) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjameson6969 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Reckon people are underestimating vera a bit. It'll be close I think, but Jones I hope takes it! Love this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbowen Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 hope bones takes it, i love bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Jon jones is one of my favourite fighters' date=' altough I can't help but think he's fighting Vera too early? Brandon Vera is a top contender who'd be a real handful for any guy at 205. My view has changed recently on Jones, I think he's defo a future champion, but I don't wanna see him lose this early. I could be very wrong here though and he could stop Vera, if he does where u think that puts him in the 205 mix? Thoughts please???[/quote'] i like jones as well...perfect match-up for him and a good test...what he did to hamill was simply outstanding...he has the potential to be what A Silva is to the MW...and hes only 22?wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjameson6969 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I'd love to see Jones and Anderson if Jones keeps winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack_415 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 nah he will beat vera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZadar Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I'd love to see Jones and Anderson if Jones keeps winning! +1...that would be sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 All you have to do is look at my sig to see what I think. I've been pretty good at picking out great fighters. Jones is one of the best up and comers I have ever seen. Vera is a really talented individual. It'll be a good fight, but I have a sneaky suspicion that Jones is about to prove why there is a lot of buzz surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 are you serious he has destroyed everyone he's fought and is now a top ten fighter who wants to see him fighting some chump who can't possibly beat him. vera is a great fight for him as both guys are up and coming fighters, and if he wins he'll be one good win away from a title shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martino231 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Not at all. Jones absolutely dominated Hamill, who isn't a million miles apart from Vera in terms of skill. I think this will be a test for Jones but I don't think Vera will be able to do much against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirerat Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Not at all. Jones absolutely dominated Hamill' date=' who isn't a million miles apart from Vera in terms of skill. I think this will be a test for Jones but I don't think Vera will be able to do much against him.[/quote'] Vera is quite a large chunk of miles ahead in skills over Matt Hamill. I have nothing against Hamill, but he's just not anything more than a gatekeeper. Tough match for anyone, but not a contender by any means. Vera is a legitimate contender and a dangerous match for anyone in the division. Jones I think will beat Vera, he has all the tools to beat Vera, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Vera winning and moving on the a title fight against Shogun or the Dragon. We shall see, it's going to be an interesting ride.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Bones FTW Vera is a talented guy, he has one of the most complete skillsets in the game, good kickboxing, good wrestling, and good subs... But that is just it, he is good at everything but not great at anything. Jones on the other hand is a great striker. Unorthodox angles and obvious power in all limbs. They say he is a great wrestler too, though we haven't been able to see much of that. I see Jones as fulfilling the promise that Vera showed years ago and just has never fulfilled himself. And a Jones/Silva matcup would be awesome! I would like to see that as Silva's final fight, a passing of the torch in a few years so to speak. But I think Silva will be out of the division before Bones is in title contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Bones FTW Vera is a talented guy' date=' he has one of the most complete skillsets in the game, good kickboxing, good wrestling, and good subs... But that is just it, he is good at everything but not great at anything. Jones on the other hand is a great striker. Unorthodox angles and obvious power in all limbs. They say he is a great wrestler too, though we haven't been able to see much of that. I see Jones as fulfilling the promise that Vera showed years ago and just has never fulfilled himself. And a Jones/Silva matcup would be awesome! I would like to see that as Silva's final fight, a passing of the torch in a few years so to speak. But I think Silva will be out of the division before Bones is in title contention.[/quote'] Out of what division 205?, i know he's discussed going to heavyweight but i think that would only be one or two fights out of the 9 that his manager said he has left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 bones will be favored, the greco-roman monster will send vera packin' to sf .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach714 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think Brandon Vera got Bones Jones to early hahahaha. I think Brandon Vera is without a doubt a great fighter, but Bones Jones is the future !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think this is the point we fans of Jones have been waiting for. This should show his true progression under Jackson's guidance and you know he'll be prepared. I have Jones KO @4:27 round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 i got vera by tko. This. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think this is the point we fans of Jones have been waiting for. This should show his true progression under Jackson's guidance and you know he'll be prepared. I have Jones KO @4:27 round 1. ... 4:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 ... 4:26 Nobody is giving Vera, a man that defeated Frank Mir.... This guy is much more legit than he's given credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 ... 4:26 You make some very good points. Could go either way imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredshaulage Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Nobody is giving Vera' date=' a man that defeated Frank Mir.... This guy is much more legit than he's given credit for.[/quote'] Vera is legit, it's just Jones is legiterer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Nobody is giving Vera' date=' a man that defeated Frank Mir.... This guy is much more legit than he's given credit for.[/quote'] I respect the support you give vera, I lost pesos' on him 3 times, my wife is filipina & I live in the philippines so I'm catchin' it now .. she's cussin' me in her native tongue ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHamer Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Matt Hamill and Brandon Vera was deemed to be a legitimate match between 2 fighters ready to move into title contention. The fight didn't happen due to injury, Hamill fought Jones instead, and a DQ was the only thing that stopped Hamill suffering the worst beatdown in his career to date, so I'd say is Vera ready for Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Vera is legit' date=' it's just Jones is legiterer. [/quote'] We shall see... I wonder how many people will jump on Vera's train if he wins? We'll know if he does. Jon Jones had only fought cans in the UFC, and Vera has fought some of the best... Experience has Vera winning, and hype has Jones winning... If Jones can win, it will be very good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 [quote=fredshaulage;469002 legiterer. lmao, ... we've been freddied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGCHIEEF Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Why do people think Vera even has a possible chance of winning let alone TKO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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